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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?

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Siorac said:
Remind me, why is Labour led by an ardent Leaver at this time of crisis?
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Well, you see, its like this.

There was once a man by the name of Edward Samuel Miliband. He wanted to turn the Labour party into a grassroots movement. One day, after not thinking anything through, he decided it would be rather good to let any old Tom, Dick or Harry with a spare £3 contribute to selecting party leaders.
 
Walrus said:
@Buster15 @Fingeredmouse @SqueakyWeasel
My original post was a generalisation, which I probably shouldnt have made - I apologise for that.

Of course, if you really want to get into grammar nitpicking then my original statement was:
"that it is only half of the country (probably not even that now), and mostly the old people, who are complete idiots"

Its a bit of a stretch to interpret that as meaning "all old people are complete idiots". Clearly it was referring to the demographic of the overall population that voted leave, and the fact that proportionally, older generations had a far higher Leave vote than the younger ones.
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No problems. Apology greatfully accepted my friend.
I do realise that it was a generalisation. As I have previously mentioned, emotions are running pretty high regarding Brexit and I am most concerned about the very divisive nature of this.
 
Penna said:
Yes, I've made the same comment before. My late mum-in-law was 80 when the referendum was held and she voted remain. More older people may have voted leave, but certainly not all of them!

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https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2016/06/27/how-britain-voted
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I'd love to know the thinking behind the UKIP supporters who voted remain.
 
The "parliament won't allow No Deal" crew better think again.
Conservatives have shown time and time again they will never put country before party.
 
DavidDeSchmikes said:
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Signatures from Russia, North Korea, and Saudi Arabia
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Wow 12 from Russia?! They’re making a concerted effort to meddle here. There’s no way there is 12 expats or travelling brits in Russia right now.

Huge numbers!
 
Zlatattack said:
Look at that. The old and the uneducated voted to leave. No suprise there.
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Not all of them.

I remember around the time of the result the BBC were interviewing a WWII veteran who was devastated. He essentially said he fought for what Europe is now and the UK are undoing all of that.
 
Adisa said:
The "parliament won't allow No Deal" crew better think again.
Conservatives have shown time and time again they will never put country before party.
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Do the DUP actually want a no deal, if so why? Surely it causes chaos their end?
 
LARulz said:
Do the DUP actually want a no deal, if so why? Surely it causes chaos their end?
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DUP have always wanted a no deal despite what they might have said. They are right wing fundamentalists who sit well with the ERG crowd.
 
LARulz said:
Do the DUP actually want a no deal, if so why? Surely it causes chaos their end?
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It would suit them immensely. What they say in public and what their doctrine is are two totally different things.

They wont bat an eyelid if a hard border is put up either. In public they will point the finger at someone else about it, but in reality they could care less.

A border between the UK and the Republic is utopia for them.
 
Adisa said:
The "parliament won't allow No Deal" crew better think again.
Conservatives have shown time and time again they will never put country before party.
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I don't think there's any read of the Parliamentary maths that can convincingly argue 'No Deal' would be the option that would unify Conservatives.
 
SqueakyWeasel said:
EDIT: Just re-read, sorry to hear about the passing of your MiL :(

Those figures do prove that the only other group that rated higher for a leave collective was stupid people though.
The figures do seem to support that age and education were major factors so it should not really be surprising if people make sweeeping generalisations using synonyms for "elderly" and "uneducated" (as I did above).

I'd like to see the revised figures now though, I'm feeling the older generation figure will be dramatically reduced (as they originally trusted their printed media and have now been lectured for 2 years by their offspring). However, I feel the lower end of the educated figure will be about the same IMO.
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Thanks for that kind remark. :)

So the ones we should go after are uneducated oldies? All joking aside, it would be a travesty if 16- and 17-year-olds weren't allowed a say in a second vote. It's really an issue of vital importance to teenagers.
 
Rooney24 said:
It would suit them immensely. What they say in public and what their doctrine is are two totally different things.

They wont bat an eyelid if a hard border is put up either. In public they will point the finger at someone else about it, but in reality they could care less.

A border between the UK and the Republic is utopia for them.
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They have always been against the GFA as well, probably see a no deal as a handy way to do away with it.
 
LARulz said:
Do the DUP actually want a no deal, if so why? Surely it causes chaos their end?
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The DUP don't mind no deal, sure it will cause them some problems. But it will lead to a hard border which they want despite what they may say publicly. And could possibly even result in the the GFA being torn up which they've been having wet dreams over for 20 years.

They were after all the only party that campaigned for people to vote against the Good Friday Agreement.

The DUP are Far right, Climate change denying, Young Earth believing, Homophobic, Xenophobic, Racist, Sectarian, Isolationist lunatics, (Probably Flat Earthers too). You should never expect any common sense or rational thinking from them.
 
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stevoc said:
The DUP don't mind no deal, sure it will cause them some problems. But it will lead to a hard border which they want despite what they may say publicly. And could possibly even result in the the GFA being torn up which they've been having wet dreams over for 20 years.

They were after all the only party that campaigned for people to vote against the Good Friday Agreement.

The DUP are Far right, Climate change denying, Young Earth believing, Homophobic, Xenophobic, Racist, Sectarian, Isolationist lunatics, (Probably Flat Earthers too). You should ever expect any common sense or rational thinking from them.
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And they're my only voice in Parliament at the minute. Ah well...
 
stevoc said:
The DUP don't mind no deal, sure it will cause them some problems. But it will lead to a hard border which they want despite what they may say publicly. And could possibly even result in the the GFA being torn up which they've been having wet dreams over for 20 years.

They were after all the only party that campaigned for people to vote against the Good Friday Agreement.

The DUP are Far right, Climate change denying, Young Earth believing, Homophobic, Xenophobic, Racist, Sectarian, Isolationist lunatics, (Probably Flat Earthers too). You should ever expect any common sense or rational thinking from them.
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How popular are they among Unionists?
 
mancan92 said:
Has she said how she will get round the speaker?
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If she has enough votes to pass the WA then she has enough votes to bypass the speaker's block. His power is only designed to stop bills that Parliament won't approve.
 
Penna said:
Thanks for that kind remark. :)

So the ones we should go after are uneducated oldies? All joking aside, it would be a travesty if 16- and 17-year-olds weren't allowed a say in a second vote. It's really an issue of vital importance to teenagers.
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True, was going to write a lot more but exhausted and have a trip over to London to look forward to … hostile Border Forces demanding to know how long a British passport holder will be staying in the country :confused:
 
stevoc said:
The DUP don't mind no deal, sure it will cause them some problems. But it will lead to a hard border which they want despite what they may say publicly. And could possibly even result in the the GFA being torn up which they've been having wet dreams over for 20 years.

They were after all the only party that campaigned for people to vote against the Good Friday Agreement.

The DUP are Far right, Climate change denying, Young Earth believing, Homophobic, Xenophobic, Racist, Sectarian, Isolationist lunatics, (Probably Flat Earthers too). You should ever expect any common sense or rational thinking from them.
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It would effectively be dead in my opinion in the event of a no deal.

It got me wondering though....as part of the GFA the ROI gave up articles 2 & 3, their constitutional claim to NI. I doubt it and wouldnt see it happening but I would wonder if there is an argument to insert them back into the constitution?

Probably not and it would rock the boat too much but there may be an element of people who might think if the GFA is dead we gave up that claim for nothing.
 
Buster15 said:
So..old people are complete idiots are they.
Please tell me (I am 68 by the way) am I a complete idiot because I voted to remain.

Quite frankly only a complete idiot would make such a groundless and utterly idiotic statement.
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You've come to the right place for them mate!
 
Can you sign the petition using different email addresses? Not that I've received my first confirmation
 
It's very hard to tell what's unprecedented these days but the TUC and the CBI issuing a joint letter seems like it is.

 
Adisa said:
How popular are they among Unionists?
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Well they're the biggest Unionist party and they have their loyal supporters. But i've met quite a few people over the years who only vote for them to keep Sinn Fein from gaining too much power.
 
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