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As I've said, Zlatan's essentially been brought in to fulfill an RVP-type role: score an impressive number of goals over one or two seasons. Players hit bad form, yeah, but he's not really delivered since the start of the season and it's starting to get the point where this is sustained bad form...which isn't good enough for a player who's going to be here for a relatively small period of time. We can put it down to bad form, sure, but if he doesn't turn it around soon then it's just not good enough, irrespective of whether it's bad form or not.

RVP went 10 consecutive games that season without scoring and missing sitters.
 
I don't have any numbers but I highly doubt it was this bad before in France/Spain/Italy.

26 in 92 at Juventus, and we're talking of a team that was a powerhouse at that time. 15 in 36 his first year at Inter (Julio Cruz had a better mark the season before that).

Probably he wasted his best years playing for a poor AC Milan and those numbers (56 in 85, good but nothing special) have helped him to leave people with the impression that he was a better goalscorer than he really was.
 
26 in 92 at Juventus, and we're talking of a team that was a powerhouse at that time. 15 in 36 his first year at Inter (Julio Cruz had a better mark the season before that).

Probably he wasted his best years playing for a poor AC Milan and those numbers (56 in 85, good but nothing special) have helped him to leave people with the impression that he was a better goalscorer than he really was.
Lots of penalties in his time at AC Milan if I'm nit mistaken too?
 
RVP went 10 consecutive games that season without scoring and missing sitters.

True...but he did it towards the latter stages of the season when the title was mostly wrapped up. Overall he still had a fantastic season goals wise. Hopefully Zlatan can too, of course, but he really needs to improve, and soon.
 
:lol: everyone want to try and re write history now
 
True...but he did it towards the latter stages of the season when the title was mostly wrapped up. Overall he still had a fantastic season goals wise. Hopefully Zlatan can too, of course, but he really needs to improve, and soon.

Yes thats my point in that sometimes a striker can be in bad form infront of goal. It can happen. I'm sure once he gets 1 he will get plenty because he is mainly playing well overall. I do think Mou is over playing him though
 
:lol: everyone want to try and re write history now

Not sure what you mean but history shows that Zlatan was a big success in Italy and France, i.e. in non-top-3 leaguse in Europe. The period at Barca wasn't exactly successful. And he was younger then.

Wasn't he supposed to help out vs small teams? His misses vs Stoke and Burnley cost us 4 points.
 
Not sure what you mean but history shows that Zlatan was a big success in Italy and France, i.e. in non-top-3 leaguse in Europe. The period at Barca wasn't exactly successful. And he was younger then.

Wasn't he supposed to help out vs small teams? His misses vs Stoke and Burnley cost us 4 points.

Read the post 2 up from mine. He in poor form, but people saying his earlier career made him look like a better goal scorer than he really was is just silly.
Also his goal scoring record at Barca was pretty good tbf to him
 
RVP went 10 consecutive games that season without scoring and missing sitters.
If he had maintained his form, I'm almost certain we would have reached another Champions League final. He was terrible in both games against Madrid (and missed an absolute sitter away, if I remember correctly), and we still almost went through :(
 
I can understand as a striker taking the shot a lot of times but sometimes he should square the ball. His acrobatic attempt had the keeper and a few others on the line and yet Mata was wide open as they all expected the shot. The chance at the end as well, Fellaini was open for a tap in.
 
Let's be honest - we should be on top of the table if Ibra takes 20% of the chances he gets. I don't think he's old or unfit for this league.

He actually gets the chances - which means he's at the right place at the right time. His only problem is his execution and his apparent predictability in front of goal.
 
If he had maintained his form, I'm almost certain we would have reached another Champions League final. He was terrible in both games against Madrid (and missed an absolute sitter away, if I remember correctly), and we still almost went through :(

And Chelsea in the FA Cup I think too.
 
He doesn't struggle with the PL at all. This is 100% down to him not being able to convert the 2-3 chances he gets per game.

It's both good news and bad news, imo. It's way more worrying when strikers never seem to be at the end of good chances.
 
Holy feck, I knew he missed some sitters but look at those gifs, I'm shocked.
 
As I've said, Zlatan's essentially been brought in to fulfill an RVP-type role: score an impressive number of goals over one or two seasons. Players hit bad form, yeah, but he's not really delivered since the start of the season and it's starting to get the point where this is sustained bad form...which isn't good enough for a player who's going to be here for a relatively small period of time. We can put it down to bad form, sure, but if he doesn't turn it around soon then it's just not good enough, irrespective of whether it's bad form or not.

It's not quite an RVP situation in that he was not destined for our main title rivals if we didn't sign him (which probably tells us something in itself). However, I take your point that this was a short-term impact buy which isn't providing that impact and therefore is looking increasingly pointless.
 
I can understand as a striker taking the shot a lot of times but sometimes he should square the ball. His acrobatic attempt had the keeper and a few others on the line and yet Mata was wide open as they all expected the shot. The chance at the end as well, Fellaini was open for a tap in.

That's the predictability I was just talking about. He was waiting for the ball for few seconds before attempting the acrobatic shot.

Every Burnley player knew what he was about to do.....A smart player should have just squared it to an open player to cause some confusion in the Burnley defence.

Ibra is too predictable. Even the match officials can second-guess what's he about to do. He needs to step it up big time. He has missed the most clear-cut chances in the league according to OPTA.
 
That's the predictability I was just talking about. He was waiting for the ball for few seconds before attempting the acrobatic shot.

Every Burnley player knew what he was about to do.....A smart player should have just squared it to an open player to cause some confusion in the Burnley defence.

Ibra is too predictable. Even the match officials can second-guess what's he about to do. He needs to step it up big time. He has missed the most clear-cut chances in the league according to OPTA.

Thats total BS tbh. He was poor infront of goal today but predictable isn't something you should label at him. Some of the link up play etc was far from predictable.
Also I don't think the square ball is really on there just bury it, he was unlucky with that particular chance
 
Read the post 2 up from mine. He in poor form, but people saying his earlier career made him look like a better goal scorer than he really was is just silly.
Also his goal scoring record at Barca was pretty good tbf to him

Pedro scored more goals than Zlatan that year playing 300 minutes less, you know Pedro, that guy playing for Chelsea?

02/03: Kezman, van Hoijdonk, Kuyt, Buffel, Van der Vaart, Hoogendorp and Amoah scored more than Ibra in the Eredivisie
03/04: Kezman, Kuyt, Sibon, Buffel, El Khattabi, Kufo
04/05: Lucarelli, Gilardino, Montella, Luca Toni, Vucinic
05/06: Not even worth mentioning, 7 goals in 35 league games, not even top 10
06/07: Totti, Lucarelli, Riganó, Bianchi, Amoruso, Spinesi, Mutu, Rocchi, Luca Toni
07/08: Del Piero (34 y/o), Trezeguet, Borriello
08/09: Yay, he did it, top goalscorer
09/10: Messi, Higuain, Ronaldo, Villa, Forlan, Soldado scored the same amount of goals
10/11: Di Natale, Cavani, Eto'o, Matri, Di Vaio, Pazzini, Totti
11/12: Yeah, he banged 28, his best season

You see that list of players that outscored Ibra in a lapse of 10 years? I wouldn't dare to say he could be known as a prolific striker for most of his career, and obviusly not until his last year at Inter. His record was heavily criticized when he played for Juve
 
RVP went 10 consecutive games that season without scoring and missing sitters.
It happens to forwards. It's a bit like writer's block. Zlatan's overall game wasn't poor, not great either. He always manages to create a chance at least for other players. Rashford hasn't exactly been making the most of his chances in the past games either.

I'm not worried, just a bit disappointed. We've been unlucky to lose as many points as we have this season.
 
The worst thing is he isn't even the flat track bully I thought he would be. I had my issues with this signing, but I thought he'd score against minnows.
 
This is a load of crap tbh. He is getting the chances, level of league doesn't affect your ability to finish from 3/4 yards. He is just simply out of form in terms of finishing right now. He doens't look like he is struggling with the level IMO

Absolutely spot on!

The level of the league should mean how hard it is to get a scoring chance, not how hard it is to score. He's missed probably 10 total sitters since the start of the season. He was doing it even in the beginning but since he was scoring then it was not that. We lost/drew games purely becuase he is currently sub par.

The issue is that Rooney is quite sh.t, Martial is injured and Mkhitaryan for some reason is not even on the bench so Rashford is stuck on the left/right instead of being the main striker.
 
26 in 92 at Juventus, and we're talking of a team that was a powerhouse at that time. 15 in 36 his first year at Inter (Julio Cruz had a better mark the season before that).

Probably he wasted his best years playing for a poor AC Milan and those numbers (56 in 85, good but nothing special) have helped him to leave people with the impression that he was a better goalscorer than he really was.
I wasn't talking about the goals scored obviously but more about the number lf chances it'd take him to score goals.
 
This is a classic example of a goal draught. It happens with almost any striker during their careers, where just nothing goes his way.

Of course he deserves the criticism, but he is such a creative force. I think he actually played worse at the beginning, but he hit the back of the net more.

Dropping him needs careful consideration. I seriously doubt we will become a better team. Him dropping deep gives us three players, Mata and Pogba, that roams around in front of the defence. It looks like we are playing against junior teams at times, they way they are capable of slicing through an established defence. Just a simple 1-2 and 6 defenders are out of play, its incredible to watch.
 
Quite the performance. Aside from less than clinical finishing, this was the exact performance we were missing against the weaker teams last year. Right now the only thing preventing Zlatan looking unstoppable is himself and some inspired goalkeeping. Unfortunately, our flat-track bully is currently missing with all his punches right now. If he continues in the manner he is, he'll finish as one of top scorers in the league with 20+ goals. Dropping him would be utterly asinine; variance may mean we suddenly score a flurry and look better short term, but there's no doubt we are playing our best stuff with him on the pitch and being highly involved.

Worth pondering that there were another 24 attempts from players other than Zlatan that weren't converted either. He's not the only one fluffing his lines, which only adds to the pressure.
 
Rather have a striker creating and getting chances than nothing at all like last season. Luck will turn.
 
Rashford wouldn't be missing half of those chances. He needs to step the feck up.
 
I'm not sure he needs dropping, but perhaps take him off if it's not working.
 
Look at how Firmino finished just now. Ibra should have looked to lift it over Heaton too.
 
The worst thing is he isn't even the flat track bully I thought he would be. I had my issues with this signing, but I thought he'd score against minnows.

This. I thought Ibra would fill his boots against England's lesser lights.

Look at how Firmino finished just now. Ibra should have looked to lift it over Heaton too.

Damn right. For any world class striker that is a bread and butter finish. Zlatan's missing the type of chances a player of his calibre must bury.
 
Needs a break. Should have had it in the Carling Cup in the week. Im assuming he doesnt pick the team which means it's Mourinho not giving him the breather. However what are the alternatives? Rooney, no thanks, Rashford, maybe, Martial injured
 
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