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2016-17 Performances


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46
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28
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9
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He is a machine, there is no other way to explain his physical attributes. I was amazed by his output in this match, worked all over the pitch, and scored two massive goals. What a player! And I thought he would struggle because of his age!
 
I think that in the future when we look back on the immediate post-Fergie era, we'll all rightly look back on Zlatan in a very similar way to how we see Cantona today. Not quite to the same level, Zlatan won't be around for more than probably two seasons with us, but he's the kind of character that you can already see is having the same confidence-inspiring effect on the rest of the club.

To the game of football overall, with the career he's had, he's a legend overall. He may not end up being an all-time legend for Manchester United specifically, but he can be (and certainly is being, so far) a one season legend for us.
 
Convinced he'll hit between 35-40 this year. Unbelievable player.

Best individual season a player has had at club since RvPs first, and Rooney in I think it was 09/10 where he rattled goals in till he got injured against Bayern?
 
Convinced he'll hit between 35-40 this year. Unbelievable player.

Best individual season a player has had at club since RvPs first, and Rooney in I think it was 09/10 where he rattled goals in till he got injured against Bayern?

It's hard to compare this season with Rooneys in 09/10, on one hand Zlatan is doing it at 35 in the PL for the very first time but on the other Rooney stepped out of the shadow of Ronaldo and Tevez and had it not been for injury who knows where he may of took us that year.... Ultimately both seasons resulted in no league title
 
It's hard to compare this season with Rooneys in 09/10, on one hand Zlatan is doing it at 35 in the PL for the very first time but on the other Rooney stepped out of the shadow of Ronaldo and Tevez and had it not been for injury who knows where he may of took us that year.... Ultimately both seasons resulted in no league title

I mean more in the way they carry the side. We looked at Rooney then to do something and win us the game, similar to how we do with Zlatan.
 
Hes on 26 goals coming to the end of February. 16 games guaranteed left. Potentially another 7 (depending on progress in other trophies).
6 goals to beat RVPs season tally if im right.

Its a great record so far and he should get close to 35 imo.
 
I hope he can bang them in a bit more in the league. He still has a good record, but hopefully he can add more gloss to it.

Whether it's a year or two years, what a great move it's turned out to be.
 
Beside all the obvious, he's our best defender of the night. Win everything when come back for his defensive duty. Our defending unit was battered. Arguably his most complete (may not be the best) performance of him up till today for us.
 
It's hard to compare this season with Rooneys in 09/10, on one hand Zlatan is doing it at 35 in the PL for the very first time but on the other Rooney stepped out of the shadow of Ronaldo and Tevez and had it not been for injury who knows where he may of took us that year.... Ultimately both seasons resulted in no league title

Surely you mean Rooney was just in Ronaldo's shadow?
 
Makes me laugh that people doubted him. The guy is one of the best strikers ever. You don't score 50 goals last season just because it's a shite league (which it isn't really). He's just a brilliant player.
 
Looking at that last thread. Credit to @Successful who lives up to his name

I think it could be a really good idea. You're looking at a player who will probably have 2 more years left at top level and has proved himself on every possible level. He's a natural winner and is willing to work his ass off to win the CL. It's very usual in the NHL (ice hockey) that teams trade some dinosaur to their team just to get that extra piece of leadership and will to win (if the player is without medals in his career). As someone already pointed out, Ibra is a really good team player. Yes, he will demand a lot of attention in a squad, and that's because he's a special player. It's nothing unusual and almost all stars like Messi, Rooney, Vieri behave the same way. It's the guys who don't deliver that I have a problem with.

Most of his problems are related to contracts. Ibra and the people around him have always tried to find creative ways to get out of a contract. The thing in France could be a way of saying goodbye again. I believe the Milan-PSG deal was worth around £24m, so today it couldn't be much more than £20m to bring him in. It's the wages that huge, but we are a big club and will always pay huge wages. Having 3-4 players among the 20 best paid in the world should be nothing out of the ordinary. As Falcao is leaving there should be plenty of room to take in a new star. RVP might question his future as well.

And PLEASE, footballers are not something you always have to invest in with a 10 years horizon. It's FINE to bring in a player for 2 years!! fecking hell, 2 years is a life time in football and I rather have someone with huge potential to win us stuff than invest in another Bellion, Hernandez, Nani, Anderson etc. Just for an example of how many players were with us and played games 2 years ago!!!!

Evra, Rio, Anderson, Giggs, Hernandez, Vidic, Welbeck, Fabio, Cleverley, Fletcher, Kagawa, Macheda, Buttner, Zaha, Powell, Bebe.

So things can change rather quick.
 
Ronaldo's 42 could be in danger.
He could fill his boots with our remaining home games.
 
What claim does Zlatan have in the GOAT discussion, by the way?

It's all been Messi vs. Ronaldo, but when you come to think about it, do you really see Messi doing it in 8 different teams? Messi has basically been playing his whole career in a Barca team that was suited and tailored around him. Zlatan has played in 8 different clubs in 6 different countries and has been a success and won silverware in every club he has been to.
 
What claim does Zlatan have in the GOAT discussion, by the way?

It's all been Messi vs. Ronaldo, but when you come to think about it, do you really see Messi doing it in 8 different teams? Messi has basically been playing his whole career in a Barca team that was suited and tailored around him. Zlatan has played in 8 different clubs in 6 different countries and has been a success and won silverware in every club he has been to.

Let's not go overboard now haha. He has no argument for that even though he's a fantastic player and his longevity is incredible. He is one of the greatest strikers ever though. Potentially a tier below the very best.

In terms of best players in the past decade or so, I'd only have Messi, Ronaldo, Xavi and Iniesta ahead of him. Would pick him ahead of Robben, but understand the arguments for Robben too.

His ability to adapt to different teams(Barcelona being an exception) and different cultures/managers is truly special.
 
What claim does Zlatan have in the GOAT discussion, by the way?

It's all been Messi vs. Ronaldo, but when you come to think about it, do you really see Messi doing it in 8 different teams? Messi has basically been playing his whole career in a Barca team that was suited and tailored around him. Zlatan has played in 8 different clubs in 6 different countries and has been a success and won silverware in every club he has been to.

Unfortunately he is not in the debate. He has played in an era with several great players and he is a long way down from the likes of Messi or Ronaldo. He is a legend of the game though, and his spell here only enhances that for proving his doubters wrong. He is a player who if you take the big two out of the equation would probably have won a ballon d'or once.
 
Feels like my son has convinced the doubters/haters now. Never in doubt that he is the best striker around.
 
His ability to adapt to different teams(Barcelona being an exception) and different cultures/managers is truly special.
How could/can anyone expect that Ibra, with his physique, would suit Barcelona's style of play? He was a giant compared to those players with double the weight - how on earth would he be able to run the way the other players did? Besides, he managed to adapt (like he's done everywhere), it was the club (manager?) who couldn't adapt to Ibra. Because you could see that Ibra played with a lot of heart in the beginning and running until he basically collapsed (which led to him vomiting on the pitch a couple of times), despite him both not being used that style of play and him not being suited for that, because of his physical appearance.

Anyway - great to see that he was the MOTM, he deserved it. Nice to see that he works well with all of the players, both on and off the pitch. Looks like Bailly is starting to be a close friend. I'm just glad that he has finally been able to prove to many doubters that he really is this good and that he despite his age can still offer a lot to this team. You should think of what he could have done 5-8 years ago in the PL - because he's this good despite having "declined" a bit (not much, but a bit).

Off-topic: One thing I really liked about this match was that, the team, despite playing really bad, managed to win. Which is a sign of being a strong team. Let's focus on Bournemouth now - if the players won't be too tired, then I'm expecting an easy win, since the opponent has lost form...
 
Unfortunately he is not in the debate. He has played in an era with several great players and he is a long way down from the likes of Messi or Ronaldo. He is a legend of the game though, and his spell here only enhances that for proving his doubters wrong. He is a player who if you take the big two out of the equation would probably have won a ballon d'or once.
Agree about this. But one can wonder if he would have been discussed about this if he had played for i.e. Real Madrid. Would most likely be able to score like he did for PSG and by doing so he could be a contender. The only big thing against him is national team, which is a "handicap" for him.
 
What claim does Zlatan have in the GOAT discussion, by the way?
For Ibra, it's the same as when GK's, CB's, DM's aren't mentioned. It's just the players that score a whole lot of goals and win the titles that are chosen.

Ibra is a "complete" and unique striker, much due to his physique. He has also the ability to score Beautiful goals and he can also adapt to any team/league/country. But these things aren't rated. Just like all the other great things he does.

But I'm sure that Ibra will get a lot more appreciation 5-10 years after retiring. Then people will understand what kind of a player he really is. I'm just glad that he finally chose to play in the PL and for Manchester United - a bit late, but still great.
 
How could/can anyone expect that Ibra, with his physique, would suit Barcelona's style of play? He was a giant compared to those players with double the weight - how on earth would he be able to run the way the other players did? Besides, he managed to adapt (like he's done everywhere), it was the club (manager?) who couldn't adapt to Ibra. Because you could see that Ibra played with a lot of heart in the beginning and running until he basically collapsed (which led to him vomiting on the pitch a couple of times), despite him both not being used that style of play and him not being suited for that, because of his physical appearance.

Anyway - great to see that he was the MOTM, he deserved it. Nice to see that he works well with all of the players, both on and off the pitch. Looks like Bailly is starting to be a close friend. I'm just glad that he has finally been able to prove to many doubters that he really is this good and that he despite his age can still offer a lot to this team. You should think of what he could have done 5-8 years ago in the PL - because he's this good despite having "declined" a bit (not much, but a bit).

Off-topic: One thing I really liked about this match was that, the team, despite playing really bad, managed to win. Which is a sign of being a strong team. Let's focus on Bournemouth now - if the players won't be too tired, then I'm expecting an easy win, since the opponent has lost form...

I wasn't implying that he was a huge failure at Barcelona. He got off a very good start there. Scored in his 1st 5-6 league games. Broke/tied a record if I recall.

Then Pep altered the system, because Messi wanted to play more centrally. But he scored vital goals. The winner in the Clasico.

It was a bad transfer all-around though. Both parties at fault IMO.
 
Why's he not signed his extension yet? Bit strange. You'd think he'd be delighted at the way things are going. And I don't think it could be down to negotiations as this is a extension option that has already been agreed upon. Part of me is worried he might decide it's the perfect time to leave if we end the season with another trophy.
 
Some papers reported he is stalling on a new deal with us because he wants Champions League football next season, we can't seriously miss out now we are four points off second can we?
 
Why's he not signed his extension yet? Bit strange. You'd think he'd be delighted at the way things are going. And I don't think it could be down to negotiations as this is a extension option that has already been agreed upon. Part of me is worried he might decide it's the perfect time to leave if we end the season with another trophy.
If we don't have a proven goalscorer next season, we'll again find ourselves fighting for 4th place in the league
 
People saying he hasn't signed an extension, wasn't his initial deal a 1+1? so we had the decision. IF we want him to stay it will automatically turn into a 2 year contract. Mourinho has already stated he wants him to stay.
 
He hasn't half made a lot of people - including me - eat crow has he? Just the kind of signing that was needed to bring back the aura of old to the club again.
 
Do you guys remember that Zlatan beat records during his physical?

Nothing much was said about it but a swedish newspaper did some digging before the match yesterday.

Apparently Zlatan asked what the record for the first test was - then beat it. The next test he asked again what the record was - then beat it, and so on...

Brast.
 
Absolutely magnificent effort, both goals absolutely top quality despite maybe not being near his best on the night. He never gave in, kept goign and spent it all on the pitch and that is worth everything, no matter how good or bad. I was going mental before his second goal yelling for him to get in the box. Tired legs, didn't pick him up - presto. Perfect goal to cap off the night, he needs to pull that little ghost-in move more often and he will score every time.
 
Why's he not signed his extension yet? Bit strange. You'd think he'd be delighted at the way things are going. And I don't think it could be down to negotiations as this is a extension option that has already been agreed upon. Part of me is worried he might decide it's the perfect time to leave if we end the season with another trophy.
I'd think a couple of reasons: the mental part of it is important, if he doesn't feel the hunger than he'll probably not want to stay (not fair on him or the club), the club doesn't invest in players (the right players) and therefore be difficult to win the PL-title or he could also be waiting to see how he feels physically, since he's been taking a lot of beating since the start of the season from all of the defenders (last night for instance, Yoshida constantly with his elbows on Ibra's back)...

Mourinho:
"I never beg for a player to sign a contract, I never beg for a player to play for me.

"If needed, I think United fans can go to the door of his house, and stay there all night.

"If needed I think they will go for sure.

"We all want, we all believe he is going to stay with us for one more season."
 
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Why's he not signed his extension yet? Bit strange. You'd think he'd be delighted at the way things are going. And I don't think it could be down to negotiations as this is a extension option that has already been agreed upon. Part of me is worried he might decide it's the perfect time to leave if we end the season with another trophy.

Wants Top 4, understandably.

He wants 2 more cracks at the CL, and if I was him (and was that good), I'd want the same.
 
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