Tbf, I was being highly sarcastic - a fast attacker for counter attacks? That was Rooney in 2008, not now.
10
Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 46
- Goals
- 28
- Assists
- 9
- Yellow cards
- 8
- Status
Tbf, I was being highly sarcastic - a fast attacker for counter attacks? That was Rooney in 2008, not now.
If he'd taken his chances versus Stoke and Burnley he'd be on 10 in 11.
He's played just 3 games against top 5 sides, and scored 1.... does any striker have a better record this season?
I was talking about the league in fairness as I missed the EL game.
I understood but didn't want to miss the chance to make that jokeSarcasm, mate, SARCASM!
It was worth it, I agreeI understood but didn't want to miss the chance to make that joke
In one of those games we also setup to knick a point...
I think its fair to say he hasn't been in the best form in terms of putting chances away in the last 5/6 games but all strikers go through those spells.
Thought his general play was excellent yesterday. Swansea were fecking though. I called it in the summer that I think they'll go down. Worst team at the moment.
The only good thing is at least they were fair and consistent by playing like Swansea. Maybe it's just the emotional investment, but almost every team we play against seem to make it that much harder than it would be for another team to beat them. Swans were at least fair.
The only good thing is at least they were fair and consistent by playing like Swansea. Maybe it's just the emotional investment, but almost every team we play against seem to make it that much harder than it would be for another team to beat them. Swans were at least fair.
Goals to games overall, he's doing well.
But for some reason I just find him so boring to watch throughout a whole game - even when his touches and hold up are generally good, there's just something not quite 'right' about him as a United CF for me.
His change of pace is basically non-existent. And I always think it's nice when a CF, even if not particularly fast, has a good change of pace to just give you those few moments of real, raw excitement in a game.
Ibra is more like a luxury cruise-liner. Quality no doubt, but very one paced.
I hope he does well this season and then leaves to make way for a modern CF in their prime.
But for some reason I just find him so boring to watch throughout a whole game - even when his touches and hold up are generally good, there's just something not quite 'right' about him as a United CF for me.
His change of pace is basically non-existent. And I always think it's nice when a CF, even if not particularly fast, has a good change of pace to just give you those few moments of real, raw excitement in a game.
Ibra is more like a luxury cruise-liner. Quality no doubt, but very one paced.
I hope he does well this season and then leaves to make way for a modern CF in their prime.
Its Burnley and Stoke that haunt me mate. Even if you write off the ones in the big games, we had 61 shots in those games and some of his chances were clear cut. Score those and right now we're two points off first.
I hope we don't live to regret those misses. I think if we beat Arsenal we'll get a lot of confidence and get onto a run of wins. Spurs' confidence isn't quite what it was a month or so ago. Everton have been rocked by Chelsea and will need time to recover mentally. Yes, the fixtures look hard but this is probably the best time to play all these teams. If we can get three points against them we can start putting the wins together I am sure, and make a real go at it this season.
Didn't score a good counter attack when lvg was here against them?
Yep he and Di Maria combined well for counter attacks. Counter attacks are not really about blistering pace, Park was probably not as fast as current Rooney but he always did well on the counter.
Eh?
He's done fine though he should have scored more goals. That's only highlighted when everyone else misses too. People were talking about his age but he's playing fine and he will improve i'm sure. We just need to do more in the final third. I still think we have a problem on the flanks. We can improve this team greatly and I trust Jose to manage Ibra and Rooney smartly.
Park not as fast as Rooney? Park was quick, much faster than the current Rooney and probably not far off a peak Rooney. Baffling...
One swallow, summer and all that...
Respect the honesty. Zlatan knows that, but for those misses, we'd be at least six points better off.
I don't think that's a very good way of looking at things. It's not as though Spurs, City, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool didn't miss chances too (at least some of them against us!) which resulted in them having less points than they might have if they'd converted more chances.
A hypothetical league table where fewer chances were missed could look very similar to what the league table looks like right now.
You could also argue that you can minus points for the goals he scored in previous games in too.
Sun: "Zlatan proclaims Manchester City the best."
Nobody has missed more opta classified big chances, chances you'd reasonably expect a player to score, than United though. Sky's ghost goal did an article on this.
I know we can all say coulda, woulda, shoulda. Nobody would expect Zlatan to miss that 1 v 1 against Stoke or from 3 yards against Burnley. Especially the man himself. He'll get on a bit of a run again now he's hit the back of the net. Don't expect him to have another dry patch.
We all know Ibahimovic can score bucket loads against poor opposition like Swansea, as he has done that for the last three seasons in the Championship level French League. It is against higher quality sides like Burnley & Stoke he struggles, & as for the top sides never looks like he ever will score. When he scores regularly against our direct opponents I will be more impressed.
Park was never fast, he was not slow or fast, he was just in between....tell me when you have ever seen him go past anyone with great pace
I think he has scored 4-5 goals in his last 5-6 games against City and Chelsea?
He contributed quite a lot to a lot of counter attacks because he had pretty good speed with and without the ball. His inability to dribble at speed has nothing to do with his pace. Ramirez (formerly Chelsea) was very fast in terms of top speed but was completely unable to go past anyone using dribbling at speed. Rooney didn't dribble much at speed either, but in his younger years he was good at exploiting the spaces.
That's the typical nonsense you now hear because Ibra didn't score in some games. Is there any statistic that supports your claim? Did you forget that Ibra scored against City?
It's the same old thing you hear about Özil not contributing in big games.
Ibra is like a quality second striker right now in that his general play is very good and he's extremely influential but he can be hit and miss in front of goal at times. Which is why its important we dial up the quality of our wide forwards from Lingard and co.
It's a man who has scored in 1 of his 2 El Classico's, scored in multiple Milan derbys, scored in the derby D'Italia, and has 1 goal and 1 assist in his first 2 Manchester Derbys.
But yeah, the poster @AlwaysRed66 is bang on
Source:
RECORD-SETTER
Ibrahimovic’s strike against City meant he became the first player to score in seven of Europe’s most high-profile derbies.
The seven rivalry matches Ibrahimovic has scored in:
Manchester derby: MANCHESTER UNITED vs Manchester City
El Clasico: BARCELONA vs Real Madrid
Milan derby: INTER vs AC Milan
Milan derby: AC MILAN vs Inter
Derby D’Italia: INTER vs Juventus
De Klassieker: AJAX vs Feyenoord
Le Classique: PSG vs Marseille
We all know? You know nothing - if you have followed him throughout his career you would know he has scored against pretty much every big team and national team out there.
Just some examples:
Scored multiple times against Barca.
Scored and won the el classico game against Real Madrid.
Scored vs City, Chelsea, Arsenal, even us (in a friendly though).
Scored against Spain, Italy and France in the Euros. Has also scored 4 goals in 1 game vs England, scored in the qualifications against Germany and against Portugal (2 goals) in the WC playoffs. And bare in mind he plays for SWEDEN for christ sake.
This is just some of the goals he has scored in his career, I can give you even more examples against big teams.
And yeah totally he has scored 400 goals.
Nice agenda though
Not really like I say he has a good record against them
Anyway not a Rooney thread apologies
I think he's not been anywhere near his best, but he's still averaging a 1 in 2 ratio.
"We all know". You know nothing, Jon Snow.
Let's be honest. Against Burnley some shots should have gone in, especially that flying kungfu kick.
I wouldn't even mind if he was a proper flat track bully, as that's something we've lacked with ages, and has cost us multiple times in recent seasons. Whether it's scraping or not getting results against mid to crap teams, or just racking up goals, considering that goal difference has cost us CL football and a league title in the last few years......
Why hasn't he been awarded for goal 25 000 yet like Albrighton was for 20 000?
Why hasn't he been awarded for goal 25 000 yet like Albrighton was for 20 000?
No one rewards Zlatan, he already rewarded them with the 25,000th goals of the Premier League
I came across this interview.
I thought some may like this.
I thought some may like this.
He has been a let down so often in the CL though, I think thats where his post comes from. At the absolute biggest stage, he hasnt delivered for years, one odd goal now and then but hasnt set himself on the scene as the likes of ofcourse Ronaldo, Messi but even Neymar, Suarez, Lewandowski, Bale, Robben etc have.We all know? You know nothing - if you have followed him throughout his career you would know he has scored against pretty much every big team and national team out there.
Just some examples:
Scored multiple times against Barca.
Scored and won the el classico game against Real Madrid.
Scored vs City, Chelsea, Arsenal, even us (in a friendly though).
Scored against Spain, Italy and France in the Euros. Has also scored 4 goals in 1 game vs England, scored in the qualifications against Germany and against Portugal (2 goals) in the WC playoffs. And bare in mind he plays for SWEDEN for christ sake.
This is just some of the goals he has scored in his career, I can give you even more examples against big teams.
And yeah totally he has scored 400 goals.
Nice agenda though
- Status