Shocking decision. Barca were robbed of a point.
VAR, Refs and Linesmen | General Discussion
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If there’s one team who have benefitted from refereeing decisions over the last 10-15 years it’s been Barcelona so I have zero sympathy for them.
It’s actually decent justice after Busquets performance in their match against Inter in 2010 that got someone sent off.
It’s actually decent justice after Busquets performance in their match against Inter in 2010 that got someone sent off.
Considering that the tweet says that the arm was stretched out all the way and my eyes see his elbow joint at a 90 degree angle as the ball hits it then I’m going to file this under “let’s agree to disagree”. It’s also quite obvious that the handball occurred as a consequence of him missing the header and the arm being there in the supporting position, just like the Barca’s players arm is in a very similar position, because that’s where you keep your arms when attempting to head it.
As for Fati’s handball mentioned in the tweet (haven’t seen it myself), if he scored a goal after it then unintentional handball also counts as an infringement, as opposed to this situation where it has to be intentional or a very unnatural position.
In summary, the guy in the tweet doesn’t know the laws of the game or basic anatomy, or he does know all of that in which case he’s making an illogical argument which makes him full of shit.
It’s not a pen for many reasons under the laws of the game, and especially not once it’s not given on the pitch and the clear and obvious mistake threshold then comes into it. If you want to attempt to convince me otherwise, come at me.
As for Fati’s handball mentioned in the tweet (haven’t seen it myself), if he scored a goal after it then unintentional handball also counts as an infringement, as opposed to this situation where it has to be intentional or a very unnatural position.
In summary, the guy in the tweet doesn’t know the laws of the game or basic anatomy, or he does know all of that in which case he’s making an illogical argument which makes him full of shit.
It’s not a pen for many reasons under the laws of the game, and especially not once it’s not given on the pitch and the clear and obvious mistake threshold then comes into it. If you want to attempt to convince me otherwise, come at me.
Looks like Fati touches both to me. Correct decisions both times.
cnuts again
feck this shite
That's one of the worst VAR decisions I've ever seen
fujck off
We get no luck with handballs.
What’s the difference in that compared to when a defender gets it blasted at him from 2 yards in the box?
That's the worst VAR callback ever
That's a travesty of a handball
Technically I guess it's right given the rules but the rules have only been changed to something so stupid because of VAR.
Just didn't fancy the game being done and dusted so they disallowed it because no replay has shown it clearly hits his arm.
So the rule is if it touches your hand in attack at all it’s handball but it has to be intentional in defence? Or hand in an unnatural position or whatever it’s called.
Yep. It's absurdly nonsensical.
It feels like we've been on the end of some very bad handball calls
Yes, with added arbitrary time between the handball and the ball going in.
I don't get it. It was in a natural position, then why do defenders get away with it if the ball is in a natural position?
Well, the call is correct. The rules are moronic.
Brilliant.
Got to just laugh at this stage.It's a crisis.
I dont mind Rashfords goal being disallowed if theres consistency but there isnt
Ten Hag needs to go all in on this post match. It’s fecking mental.
Surprised people are surprised, it's been the rule for a while.
Any way the 'law' can find to feck us it does
Only if its the goal scorer
The ball did touch Rashford's arm so I can understand why it was disallowed. There was a similar incident with Mane having a disallowed goal against us at OT a couple of seasons ago and I believe it was correct. However, the abject inconsistency with Middlesbrough's equalizer last season makes me incensed whenever I think about it.
Same day, Scamacca accidentally handles the ball and immediately scores after it. VAR looks at it but still awards it.
I've been pro VAR since it came in, I'm officially now anti VAR. Not because VAR is shit, but because the twats using it are fecking braindead
West Ham scored 2 goals today where it touched the hand just before the goal was scored... not 2 cases this season in the league.. 2 cases for 1 team today.. TODAY.
The rule is fine.. the implementation is absolutely pathetic.. how is this acceptable?
VAR has highlighted how dumb the rules can be in certain situations. Add a sprinkle of how inept our refs are at being consistent will both equal a recipe of disaster. Games gone
People are surprised when they see the same thing happen and be allowed in one match and not another. The replays I saw didn’t show definitively where it hit him.
What was the Rashford "goal" even disallowed for? I mean ball is blasted at his hand at very short range and it's not even clear from replays it hit him there.
That gets disallowed and the Scamacca one gets given hours earlier, staggering.
That gets disallowed and the Scamacca one gets given hours earlier, staggering.
Ok I officially give up.
Where's the consistency? VAR was supposed to solve ref's being inconsistent. It's made them worse
Where though? High up, low? If it’s above the sleeve it’s not handball. Maybe my stream isn’t great but I genuinely couldn’t see it.