This season yes. Last season that was Rashford and the season before that it was Ronaldo.The same player that is consistently the best G/A at our club regardless of manager and season we have.
This season yes. Last season that was Rashford and the season before that it was Ronaldo.The same player that is consistently the best G/A at our club regardless of manager and season we have.
Fair enough, but he is still there as top 2/3 in our squad season in season out. Rashford goes from 30 to 10, whereas with Bruno since he has been at the club, you can rely on him to be up there every season.This season yes. Last season that was Rashford and the season before that it was Ronaldo.
Exactly. And not just top 2/3. Consistently top 1 or 2 since he signed for us.Fair enough, but he is still there as top 2/3 in our squad season in season out. Rashford goes from 30 to 10, whereas with Bruno since he has been at the club, you can rely on him to be up there every season.
But he is the one holding us back! Just because in games we play crap his passing is 79% for this season playing in a team that doesnt keep the ball well.Exactly. And not just top 2/3. Consistently top 1 or 2 since he signed for us.
No other player has managed to stay in the top 3 for even just two seasons in a row. Bruno's just finished his fourth consecutive season in the top two.
G+A (all competitions)
2023/24
1. Bruno 28
2. Hojlund 18
3. Garnacho 15
2022/23
1. Rashford 40
2. Bruno 28
3. Casemiro 13
2021/22
1. Ronaldo 27
2. Bruno 24
3. Pogba 10
2020/21
1. Bruno 45
2. Rashford 34
3. Cavani 22
I agree Bruno is a top professional; therefore I wouldn’t worry about him getting all stroppy about not getting a significant pay raise after two above-average seasons. And if by some chance he does, I’d sell him. Otherwise, this ridiculous wage-cycle will continue.Yes. If you like to throw in Bruno's consistency and Rashford's hot and cold history of professionality on the same bucket.
Oh absolutely and he is our best player by some distance.Fair enough, but he is still there as top 2/3 in our squad season in season out. Rashford goes from 30 to 10, whereas with Bruno since he has been at the club, you can rely on him to be up there every season.
See above. His only above average season was his very first full one. A season where all our attacking players filled their boots (not entirely sure why) Bruno’s three seasons since then have been extremely consistent, in terms of end product. Despite the other attacking players blowing hot and cold.I agree Bruno is a top professional; therefore I wouldn’t worry about him getting all stroppy about not getting a significant pay raise after two above-average seasons. And if by some chance he does, I’d sell him. Otherwise, this ridiculous wage-cycle will continue.
He also dominates every set piece opportunity we have and has the vast majority of play go through him. We're an unbalanced team for sure in terms of contributions across the board but his performance above is nothing like what he produces for us in terms of levels of control and balance.The same player that is consistently the best G/A at our club regardless of manager and season we have.
Yeah but how often do we score of set plays? Also lets not act as if he is a selfish penalty taker either, he gives the penalties to other players who need confidence.He also dominates every set piece opportunity we have and has the vast majority of play go through him. We're an unbalanced team for sure in terms of contributions across the board but his performance above is nothing like what he produces for us in terms of levels of control and balance.
It should be noted at well, that even in the early season when he had about 4 goals and 4 assists after 20 odd games, people were pointing to his performances against Luxembourg as some sign of world class when we could see he was miles off for us
Same as every other player with his role in every other team. Not sure what your point is here?He also dominates every set piece opportunity we have and has the vast majority of play go through him. We're an unbalanced team for sure in terms of contributions across the board but his performance above is nothing like what he produces for us in terms of levels of control and balance.
It should be noted at well, that even in the early season when he had about 4 goals and 4 assists after 20 odd games, people were pointing to his performances against Luxembourg as some sign of world class when we could see he was miles off for us
What’s your point? Shall we downplay Steven Gerrard’s career because he took every set piece in the history of Liverpool football club 2005-2015?He also dominates every set piece opportunity we have and has the vast majority of play go through him.
Wait. There also has to be a limit put in how many actions can go through Bruno. We cant have all our good actions going through him, we have to reduce that.Set pieces should be illegal. We can't have someone do something good outside of open play. I also think that goals should be removed. The real battle is over who can keep the ball for longer.
I was unable to dig up the tweet and I can't be bothered to fact check now, but apparently Bruno is the midfielder with the most goal contributions (G/A) and chances created in total in the top 5 European leagues since he joined us 4.5 years ago.
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This is a very smart suggestion and I like it a lot. It will also create jobs! Opta will have to co-operate with the manager in real time and take off players who are too involved. And failure to comply will lead to red cards! There will be a second VAR room that monitors the Opta -> manager synergy.Wait. There also has to be a limit put in how many actions can go through Bruno. We cant have all our good actions going through him, we have to reduce that.
We need to get one of those.. daily amount hit, please wait till the next game before using the CAM as the creator.
See, improving the game, taking creativity out the game, that's what its all about, being robots on the pitch now.This is a very smart suggestion and I like it a lot. It will also create jobs! Opta will have to co-operate with the manager in real time and take off players who are too involved. And failure to comply will lead to red cards! There will be a second VAR room that monitors the Opta -> manager synergy.
But are you saying his first full season wasn’t as good as his last 3? My memory is admittedly dodgy, but I remember Bruno being great in his first full season.See above. His only above average season was his very first full one. A season where all our attacking players filled their boots (not entirely sure why) Bruno’s three seasons since then have been extremely consistent, in terms of end product. Despite the other attacking players blowing hot and cold.
I remember the same thing, he was exceptional in the 1st season (or the 2nd half of 2019-2020) when first came and won mutiple awards.But are you saying his first full season wasn’t as good as his last 3? My memory is admittedly dodgy, but I remember Bruno being great in his first full season.
His first full season was better. Although that was an unusual season, where all our attackers scored loads. Since then he’s been less productive but extremely consistent. So if he does get a pay rise, it’s not because of “two above-average” seasons. His most recent two seasons have been, if anything, below average.But are you saying his first full season wasn’t as good as his last 3? My memory is admittedly dodgy, but I remember Bruno being great in his first full season.
The problem is he is a high risk player and loses the ball too many times when it's better to keep possession. He is also prone to creating many turnovers for the opposition which leaves the team vulnerable.
oh I was being diplomatic with the ‘above-average’ line - very good in ETH’s first season; underwhelming in his second (despite some fantastic goals) - basically just splitting the difference. In short, I don’t think he deserves a pay-raise.His first full season was better. Although that was an unusual season, where all our attackers scored loads. Since then he’s been less productive but extremely consistent. So if he does get a pay rise, it’s not because of “two above-average” seasons. His most recent two seasons have been, if anything, below average.
Do you really think that Portuguese people and media care about United or any foreign club in particular? as much media from any country might have an agenda pro or against certain motherland clubs, not foreign ones.Why are the Portuguese media criticising him and Dalot for Portugal’s loss yesterday. Wasn’t just down to them. Bruno usually carries that Portugal team. Why not criticise Bernardo silva or Felix. Oh because they don’t play for Man United
That is the main problem with him and the reason why he isnt in the category of the best in his position. The hard stats (assists and chance creation) don't tell the whole story.Anyone wanting to increase his salary should watch his game against Croatia today. Played in midfield and just kept giving the ball away.
Yet some of the top players and managers in the game say otherwise.That is the main problem with him and the reason why he isnt in the category of the best in his position. The hard stats (assists and chance creation) don't tell the whole story.
Anyone wanting to increase his salary should watch his game against Croatia today. Played in midfield and just kept giving the ball away.
How about the stats from the game you’re talking about? 88% pass completion and we’re being told he “kept giving the ball away”. People just see what they want to see with Bruno.That is the main problem with him and the reason why he isnt in the category of the best in his position. The hard stats (assists and chance creation) don't tell the whole story.
I'll just give you an example of this last forgettable season, he was dreadful for most of it. The main reason? Treating the ball like a hot potato. Come end of season, people look at the stats and forget everything else.Yet some of the top players and managers in the game say otherwise.
Giving away the ball is a major problem with him. I'm not basing that on this game because I did not watch it.How about the stats from the game you’re talking about? 88% pass completion and we’re being told he “kept giving the ball away”. People just see what they want to see with Bruno.
Anyone wanting to increase his salary should watch his game against Croatia today. Played in midfield and just kept giving the ball away.
Give it some time. I am sure Statman Dave will find something to post, Scandi, Romu and Pogue will make their attempts to be funny and all will be good again.Why are the Portuguese media criticising him and Dalot for Portugal’s loss yesterday. Wasn’t just down to them. Bruno usually carries that Portugal team. Why not criticise Bernardo silva or Felix. Oh because they don’t play for Man United
Since when is a misplaced pass the only way to give a ball for me? And just a gentle offering of food for thought - if people would be a little less obnoxious after good performances, maybe they also would be a little less obnoxious after a not so good one. I might be wrong though, this is a crazy place where the average time to lose all memory is about 3-4 weeks.How about the stats from the game you’re talking about? 88% pass completion and we’re being told he “kept giving the ball away”. People just see what they want to see with Bruno.
You’re so unbelievably tiresome in this thread I’m not sure why I’m engaging with you but we both know that a midfielder with 88% pass completion is not compatible with a description of his performance as “kept giving the ball away” seeing as misplaced passes are by far the most common way that possession is lost.Give it some time. I am sure Statman Dave will find something post, Scandi, Romu and Pogue will make their attempts to be funny and all will be good again.
Since when is a misplaced pass the only way to give a ball for me?
I've said it before of that user and several other Bruno haters, most of their criticism is made up.You’re so unbelievably tiresome in this thread I’m not sure why I’m engaging with you but we both know that a midfielder with 88% pass completion is not compatible with a description of his performance as “kept giving the ball away” seeing as misplaced passes are by far the most common way that possession is lost.
Not a pun, just as a side note, but Bruno lacks composure when having the ball, he has matches that he looses the ball frequently when pressured and in not few ocasions he also rushes his passes because of it.You’re so unbelievably tiresome in this thread I’m not sure why I’m engaging with you but we both know that a midfielder with 88% pass completion is not compatible with a description of his performance as “kept giving the ball away” seeing as misplaced passes are by far the most common way that possession is lost.