Takes us 10 seconds to sign but if enough people did sign it then its provides MPs who believe in revoking Article 50 some actual ammunition. Having a 5m signed petition from the general public isn't useless. Granted, the likelihood if it changing anything is very low, but may as well try right?
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Takes us 10 seconds to sign but if enough people did sign it then its provides MPs who believe in revoking Article 50 some actual ammunition. Having a 5m signed petition from the general public isn't useless. Granted, the likelihood if it changing anything is very low, but may as well try right?
That's what this one's for … sign it!
yep same for me - no email. Wouldn't put it past them to have turned off so more people can't sign itNo wonder, look at what you have to do to confirm.
This was captured over 1 hour ago and still no e-mail.
If everyone who didn't bother to vote in the referendum signed it, we'd be in easy streets. 28% of the electorate. Mind-boggling.
Don't worry, it comes through eventually. Mine took about an hour.yep same for me - no email. Wouldn't put it past them to have turned off so more people can't sign it
The projected huge turnout for tomorrows peaceful march also might not make a difference to the members of the British parliament but it might help to focus the minds of those in Europe to the "real" feelings of the British public.
I have a very worrying feeling that there may be agitators along the way so that the likes of the Daily Mail can get a pic of retaliation for their Sunday front page but if people can't see through that scam the country's dead!
It's gonna be epic!
I have a very worrying feeling that there may be agitators along the way so that the likes of the Daily Mail can get a pic of retaliation for their Sunday front page but if people can't see through that scam the country's dead!
It's gonna be epic!
Dunno about you lads, my email came through...
Tomorrow? It's Saturday innit?
Yep. Look out for statues of Churchill covered in cat poo and silly string.
Almost 856k now. Not bad for what, 24 hours?
I do wonder if the EU appreciate that it is only half of the country (probably not even that now), and mostly the old people, who are complete idiots. The other half is quite pro-EU.
I just decided I'm starting tomorrow.
feck, just realised! This could be why Nigel Farage's march of nearly 200 people lasted about 5 kilometres
I live in Germany and the people are still quite gutted (although increasingly bemused) and seem to want it all to just end with Britain staying.
I have an ever increasing worry that the politicians have had a sniff of the financial possibilities* though and will now reject their "Better and stronger together" line for … we've been patient long enough.
*Today is their first chance to positively affect the proceeding and we shall see how they handle it – the caveat, obviously, is that the wording of May's extension letter gives them that "out" of no-deal/May's deal without having to look like they've betrayed anyone.
Unfortunately, there is nothing that the EU can do with that. It's british MPs that should appreciate it and take an actual decision.
I doubt the EU care. It is, ultimately, irrelevant (unless a 2nd ref happens, obviously).
So..old people are complete idiots are they.
Please tell me (I am 68 by the way) am I a complete idiot because I voted to remain.
Quite frankly only a complete idiot would make such a groundless and utterly idiotic statement.
68 is the new 35.
To be fair, he didn't say all old people, just the ones that voted leave
I got mine a couple of minutes ago. It was in my Junk Mail folder.No wonder, look at what you have to do to confirm.
This was captured over 1 hour ago and still no e-mail.
You're still alright for a few years yet, another 10 years, max, before you become a complete idiot.
Read his post again and you will see that there is a comma before old people.
Don't come down on him for his grammar. You know exactly what he's saying and if you voted remain then it's not you he's being ageist about
Yes, I've made the same comment before. My late mum-in-law was 80 when the referendum was held and she voted remain. More older people may have voted leave, but certainly not all of them!
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2016/06/27/how-britain-voted
What is she going to crush them with? Her trousers?
Yes. The comma separates the statements "Only half the people are idiots" and that "Most of the idiots are old people". He's demonstrably not saying all old people are idiots....just lots of them.
Which, I guess means what he's saying is that the older demographics voted leave in larger percentages. Which is objectively true. This isn't the same as saying all "old" people voted leave.
He also calls everyone who voted leave an idiot. This I would argue is not true. Some of them are just wrong, some of them are cnuts and some are idiots, wrong and cnuts.
He is, however, not calling you or any remain voter an idiot.
EDIT: Just re-read, sorry to hear about the passing of your MiLYes, I've made the same comment before. My late mum-in-law was 80 when the referendum was held and she voted remain. More older people may have voted leave, but certainly not all of them!
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2016/06/27/how-britain-voted
Those figures do prove that the only other group that rated higher for a leave collective was stupid people though.
The figures do seem to support that age and education were major factors so it should not really be surprising if people make sweeeping generalisations using synonyms for "elderly" and "uneducated" (as I did above).
I'd like to see the revised figures now though, I'm feeling the older generation figure will be dramatically reduced (as they originally trusted their printed media and have now been lectured for 2 years by their offspring). However, I feel the lower end of the educated figure will be about the same IMO.
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A petition won't make the government take action but it's certainly making opposition MPs take notice and gives them cover to attempt to force a debate on it if nothing else. This time yesterday very few people were even discussing revoking article 50 with any seriousness.
Also gives an answer to Mays claim that there's no evidence the public have changed their mind.
Who'd have thought 5 years ago during the Scottish referendum that the SNP would be practically the only united government party talking sense about remaining together
@Buster15 @Fingeredmouse @SqueakyWeasel
My original post was a generalisation, which I probably shouldnt have made - I apologise for that.
Of course, if you really want to get into grammar nitpicking then my original statement was:
"that it is only half of the country (probably not even that now), and mostly the old people, who are complete idiots"
Its a bit of a stretch to interpret that as meaning "all old people are complete idiots". Clearly it was referring to the demographic of the overall population that voted leave, and the fact that proportionally, older generations had a far higher Leave vote than the younger ones.
My original post was a generalisation, which I probably shouldnt have made - I apologise for that.
Of course, if you really want to get into grammar nitpicking then my original statement was:
"that it is only half of the country (probably not even that now), and mostly the old people, who are complete idiots"
Its a bit of a stretch to interpret that as meaning "all old people are complete idiots". Clearly it was referring to the demographic of the overall population that voted leave, and the fact that proportionally, older generations had a far higher Leave vote than the younger ones.
I was on your side!
Signatures from Russia, North Korea, and Saudi Arabia
My signature will show up as from Germany … the petition is open to ALL British citizens (wherever they are in the world)
Signatures from Russia, North Korea, and Saudi Arabia
It's the "location" parameter that you are reading
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Bloody old people cant read.
On this issue, it'd always have been so. The SNP are pro-Europe and pro-business party and the conflation between Scottish seeking independence and leaving the EU to the extent where holding a remain EU opinion alongside a pro-Scottish independence position is somehow seen as contradictory has always confused me. Both issues are a bit more nuanced than being in or out of something.Who'd have thought 5 years ago during the Scottish referendum that the SNP would be practically the only united government party talking sense about remaining together
Yes, I've made the same comment before. My late mum-in-law was 80 when the referendum was held and she voted remain. More older people may have voted leave, but certainly not all of them!
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2016/06/27/how-britain-voted
Look at that. A majority of the old and the uneducated voted to leave. No suprise there.
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Remind me, why is Labour led by an ardent Leaver at this time of crisis? They're not doing a stellar job of representing the interests of their own voters. Or at least that's how it seems to me.Yes, I've made the same comment before. My late mum-in-law was 80 when the referendum was held and she voted remain. More older people may have voted leave, but certainly not all of them!
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2016/06/27/how-britain-voted
I like it and find it somehow nice – after all the shit that was chucked at the Scots during their referendum … don't spoil it for me