VAR, Refs and Linesmen | General Discussion

Wait!!!! It gets better. BONUCCI WASN'T OFFSIDE
 
Is that the biggest VAR blunder since it's inception? the absolute chaos it caused as well with all the red cards following, insanity.
 
Its all ref faults really. Dont blame technology, blame the human that using it and coveying it.
 
What all this shows is that the standard of refs certainly in England and Italy leave a lot to be desired.

VAR is a clusterf**k it always was going to be because it’s not like tennis or cricket where there isn’t really any subjectivity in the interpretation of the application of the laws nor are the rules around major decisions that complicated to understand.

Rugby is interesting again there is a lot more fact when it comes to the laws but for one most rugby pundits and indeed supporters understand the rules but the vast difference is that even when the refs get it wrong, and they do, everyone just takes it on the chin
 
Seen someone put up Juventus at 1.5 yesterday, just knew to stay away from it..
 
VAR will need serious reform at the end of the season.

I can foresee a big incident at the World Cup forcing the authorities hand.
 
All i can think of is there is some obscure rule that means the defender isn't counted if he's outside the box and uninvolved in the play? Surely better than 'VAR didn't see him' :wenger:
 
Funny how they missed him but maybe they had a momentary mix up and inverted the interfering with play rule.

This and the Real Sociedad game are new levels of incompetence and the officials should be removed. There has to be some accountability if you're either so poor at your job or favouring a team or country that you affiliate with. It does seem like officials for our Sociedad game favoured a Spanish team. I don't expect that be given if their defender did the same thing. With Juve it's clear a very bad mistake, a player out of view but in our game officials decided to ignore where the ball hit Martinez first while looking at clear video. You can put both down to sheer incompetence though and they should not be officiating again.
 
horsechoker said:
VAR will need serious reform at the end of the season.

I can foresee a big incident at the World Cup forcing the authorities hand.
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World Cup will have automated offsides so that line of anguish will soon be gone.
We need a ref reform, we can’t be lowering the standards for VAR to lessen the effects of the refs inability to do their job
 
Looks like this thread only gets updated when VAR makes mistakes (and even then its the VAR referee that errs not the video tech itself you know).

So pat on the back to VAR for not letting old Arry off the hook. And to award the Kane penalty.
 
Not much to moan about today.
 
How Thiago Silva escaped a red card will still be a mystery
 
Any explanation for the Jesus non review for a pen?

The Thiago Silva one was because it was in a wide area 40 odd yards from goal. Can understand why Palace feel aggrieved.

As a Chelsea fan have to feel outside of the Tottenham game we've had very favourable VAR decisions this year.
 
Any juicy stories in the aftermath of that Juve game? Some firings, maybe beatings if they're into that kind of punishment...?
 
The 5th goal looked offside or at least a tight call. And usually they spend 5 minutes on such situations. Then suddenly the put a line from 50 meters high and they declare it onside.
 
Withnail said:
I didn't really notice any City challenges which should have been yellow. They had an easy afternoon. Was there many I missed?
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More a case of him booking United players for fun therefore setting an agenda of United not being able to put a tackle in.
 
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Ayew's momentum is towards the corner flag. There's zero chance he gets a shot off before Chilwell engages him.
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He hasn't knocked it wide though. Without the handball, the ball would be in front of Ayew and on his right foot in the image below. The question is can the Chelsea defence recover in time? He's not slow and has a 6-yard headstart there so I'd back him to get a shot away. Not only that but Ayew has another Palace striker supporting him as well, closer to goal than the nearest Chelsea defenders. It's a red for me, but I thought Potter's comments were fair in that it was a 50/50 one depending on your interpretation. And typically referees give the benefit of the doubt to the defenders.

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Even though it didn’t affect the result, but how on earth did the ref decide there was only 2 minutes of added time yesterday? :lol:

It’s normally 30 seconds per goal and sub.

There were 5 goals, 7 substitutes and 2 VAR checks in the second half.
 
Gio said:
He hasn't knocked it wide though. Without the handball, the ball would be in front of Ayew and on his right foot in the image below. The question is can the Chelsea defence recover in time? He's not slow and has a 6-yard headstart there so I'd back him to get a shot away. Not only that but Ayew has another Palace striker supporting him as well, closer to goal than the nearest Chelsea defenders. It's a red for me, but I thought Potter's comments were fair in that it was a 50/50 one depending on your interpretation. And typically referees give the benefit of the doubt to the defenders.

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That’s a red in my view. It’s slightly complicated by the fact he was slowed down by Silva anyway but, without the handball, he’s got time to get away from the chasing defenders.

Also, I don’t see why benefit of doubt should go in Silva’s favour here. Why has he blatantly handballed it? It’s because he thinks otherwise Ayew is in on goal with a great chance to score. If there’s clear evidence that someone could cover then that’s fine but a 50-50 call in that scenario (which I don’t think this was) should go against Silva in my view.
 
Gio said:
He hasn't knocked it wide though. Without the handball, the ball would be in front of Ayew and on his right foot in the image below. The question is can the Chelsea defence recover in time? He's not slow and has a 6-yard headstart there so I'd back him to get a shot away. Not only that but Ayew has another Palace striker supporting him as well, closer to goal than the nearest Chelsea defenders. It's a red for me, but I thought Potter's comments were fair in that it was a 50/50 one depending on your interpretation. And typically referees give the benefit of the doubt to the defenders.
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Yeah fair enough. The point that Ayew was trying to knock it forward into space is a good one.

I'm definitely biased as well of course. Thought it was a clear foul on Silva that you see given 99 times out of 100.

Doracle said:
Also, I don’t see why benefit of doubt should go in Silva’s favour here. Why has he blatantly handballed it? It’s because he thinks otherwise Ayew is in on goal with a great chance to score. If there’s clear evidence that someone could cover then that’s fine but a 50-50 call in that scenario (which I don’t think this was) should go against Silva in my view.
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He thinks that he's been fouled and he's trying to restart play quickly perhaps? Players grab the ball after they think they've been fouled all the time.
 
Consistency rotten once again. If the VVD tackle against Onana in the derby isn't a red, why is the Emerson against Martinelli one a red?
 
Defo the worst VAR decision I’ve seen to date. Hand in an unnatural position, intentionally moves his hand towards the ball. Blatant.

 
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