literally every city defender made their actions towards Rashford, not Bruno.
Even Ederson had the positioning to save a shot from Rashford.
that's the most active offside ever.
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literally every city defender made their actions towards Rashford, not Bruno.
Even Ederson had the positioning to save a shot from Rashford.
that's the most active offside ever.
Absolutely gifted us a goal. Flawless otherwise
They will protest it 100%.
Hes not shielding the ball at all. It’s not even close
Don't think there's anything to protest. It was the wrong decision, but Rashford being active and interfering with play is a subjective call of the ref
He even pretend kicked it ffs...
Rashford can’t control others actions nor govern the City players ignorance of the offside rule
Thought the ref was pretty good bar the offside and thats completely on VAR. All they have to say is Rashford clearly shaped to shoot the ball right before Bruno and its as clear an offside as you'll ever see.
Did he touch it? If he doesn’t touch the ball or stop others getting the ball then he isn’t offside
He's clearly running towards the tunnel, he didn't even know a game was on at the same time.
I am not complaining of course but I just don't understand how VAR works. How was that not ruled out?
The ref was brilliant, that one feck up aside
if it's possible for a ref to be found criminally incompetent this would be it.
You don't have to touch the ball to be interfering with play ffs... Rashford ran on to it, shaped to shoot and then left it, its 100% clear. It is what it is, you guys got a big decision go your way. Doing mental gymnastic against even other United fans to defend it is silly. Enjoy the win but admit that was offside, its not a big deal.
If a defender has to react to the actions of an offside player, it's offside. We've been massively lucky here
By the rule : it's a clear offside.
By PL standards : not so sure, we've seen this situation in others games and some goals were allowed so even if it's wrong, it's not inconsistent, which is probably the most important.
That being said, it's an absurd interpretation from PL refs, the rule was clearly designed to prevent what happened today.
By PL standards : not so sure, we've seen this situation in others games and some goals were allowed so even if it's wrong, it's not inconsistent, which is probably the most important.
That being said, it's an absurd interpretation from PL refs, the rule was clearly designed to prevent what happened today.
Shocked at Oliver not trying to do us over!
Did they have to react, though? They still had to chase the ball and he didn't interfere with Ederson's vision. I'm conflicted but understand why City feel aggrieved.
As much as I love this, ref got that wrong. Offside. There is no discussion. But we have been in same spot as City so I'll take it.
It was checked by var, if it was offside it would have been ruled out.. don’t understand why everyone seems so confused by that.
Let’s be honest, if that isn’t offside you have to throw the rule book in the trash. Still feels nice when you’re on the right end of it, though, so I’ll take it!
It's either a woeful rule or a woeful decision. That needs to be considered offside.
But, as we have seen, that’s not true. That’s not in the rules.
it should be in the rules but it’s not. Plus the defenders aren’t getting there anyway. If anything the defenders on Rashford side are rushing to get to the ball quicker because they’re chasing Rashford.
The only excuse that can be made is if Rashford somehow stops the City defenders from getting to the ball, he clearly doesn’t. Even the defenders on Bruno’s side are rushing to the ball quicker to close Marcus down. It can be argued the offside helped them
Obviously glad we were given the goal but how that wasn’t offside is beyond me. Rashford clearly influences the City defence with his actions
Hope Rashford gets the assist for that!
So Haaland can stand in the box in an offside position runs toward every ball and shield it while waiting for a teammate to take a shot?
So VAR never made a mistake before?
From the rulebook:
interfering with play by playing or touching a ball passed or touched by a team-mate or
interfering with an opponent by:
preventing an opponent from playing or being able to play the ball by clearly obstructing the opponent’s line of vision or
challenging an opponent for the ball or
clearly attempting to play a ball which is close when this action impacts on an opponent or
making an obvious action which clearly impacts on the ability of an opponent to play the ball
or
gaining an advantage by playing the ball or interfering with an opponent when it has:
rebounded or been deflected off the goalpost, crossbar or an opponent
been deliberately saved by any opponent
I think there are grounds to allow it.
interfering with play by playing or touching a ball passed or touched by a team-mate or
interfering with an opponent by:
preventing an opponent from playing or being able to play the ball by clearly obstructing the opponent’s line of vision or
challenging an opponent for the ball or
clearly attempting to play a ball which is close when this action impacts on an opponent or
making an obvious action which clearly impacts on the ability of an opponent to play the ball
or
gaining an advantage by playing the ball or interfering with an opponent when it has:
rebounded or been deflected off the goalpost, crossbar or an opponent
been deliberately saved by any opponent
I think there are grounds to allow it.
End the thread guys. As long as var have made their decision, it must be correct.
And well you should, enjoy the win dodgy and all as it was. I'm furious about the decision but we were piss poor for an hour + of that game anyway and didn't deserve to win. Nor did you guys but thems the breaks.
Because VAR is always right
Right, as if VAR works flawlessly.
He shaped to shoot the ball with his left foot so its clearly the bolded.
Just because you don't understanf the rules, doesn't make you right. He didn't touch the ball, didn't block any defenders from getting the ball and did not block goalkeepers vision. I agree it's a stupid rule, but it is what it is and there have been situations just like this where it went "against" United.
It's not something that can be corrected by VAR, it's up to the refs interpretation. He saw what happened, he just decided that it wasn't an offside, there's nothing that VAR would have changed.
His interpretation of the rule is wrong but the call was up to him. Bad call from the ref, good use of the VAR that isn't supposed to correct this kind of mistakes.
Jep, that's exactly it. Could've gotten away with just running with the ball, maybe, but the shooting motion makes it a clear error in my book
Well no, because then he'd be interfering with the defender. There was no defender close to the ball
Didn't impact an opponent's chance to get the ball so disagree.
90% of your own forum are telling you he was interfering, he literally shaped to shoot the ball and drew his left leg back, the rule was fine the ref just got it wrong.