Really? Even if that were the case who else would be?
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Really? Even if that were the case who else would be?
Yeah acknowledged this in a previous post. The fan told him to control the ball better and pass.
I mean Jesus if that constitutes abuse and and the mental destruction of one of our young players then we’re fecked.
Hojland and Bruno. When we switch to a 3-4-3, Bruno will occupy one of the front 3 positions, and neither Amad, nor Garnacho are playing up top.
I think rotating the 2 of them would be great. Hopefully Mount can get some minutes too.
I don't see any way back for Rashford, unfortunately
With whom though? We have two useful wingers for two wing positions. Although he's probably going to be rotated more often now with Amorim's formation.
Oh yeah, I literally said Bruno in my earlier post.
Would still have garnacho over amad but yeah everyone needs rotating.
Sorry I disagree slightly, young players can and should be criticised if it's warranted, as long as it's done in a respective and constructive manner (actually that applies to all players)Anyone criticising Garnacho (or the other young players for that matter ) at this stage of his development/career is an entitled knobhead. Simple as.
These kids need patience, understanding and support. Alejandro is a fantastic player and will only get better. To think he might have his confidence knocked, or decide to leave because of some gobby dick in the car park is heartbreaking. I hope they are proud of themselves.
Context and situation has nothing to do with it?
He's there signing stuff for fans, and that gowl is trying to be smart arse to get content by having his phone out and telling him what he needs to do better.
It's entirely different to a tweet or a post on here.
It would be stupid to write off our top goal scorer and joint G/A leader this season. If he is written off, then what to say about many others?
Brilliant posT. You could see what he was trying the last game or so. He's fecking 20. He will be world class
His goal sort of reminds me of Ashley Young against Arsenal in the 8-2.
He is a really good player for his age group, actually one of the best in that regard. He has a lot of footballing development to make. He will now get a chance under a good manager who has a good track record of development. The name calling on here is a disgrace, old men acting like school girls.
Whatever you think about his inconsistent form I still enjoyed him sticking it to that Youtube clown Faz
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"Garnacho scored a banger but didn't celebrate like he should because he thinks he has lost faith from some fans. I told him people will always moan but lots of people like you and enjoy what you do.
"I told him to celebrate, it was something special. He is a special player, we have difference makers. They are the ones who win us games. We want them to score every game but that isn't going to happen.
-Bruno
"I told him to celebrate, it was something special. He is a special player, we have difference makers. They are the ones who win us games. We want them to score every game but that isn't going to happen.
-Bruno
The criticism of the lad has been completely over the top recently. One of the few attacking players we have that constantly tries to make something happen, never hides or shirks responsibility, never gives up and has the ability to produce what he did yesterday. Yes he needs to add consistency to his game but he’s 20 years old. One of the few players we have that I wouldn’t sell for any price. He should be one of the key pieces of the team going forward.
Give me a young player like that every single time over a player like Rashford who just constantly hides and does the absolute bare minimum (if that).
Reminds me of Nani back in the day. He’d have games where nothing would come off but he’d keep going and going but then the crowd would get on his back and start groaning etc I just hope this episode hasn’t soured things and we don’t end up losing him. Himself, Yoro & Mainoo should be the bedrock of the next United team we build.
Give me a young player like that every single time over a player like Rashford who just constantly hides and does the absolute bare minimum (if that).
Reminds me of Nani back in the day. He’d have games where nothing would come off but he’d keep going and going but then the crowd would get on his back and start groaning etc I just hope this episode hasn’t soured things and we don’t end up losing him. Himself, Yoro & Mainoo should be the bedrock of the next United team we build.
I suspect lots of players look on the Caf and its pretty bad some of the moronic shit our own fans on here throw around.
When you have 100 million fans, there are surely some fans amongst them being idiots. Being a celebrity (be it pop star, sport star or politican), you must learn to copy with those idiocy.
All the posters here that kept saying that this is completely normal in football and that the 20 year old kid should do better, while vehemently defending the angry adults writing abusive messages online to him... Damn, are you all hurt because the online idiots seems to resonate with you lot?
Let's face it, we are absolutely by far the worst ever club in the world when it comes to treating our own underperforming player online. No other clubs come close, not even Real Madrid. There is a reason the most abused and joked about players in the footballing world are Antony, Maguire, Rashford, Bruno, Lingard, Jones, Pogba, Fred, McTominay, De Gea etc. Don't believe me? A quick google will show you the results, and we sent at least 7 times more abuse to our players than any other PL clubs.
Our match going fans are class and one of the best, but our online fans are also by far the most toxic and abusive in the footballing world.
Let's face it, we are absolutely by far the worst ever club in the world when it comes to treating our own underperforming player online. No other clubs come close, not even Real Madrid. There is a reason the most abused and joked about players in the footballing world are Antony, Maguire, Rashford, Bruno, Lingard, Jones, Pogba, Fred, McTominay, De Gea etc. Don't believe me? A quick google will show you the results, and we sent at least 7 times more abuse to our players than any other PL clubs.
Our match going fans are class and one of the best, but our online fans are also by far the most toxic and abusive in the footballing world.
Slightly worrying quotes from Bruno....
to reach the top you need to have to not give a feck about fan opinion
that 'fan' needs a slap
to reach the top you need to have to not give a feck about fan opinion
that 'fan' needs a slap
Cristiano Ronaldo has famously never wanted fans to like him
Players these days would crumble if they went through what Becks had to go through during that World Cup debacle.
An idiotic fan criticises him and he starts sulking. He has to learn that being criticised comes with playing for the biggest/most popular teams.
An idiotic fan criticises him and he starts sulking. He has to learn that being criticised comes with playing for the biggest/most popular teams.
Tbf there's a big difference between criticism and confronting someone with the aim of embarrassing them on social media.
One is natural amd fair, the other is sad and pathetic.
We should be getting behind the players with stuff like that because if nothing else on what planet is it ever going to be helpful?
Very good post.
While filming him. For views. It was clearly a malicious attempt. Proper knobhead.
Man, just watched the highlights and it sucks that Nacho looked so down after the goal, it was a great goal too.
He’s only 20 and at times has probably felt he’s trying to carry the club, there’s been a lot of weight from fan expectations on his shoulders for over a season.
He can be an absolute superstar but is definitely the victim of poor squad planning - there should be a top drawer experienced player and model professional ahead of him to look up too and aspire to be, CR7, Nedved, Becks, etc level
Would love to see the community setup a crowdsourced campaign “GarnachGOAL!” or whatever and get everyone signing a petition for him to celebrate again so he can see more love and less pressure.
He’s a gem and I’m sure under Amorim and the new structure will come good if the pressure and toxicity don’t wreck him
He’s only 20 and at times has probably felt he’s trying to carry the club, there’s been a lot of weight from fan expectations on his shoulders for over a season.
He can be an absolute superstar but is definitely the victim of poor squad planning - there should be a top drawer experienced player and model professional ahead of him to look up too and aspire to be, CR7, Nedved, Becks, etc level
Would love to see the community setup a crowdsourced campaign “GarnachGOAL!” or whatever and get everyone signing a petition for him to celebrate again so he can see more love and less pressure.
He’s a gem and I’m sure under Amorim and the new structure will come good if the pressure and toxicity don’t wreck him
Becks was a very special case and they way he shut people up with his form was sensational, I think pretty much any other footballer, then or now would crumble in the face of what he went through at the beginning of that 98/99 season.
Some fans have been far too hard on Garnacho. All told, he's been consistently one of our better players for 18-months and he's only just 20.
Is he perfect? Far from it...but there's not many his age performing better or more consistently in the Premier League or across Europe.
Is he perfect? Far from it...but there's not many his age performing better or more consistently in the Premier League or across Europe.
Awww, that's cute!
I wonder what his relationship is like with RVN.
I only say this because of the way RVN was with Ronnie in their playing days and maybe he sees similarities in Alejandro and possibly he is harder on him than other players.
I could be barking up the wrong tree but I found it strange how he didn't celebrate his goal today and maybe it had something to do with Ruud.
I only say this because of the way RVN was with Ronnie in their playing days and maybe he sees similarities in Alejandro and possibly he is harder on him than other players.
I could be barking up the wrong tree but I found it strange how he didn't celebrate his goal today and maybe it had something to do with Ruud.
Unfortunately it comes with the territory of being a starter so young. If he was a rotation option like most players his age then he'd get more sympathy and time to work on his game. We as a club go with the 'good enough old enough mantra' but we've lost the ability to mature players mentally.
I think Amorim is coming at the right time for his development. Hopefully he gets forced to develop his game.
Well done Garnacho, great goal and made a statement with the lack of a celebration.
Hopefully might wake a few 'fans' up that the toxicity surrounding the club doesn't assist the team at all.
Hopefully might wake a few 'fans' up that the toxicity surrounding the club doesn't assist the team at all.
Why well done? He shouldn't care, let the negative toxicity go and show his worth by playing ball.
As long as he has a football career, he will be confronted with toxicity. As soon as he shows he doesn't care that much, it'll stop or becomes much less.
His stats are great, but he's made much (dumb) errors last months. He should learn from them, learn from Casemiro, Bruno and the other seniors in the squad.
He will be a real great if he can learn from his mistakes and decision making. But at his age he'll need to work for it, he's not at that greatness already to act like a celebrity.
I have faith in him, but he needs to show the willingness to fight for his place and the badge.
Agreed, it's all I'm trying to say in multiple threads for a while now but I get so much pushback its as if fans enjoy rinsing their own players...
If anything you'd think something like this would hit home that it DOES actually have a negative impact on them.
Imagine when you're 20 some random approaching you to tell you you're crap at whatever it is you care about being good at, and then putting it on social media to effectively let people mock you.
Firstly, how is that not going to have an impact on you, regardless of how mentally strong you are? and secondly, how is that a remotely normal thing for a person to do in any context?
He will be a great player, he's got things to iron out but he's 20 and is bound to.
Anyone saying he should just brush off the criticism is being really harsh. I as a 40 year old get pissed off if even one person criticises me. As a 20 year and having thousands of people criticising me I'd have lost the plot.
He's allowed to have little sulk if he wants.
Anyone saying he should just brush off the criticism is being really harsh. I as a 40 year old get pissed off if even one person criticises me. As a 20 year and having thousands of people criticising me I'd have lost the plot.
He's allowed to have little sulk if he wants.
Add to that it's your own fans
Full kit wanker
............................ Lovely to see the joy in the kid's face. Garnacho will be fine, his mentality is that of a winner and he wears the shirt with pride.Of course, but he should get support from the club to deal with the toxicity in the social media (nowadays).
You’re debating two different things. Players getting shit online and players being confronted by youtubers/whatnot where the content is put online.