Meh, people like him, McCain and Graham criticise Trump and the GOP but they all fall in line when push comes to shove.
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Meh, people like him, McCain and Graham criticise Trump and the GOP but they all fall in line when push comes to shove.
Google it, it's not hard to find stories about the types of people we are talking about. Just because you have no experience of something doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
I use mine rarely. Every week? Stop speeding dude!
what did I say doesn't exist?
That's a fair point, I hardly ever use mine. Apart from the odd night club
Why the fcuk does he need his all the time?
You put it down to laziness, as if to say it's not really a problem. Exaggerated? If only they would put in the effort....
Like I said look it up. Or don't...
If I use a credit card they ask for ID.
Why? Haven't you signed it?
Weird. I know someone who wrote "please see my ID" instead of signing his card. Nobody ever asked to see his ID.
That's a fair point, I hardly ever use mine. Apart from the odd night club
Why the fcuk does he need his all the time?
You put it down to laziness, as if to say it's not really a problem. Exaggerated? If only they would put in the effort....
Like I said look it up. Or don't...
I'm not sure we are in the same wave length. I think voter suppression exists, and is awful to do. At the same time it's genuinely shocking that so many people are without ID and should make a greater effort to get one. I have to travel 3 hrs to get a Visa to go to the USA and stand in a line for half a day in the Sun. Sometimes Americans genuinely just like to complain when something isn't easy to get. If you don't believe... you can Google it
Feck me, so since you are well off, you got an education without bothering to go to school, you probably got a job without searching, and surely, you must have become a voter without registering to vote. Congrats to you sir!
yes I have.
what if I intercepted your credit card and signed it with my signature and went on a shopping spree. what then?
You are either deliberately obtuse or trolling.
Fun fact for you: most social studies suggest that you are most likely to end up at the same social class/income bracket of your parents. Circumstances dictate your life much more than you'd like to believe.
I don't need to I know people like that in the UK. Yea I think I misread your post. The other guy wound me up as I carry some of that into your post.
All I will say is that some of the examples I saw (via documentary and articles) had nothing to do with people being lazy. It can be genuinely hard, what about if you are old? Or poor? Or old and poor? As miles away from the places you need to get to without help? I could go on... You could say try harder, but at which point do you say enough is enough? Especially when you have other thing going on your life.
Dunno how it works over there but here you need to activate a card before use. It's also sent out recorded delivery. Fraud is covered. If I lose my card and don't cancel it then that's on me too... It's weird you need to do that but fair enough. If you hadn't signed it that would explain it, but...
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Are you describing yourself? Have you read any of the info people have posted for you?
Any chance of this derailment being stopped? Cheers.
I havent answered it because its bullshit and has feck all to do with targeting minorities to restrict them voting ESPECIALLY when they vote by a huge majority for one party. Wake up and stop acting the maggot.
I live in a thrid world country where the litteracy rate is teribble, there is one tax office where ids are issued in each parish but yet you have old 90 year old people, that have a legal name and a community name different (try identifying someone thats known as barbara but her birth and legal name is Mary
), live in remote parts of the island, find thier fat ass to the tax office and get ID's so they can vote for thier MP. In some cases some dont have birth certificates and have to travel multiple times to multiple places (tax office , registra office, police staion) and wait hours in line to get an ID. The black lady in the John Olivers video that had to go back to the same place three times to get her ID sorted ...boo fecking hoo. To me thats no excuse. Its a mentality thing. Maybe an ID isnt as necessary in the USA as it is elsewhere but it bothers me how lazy they can be and full of excuses when something literally isnt handed to them on a platter.Voter suppression is below the belt shit, but i really do think Americans expect things too easy. I remember the big issue when they were required to have passports to travel internationally. I was in amazement that they didnt need a passport and just a drivers license to leave the country
If I posted the shite just posted, I would get a warning in my inbox in seconds. Now, since you are unable to have a conversation without resorting to personal attacks, I am ignoring you from now on. It's not the first time you have done this, I have seen you make personal attacks on many other posters.
Read it on the italian version of the Wall Street Journal. Probably a fake one.
Black people are targeted end of. Doesnt matter how much money they have. Deal with it.
I was just about to say the same thing, Chief. I saw 3 pages since this morning and was excited to see what I had missed but instead get three pages of people trying to explain the problems of illegal voter suppression to someone who just thinks that it's not real and people's fault for not wanting it or trying hard enough. Some of the answers over the last 3 pages would be better suited in the flat Earth thread rather than here.It played a part in a certain someone getting elected
But you are right, sorry for being part of derailing
Has anyone in this thread actually said that voter suppression doesn't exist? Reading through the last few pages it seems that all @ghagua has said is that regardless of the hurdles that the GOP have placed in front of minority voters to get registered, if it really was that important to them then by hook or by crook they should jump those hurdles.
If the GOP truely want to deny votes to a large section of society then the best course of action is to do the thing they don't want you to do...regardless of how fecking hard it is.
If the GOP truely want to deny votes to a large section of society then the best course of action is to do the thing they don't want you to do...regardless of how fecking hard it is.
In Texas, even if you are allowed to register new voters, you aren't allowed to do it if they are your neighbor but from different county. True story.
Do people need to take more interest in politics? Yes. Does the fact that a big portion of them, disproportionately poor and of non-white background, face systemic suppression that sought to deny their rights and disengage them from politics, down to their own agency (or to use his word, laziness)? Feck no.
They sound like Texans alright.
Still talking about people getting off their backside, you have issues pal.
Well yes, but it is still unfair, and it will still have an effect. I'll say no more....
Thank you. That's all I said.
Well he lives in NJ and commutes to Virginia so that makes everyone but him lazy. It's like arguing with Kate Hopkins.
That's all I am trying to say. But no, I don't have issues thank you.
I also agree with you in certain aspects.
You should just get back to that motivational self help book you are so obviously in the middle of reading then. Facts, data and research have been presented to you on this forum and I bet you have not read one word of it. Instead everyone is lazy based on you and you're family's experiences. Look in to North Carolina and what the GOP are doing to democratic voters and then tell us it's their own fault, I bet you can't. And if you can then yes sir, you do have issues.
I know there are people that are too lazy to improve their situation or their community but please don't use that as a broad brush to excuse the suppression by a political party of democratic progressive citizens. You wouldn't like it if you were in their situation and I reckon you would be discouraged too.
Did I touch a raw nerve with you? If I did, I do apologize. I just feel that if there are obstacles, there is a way to overcome that, but if you don;t want to work for it, it's easy to sit back and blame the system.
"We're going to arbitrarily change the laws every few years to make it harder for political opponents to get more votes than us"
"Good old fashioned obstacles!"
Yes but that is you. In the grand scheme you and I are insignificant but when the rights of millions are being trampled on then we must fight for the greater good and telling people to get off the couch doesn't work. Obviously you and I can get around these obstacles but what about the 83 year old black lady in SC or the 55 year old Asian with very poor English. Unless you understand this from their perspective then you will probably see no issue.
I just want everyone to have a fair shake and voting should be the great equalizer but one party in a two party system is continuing to make it much harder even though there has been less then 30 instances (mostly republican I might add) of in person voter fraud in over a billion ballots cast. Do you not see the problem here?
Seriously, I aint saying a word.
I don't know to laugh or cry with this
@ghagua
Here's your example for registered but unable to vote.
https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www...dc4708-0188-11e6-b823-707c79ce3504_story.html
Here's your example for registered but unable to vote.
https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www...dc4708-0188-11e6-b823-707c79ce3504_story.html
The GOP being the GOP would just change what constitutes valid I.D. just before the election.
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