VAR, Refs and Linesmen | General Discussion

On French TV today I heard that there will no English VAR officials at the World Cup because they don't interpret the rules like the rest of the world.

Don't know if it's true but there have been three inconsistent decisions that I've seen just today.
 
No fecking way that gets ruled out if it's Everton who scores it. Completely arbitrary. Incompetent cnuts.
 
It's so inconsistent and used in such stupid ways that I really don't feel that the game is fairer or better with it. Feels like every game these days is affected negatively by VAR
 
Paul the Wolf said:
On French TV today I heard that there will no English VAR officials at the World Cup because they don't interpret the rules like the rest of the world.

Don't know if it's true but there have been three inconsistent decisions that I've seen just today.
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They're fecking stupid and have to do things differently because they think the rest of the world is interpreting it wrong, not them.
 
acnumber9 said:
People are surprised when they see the same thing happen and be allowed in one match and not another. The replays I saw didn’t show definitively where it hit him.
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That was the thing for me. Could have been shoulder, chest, upper sleeve. None of which are handball. Whatever happened to VAR needing to be certain to change a decision?
 
Is there any accountability? They relevant body should explain why Rashford was a foul and WH's not.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
That was the thing for me. Could have been shoulder, chest, upper sleeve. None of which are handball. Whatever happened to VAR needing to be certain to change a decision?
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And it seemed to be decided within seconds.
 
He squares it to Bruno for an open goal and it's magically not handball (remember that Boro one against us where the lad was playing basketball before squaring to a teammate?).

Absolutely insane rules. There's no justifying it.
 
Paul the Wolf said:
On French TV today I heard that there will no English VAR officials at the World Cup because they don't interpret the rules like the rest of the world.

Don't know if it's true but there have been three inconsistent decisions that I've seen just today.
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It wouldn’t be shocking at all if English officials were banned from the World Cup. What we witnessed today is beyond the pale.
 
Annihilate Now! said:
Low, like his forearm basically.
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You'll have to show me that because no replay has shown it clearly enough to overturn a goal, none that I've seen in any case.

Also ridiculous that if he'd squared it to an unmarked Bruno, it would've stood. Ridiculous rule.

And another also.
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VAR is a fine idea its just that the rules are written such that it's almost impossible to have consistency. That said calls like the Rashford handball should be made correctly 100% of the time as its objective whether the ball hits his hand/arm. Need more rules like that really or maybe VAR should only judge objective calls like offside and if the ball goes out of play in the lead up to a goal.
 
V.O. said:
He squares it to Bruno for an open goal and it's magically not handball (remember that Boro one against us where the lad was playing basketball before squaring to a teammate?).

Absolutely insane rules. There's no justifying it.
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Bubz27 said:
You'll have to show me that because no replay has shown it clearly enough to overturn a goal, none that I've seen in any case.

Also ridiculous that if he'd squared it to an unmarked Bruno, it would've stood. Ridiculous rule.

And another also.
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That's the one. It's just so clearly, obviously fecking stupid it's untrue.
 
V.O. said:
He squares it to Bruno for an open goal and it's magically not handball (remember that Boro one against us where the lad was playing basketball before squaring to a teammate?).

Absolutely insane rules. There's no justifying it.
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Excellent point.
 
Isn’t it only handball right before he scores? He still takes it around the keeper after that.
 
Bubz27 said:
You'll have to show me that because no replay has shown it clearly enough to overturn a goal, none that I've seen in any case.

Also ridiculous that if he'd squared it to an unmarked Bruno, it would've stood. Ridiculous rule.

And another also.
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The ridiculous thing about the Boro goal is they got so wrapped up in the "hitting the hand directly leading to a goal" bit that they forgot to actually check whether it was just a normal handball... Which it obviously was.
 
I understand the rule about not allowing a goal where an attacker uses his hand. My problem is that of the replays I saw, i'm not positive that it did hit his hand. I thought the goal should have stood. And as the guy above me stated, it's a very stupid rule considering the goal would have stood had he passed it off...
 
Andycoleno9 said:
I think that Antonio's goal stoot because he missed first shot so it alcounted as second play.
Don't kill the messanger here. It is idiotic rule
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In that case Pickford’s challenge should rule the handball null and void. The same way but resets for handball. Not only am I not convinced it was handball, I’m not convinced they applied this moronic rule properly.
 
If rashford passed the goal stands. It makes absolutely no sense
 
I'd love to have a discussion with the guy who invented that rule, would be interested to hear how he'd try to explain the sanity of the rule.
 
Jeppers7 said:
Can you explain the West Ham goal then…..no…bore off.
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The Antonio goal posted above? Yes. In between the handball and Antonio scoring there's a save by the goalkeeper and a play of the ball by a defender.

It's fine for you not to understand the difference. But don't post like a prick and tell people to bore off just because you didn't understand the difference.
 
The law has changed since the Boro goal. It was accidental handball and although it was a bit of a bastard, it was the correct decision.
 
Just seen Gabriel's handball while facing the ball. No penalty.
Newcastle yesterday the guy weren't even facing the ball. Hits his hand. Penalty :wenger:
 
sullydnl said:
The Antonio goal posted above? Yes. In between the handball and Antonio scoring there's a save by the goalkeeper and a play of the ball by a defender.

It's fine for you not to understand the difference. But don't post like a prick and tell people to bore off just because you didn't understand the difference.
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But Pickford also played the ball. Deliberately. Is it in the rules that it’s disallowed if one opponent touches the ball but if two do it then it’s ok?
 
SadlerMUFC said:
I understand the rule about not allowing a goal where an attacker uses his hand. My problem is that of the replays I saw, i'm not positive that it did hit his hand. I thought the goal should have stood. And as the guy above me stated, it's a very stupid rule considering the goal would have stood had he passed it off...
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It certainly was not clear and obvious that the ball hit his hand/arm at all, imo. But the check was done very quickly. Really strange decision
 
Widow said:
The law has changed since the Boro goal. It was accidental handball and although it was a bit of a bastard, it was the correct decision.
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No it hasn’t. His hand wasn’t in a natural position.
 
Nothing to see here. Just hide from any questions from journalist or media. Without need to explaining anything. Just hide. And lets do it again and again and again.

I've written 1000 times. There need to be mic on referees and in VAR room who makes decisions. There should even be camera. Because this is beyond anything. Trust for fair refereeing is just gone for many. You have multi billion industry and yet they are making up rules as it goes.
 
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