not United level, Welbeck>Zlatan
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I am glad that someone else shares my view on him.
I share the same view. Think his finishing will pick up.
If we drop him who have we got to come in?
I'd personally give Rooney a crack up top, it might not be a popular choice but Ibra needs to know he's not undroppable.
I'd personally give Rooney a crack up top, it might not be a popular choice but Ibra needs to know he's not undroppable.
Like you say, a flat track bully is meant to smash it against Burnley but struggle against Chelsea!
I'm still pissed at him for his ineptitude today
If we weren't playing City he would have been rested. But it's not like he even needs a rest - what he needs is a bit of luck, because he's fluffing chances that you would bet your life on him taking. A goal, and suddenly some of that conviction might start returning.
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If Zlatan thinks he's undroppable, then I don't think making him sit on the bench and watch Rooney play will have the impact your looking for.
His play overall is decent, but he's really costing us points now. His confidence is gone and he should be dropped, but for who? Once Martial gets fit, he should get a run upfront alongside Rashford, who isn't doing well himself. We need a new striker
I don't think he needs to be dropped, but he should have been taken off instead of Mata imo, who was playing excellently before being hauled off. He shouldn't be playing every minute of every single game. Zlatan is class and will be back scoring heaps of goals soon.
He has cost us quite a lot of points already with his poor finishing. Infuriating.
Did you watch Rooney today? He's finished.
What a depressing thought. 3 PL goals before Xmas last year I think, before LVG finally grew a pair. Couldn't even hit the target with the last chance of the game today.
The only crumb of comfort is at least Ibrahimovic is there to miss the sitters he has by clever movement or his physicality.
Rooney has none of those traits anymore plus has little pace. If Ibrahimovic needs to be rested or dropped I'd rather have Rashford or Martial starting ahead of Rooney.
Never been a fan of him.
His presence seems to make everyone just lump the ball to him or play cross after cross. His presence also is causing us to play both Martial and Rashford out of position.
His presence seems to make everyone just lump the ball to him or play cross after cross. His presence also is causing us to play both Martial and Rashford out of position.
What a crock.
If Zlatan is to be rested, Martial and Rashford should be the options, absolutely not a player who's been awful for as long as anyone can remember.
Nonsense.
Did you watch today's game and the number of one-twos Ibra played with Pogba and Mata?
I still back him and think he is very good
Agreed. That last chance he had from the Pogba cross, he was finishing those kind of chances at PSG all the time so that has nothing to do with the league. Right now, his finishing form is just terrible and he's low on confidence. Zlatan was mostly very good today, his finishing aside. I know a lot of United fans are furious at him today, and perhaps justifiably so, he did lose us points today. But his build up play today was a big reason for how we created so many chances today. Which is why I believe that he shouldn't be dropped right now, because he's doing good things even though he's in terrible goal scoring form. I also believe that Mourinho has to do a better job of managing his minutes. At his age, Zlatan shouldn't be playing as many games as he has been. I think playing with tired legs has also been a factor.
Nobody else has been given a chance up front. So when you say we play our best stuff with him I'm not sure what other football you're comparing it to. You could be right but I think it's time we gave a different type of player a game here or there. Just to see.
His performance was solid but unfortunately he continues to blow our best chances and ultimately that's what we need the most right now. If it's just one game, one can look past it but it has become somewhat of a trend, so perhaps looking for an alternative up front isn't such a bad idea.
That just isn't true. Look at the evidence for yourself. It is horrible finishing that is stopping him. The first gif against Burnley today isn't even a great save, his finish gave the keeper the only possible chance of saving it. You either chip in the position or go round the keeper.
Terrible might be stretching it, but he was winning games on his own that season, and I distinctly remember being very disappointed by his performance after the first leg, and thinking that the legacy of his magnificent impact that season would be greatly reduced if he wasn't able to turn it on in the home game. He didn't, but most of us still remember his contributions that season very fondly, but I honestly believe he would've become a Cantona-esque icon if he had managed to maintain his top form and tipped that game in our favour.
@NinjaFletch also mentioned the FA Cup, but I can't really remember the specifics of that.
He's an issue for sure, just not the sort of main striker I want us to have, a sub yes but not the number one.. please let Martial have a shot at it Jose.
Once again missed a couple of sitters. It's becoming embarrassing to be fair.
Beyond his form I really hate his lack of top end effort. But we knew that already I guess.
Cost us another 3 points with his poor finishing. You can't say he doesn't receive the chances, he had a lot of chances this season! I wish we can change the formation to 442 and makes him as our 2nd striker or just drop him and let Rashford be no9. I can't believe there was a debate somewhere about who's better Zlatan or Aguero.
One thing that made me so frustrated in general was that when we broke their attacks and counterattacked them for a few times, rash got the ball and only he and jesse were busting a gut to run up against like 6 defenders. Zlatan was nowhere near to be seen on the screen for a few secs. So eventually rash had to stop and pass back. Or when the ball came in to the box, no one was there to meet up. etc.
It sums up with the way we want to play and the way zlatan can't. We are not exactly a great team at breaking down the bus parking teams as we can see atm. But then again we can't use speed properly for counter attacks either.
People keep mentioning about rash not scoring for awhile. Well, how can he when he has to dribble like 5 defenders to have a shot from the wide area. I think his finishing at times is better than zlatan's atm. He should be leading the front line after 60 mins in this kind of game. Not running alone down to the channel having to take on like 3 defenders the whole game when your main striker can't be relied on to score.
It sums up with the way we want to play and the way zlatan can't. We are not exactly a great team at breaking down the bus parking teams as we can see atm. But then again we can't use speed properly for counter attacks either.
People keep mentioning about rash not scoring for awhile. Well, how can he when he has to dribble like 5 defenders to have a shot from the wide area. I think his finishing at times is better than zlatan's atm. He should be leading the front line after 60 mins in this kind of game. Not running alone down to the channel having to take on like 3 defenders the whole game when your main striker can't be relied on to score.
absolutely disgusted with him today. not talking about the missed chances. he's dishonest. I can take anyone not having a good game or a few bad ones. But watching him closely today was infuriating. I know he is not there to defend but one instance in the second half made me want to see him gone from the club. as our players lined up on our own area defending a free kick that was about to be launched Zlatan stood in the centre of the line of defenders with his arms stretched indicating a line to defend. in comes the kick. ALL of our players went with their men and put in the effort to get where they had to be. Zlatan didn't budge. simply turned and watched his teammates doing their jobs. ball goes dead and off he saunters to the centre circle. there was a fella pretending to defend. pretending to put in the effort. feck all his missed chances. seeing the big lump faking the effort like that was sickening. get him out. and soon
The worst finisher up front in the last 10 years, just horrendous. Welbeck is more clinical than he is, has cost us at least 6 points easily, it's going to matter back there in May.
Drop him and put Rashford up front.
when we signed him, everyone was saying he won't and can't play every game....... we just played him for 270 mins in a week...... who the hell does that with a 35 year old striker?
The part that summed him up for me today was around the 60th min or so. They had a player injured while we waited for a throw in. Once play resumed who did we throw it to.....Zlatan. A backwards throw about 30yrds from goal. Why oh why was he receiving the ball when he should be the focal point of our attack
IMO Rashford is a comfortably better finisher at the moment. When I looked at those gifs he (Zlatan) seemed a bit too casual in his attempts.
Seems fairly obvious that these chances are going to start hitting the back of the net soon.
Did he exchange shirts with the Burnley players?
Agreed, that's just bad minutes management from Mourinho. I had assumed that when we signed Zlatan that we wouldn't play him so many minutes, but Mourinho wants to play him nearly every game and the whole 90 every time.
When I see comments like this, I wonder if some on here watched Ibra before his move.
This.
The more foolish thing to do would be to assess a player's physical capability based on his age. The guy is more of a specimen now then most of our team either were or will be at their peak. I've not seen any signs him of fatiguing sharply.
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