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White House now saying he was fired because morale in the agency was low and that Trump last faith 6 months ago despite praising him in public repeatedly.
Anyone that doesn't believe there is a cover up needs their heads checked.
 


So the guy Comey went to for more funding/help with the Trump/Russia ties, wrote the letter that told him he was fired?

:lol:


Yeah, the same guy that was supposed to have recused himself from the investigation.
 
http://time.com/4774551/donald-trump-approval-rating-may-quinnipiac-poll/?xid=homepage
President Donald Trump's approval rating has fallen to a near record low with significant losses among white voters with no college degree, white men and independent voters, a new poll has found.

The survey, conducted by Quinnipiac University among nationwide participants, found that Trump has a 36% approval rating compared to 58% who disapprove of him. The number is down from Quinnipiac's April 19 poll, which found a 40% approval rating, and just 1% higher than his lowest-ever rating since he became president.

Key among those declines were groups that strongly advocated for his election. Approval among white voters with no college degree fell 10 points from 57% to 47% since April 19. White men went from a 53% approval to a 48% approval in that same time.


The poll the Times liked to has more details:
The president is losing support among independent voters and groups which are important parts of his base. Approval ratings are:
  • Negative 29 - 63 percent among independent voters, down from a negative 38 - 56 percent April 19;
  • A split among white voters with no college degree, as 47 percent approve and 46 percent disapprove, compared to a 57 - 38 percent approval April 19;
  • White men go from a 53 - 41 percent approval April 19 to a split today with 48 percent approving and 46 percent disapproving.

By a 54 - 38 percent margin, American voters want the Democratic Party to win control of the U.S. House of Representatives. This is the widest margin ever measured for this question in a Quinnipiac University poll, exceeding a 5 percentage point margin for Republicans in 2013.

American voters dislike Democrats less than they dislike Republicans:
  • Voters disapprove 71 - 22 percent of the way Republicans in Congress do their job;
  • Voters disapprove 58 - 34 percent of the way Democrats in Congress are doing their job.
 
Got to assume that was a very unusually Dem sample, 16 point lead in the congressional ballot is a bit too yuge to be believed.
 
You know your Presidential approval rating is shite when it reads like a Stoke City possession stat.
 
You know your Presidential approval rating is shite when it reads like a Stoke City possession stat.
"But sir, how can we possible win with numbers like this?"
"The way we always win. Get the big man up top and stick it in the mixer."
 
Yeah, the same guy that was supposed to have recused himself from the investigation.

Yup, it's priceless really.

I hate to bang on about it but many of us in here have been talking about all this for months. Look at it this way, we are just some guys (and girls) on a football forum, we just chat between ourselves using the evidence we are given from news channels and the media and social media (mainly Twitter) Between us all many of us have formulated ideas in our own minds what is going on. I admit that it is often easier looking from the outside in, but as someone said earlier, this really isn't rocket science is it?

The evidence is clear for all to see. The President of the United States of America is as crooked as they come. He's a chancer, a Del Boy type wanna be geezer and he's also completely full of shit. He's a braggart and an unstable, erratic, short tempered, vicious, nasty man who holds a grudge and likes to publically humiliate his enemies. His family are no different and despite everything that has happened in the past, and I could list well over 100 things that would have sunk anyone else no matter how famous, and would have destroyed any other politicians career and probably seen them end up in jail, they all appear untouchable and nothing has stuck. We all knew something was going on and there was substance to the Russian rumours simply because of how many people it implicated and because Trump refused (and still refuses) to release his tax returns and because Trump himself, and both his boys, have openly admitted to having close ties to Russia and to being heavily financed by the Russians.

On top of the Russian connections and the constant lying, attacking the Press, attacking anyone who upsets him usually with a very childish or petulant Tweet as a retort, completely humiliating his country with the way he has acted around other foreign leaders and openly insulting the Angela Merkel to the world while physically wrestling the Japanese PM Abe in front of the entire world. To that list we can add his recent healthcare bill, the two failed travel bans that were essentially Muslim bans, insulting the heads of the intelligence agencies, not accepting the fact he lost the popular vote, constantly calling the Dems childish and blaming them or Obama for his failures, he complained and lied about the number of people at his inauguration and he has gone back on many of his campaign promises including the main ones of locking Hillary up and building a wall. Then we have the fact he is not only using the Presidency as a massive get rich quick scheme and ripping the country off, but he and his children are also completely breaking emolument laws and conflict of interest laws. So much of what they are doing is shamelessly out in the open, it really is so brazen on so many counts. How many times has someone posted something in this thread or the Election thread and said something along the lines of "Wow, so out in the open, they really are taking the piss and rubbing peoples faces in it"

That's not mentioning the fact that he and many of his cabinet could well be committing treason.

So, us, on the internet, in a forum just chatting between ourselves yet ALL of this is evident. I would gladly put everything I own up against my firm belief in every single word I have written above, and believe me I have left so much out. But the point being is I/we have all ascertained and garnished all this simply from the internet and news channels. Not one of us is a real investigative journalist or works for any of the worlds intelligence agencies (Or do any of you?:nervous:) And yet we can all say we know most of these illegal acts are happening and we have not been privy to any classified material other than what has leaked on the net. If this is what we know, then what the feck do the intelligence agencies know? And how long before they act on it?

I saw an excellent analogy earlier that said besides all the Russian stuff there is more than enough to impeach Trump for with the conflicts of interest and emoluments laws being broken, so it may be like putting Al Capone away for Tax Evasion but it's better than nothing. If they don't get Trump one way, they will get him another. It's not a question of if, it's when, and how bad is it all and how many are connected?

Feck, sorry for all that. :lol:

I should add that i'm really not surprised by any of this and think it's only going to get much, much worse. He's off his fecking nut.
 
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The best part is he probably thought the media scrutiny would die down if he got rid of Comey and squashed the Russia investigation with a sycophant replacement. The reality is he's poured gasoline on a fire.
Surely it's all just huff and puff for a week or so and then he'll do something else to move the agenda. He's been doing that since day 1: scandal after atrocity after madness and yet here we still are.

Many commented that he has a thin skin: I don't think it's so straightforward: his ego and narcism protects him from the unprecedented media spotlight and criticism. He seems to be doing fine from what I can see. He just makes it up while he plods along. The resistance grows smaller and less vocal through fatigue: we all have our own life challenges to overcome.

If he can't be impeached for Comey, then then I think we have 18 more months of this dictatorship before Democrats hopefully regain Congress and the Senate.
 
It's nuts isn't it. Literally all the good stuff he got voted in on he's done the exact opposite.
I mean, you have to take politicians at face value or what's the point.
You've got all the racist dickheads, the proper thick cnuts and the loaded who would just vote for anyone conservative, but you've also got a section of normal people who knew Hilary was a terrible choice and/or just wanted a bit of change.
Crackers.
 
It's nuts isn't it. Literally all the good stuff he got voted in on he's done the exact opposite.
I mean, you have to take politicians at face value or what's the point.
You've got all the racist dickheads, the proper thick cnuts and the loaded who would just vote for anyone conservative, but you've also got a section of normal people who knew Hilary was a terrible choice and/or just wanted a bit of change.
Crackers.
Donald Trump is not "a bit of change".

Plus, change is not equal to BETTER. This was always going to be a risky move, and it has proven to be such.
 
This was always going to be a risky move,

Sorry, I have to disagree with you there, I think that is a YUGE understatement. This was always going to be exactly what it is, an absolute clusterfeck. The only question I (and many others here) ever had was how much of a clusterfeck and how would it end? Just disgracefully, prison, or war, and if so, how big a war?

As I said in my very long post above ( I got sidetracked a bit) All the evidence pointed this way, anyone who expected any different is either very deluded, wasn't paying attention or didn't care or unfortunately was just exceedingly desperate or just plain fecking thick.
 
Feck me, just watched Sarah Huckabee replacing Spicey, and she actually said....

"If Democrats would stop worrying about saving our democracy, we could focus on making America great again."

If the Democrats let us rip up the constitution and destroy all the values the country was supposedly built on and just let us become a real dictatorship, then we could focus on making America great again. Unbelievable.
 
Feck me, just watched Sarah Huckabee replacing Spicey, and she actually said....



If the Democrats let us rip up the constitution and destroy all the values the country was supposedly built on and just let us become a real dictatorship, then we could focus on making America great again. Unbelievable.
The best way to make America great again is to be that model democracy that other nations look up to.
 
The best way to make America great again is to be that model democracy that other nations look up to.

Very true, but that is never, ever going to happen all the time you have someone as corrupt and inept and volatile as Trump in charge. I fear it's going to take a very long time for the USA to recover from this mess. I just hope Trump does so much damage to himself and his party that it lives long in the memory of every US citizen and prevents them ever making the same mistake again.
 
Sorry, I have to disagree with you there, I think that is a YUGE understatement. This was always going to be exactly what it is, an absolute clusterfeck. The only question I (and many others here) ever had was how much of a clusterfeck and how would it end? Just disgracefully, prison, or war, and if so, how big a war?

As I said in my very long post above ( I got sidetracked a bit) All the evidence pointed this way, anyone who expected any different is either very deluded, wasn't paying attention or didn't care or unfortunately was just exceedingly desperate or just plain fecking thick.
Yeah, the writing was on the wall... everywhere. It's unbelievable that people were that deluded for 18 months. Even the fact that he got the nomination in itself was crazy, let alone entering the office that was once occupied by Washington, Lincoln, FDR, Eisenhower and JFK.
 
Yeah, the writing was on the wall... everywhere. It's unbelievable that people were that deluded for 18 months. Even the fact that he got the nomination in itself was crazy, let alone entering the office that was once occupied by Washington, Lincoln, FDR, Eisenhower and JFK.

It's disgusting that this ogre of a man is treading the same floors as some of the greatest and most influential politicians in the worlds history. It's a charade and a fecking dangerous one and it needs to stop and quickly for everyone's benefit and before he does anymore damage. I firmly believe they have more than enough now to impeach him, but as I said I just worry how long that will take. How long will this be allowed to continue? It's like a soap opera and it's destroying the country, but the trouble is the GOP are so greedy and shameless and hated what Obama did so much that they will stomach Trump as long as they get what they want. Surely there has to be a tipping point though? How much longer, how much more corruption and humiliation are they prepared to take before enough is enough?
 
It's disgusting that this ogre of a man is treading the same floors as some of the greatest and most influential politicians in the worlds history. It's a charade and a fecking dangerous one and it needs to stop and quickly for everyone's benefit and before he does anymore damage. I firmly believe they have more than enough now to impeach him, but as I said I just worry how long that will take. How long will this be allowed to continue? It's like a soap opera and it's destroying the country, but the trouble is the GOP are so greedy and shameless and hated what Obama did so much that they will stomach Trump as long as they get what they want. Surely there has to be a tipping point though? How much longer, how much more corruption and humiliation are they prepared to take before enough is enough?
It is hard to say, and I don't have any expectations that they will rush to end this disastrous presidency:
1. In 2009-2010, they opposed Obama's steps to deal with the Crisis. The result: the Tea Party rose, and the GOP won the House (democrats let Obama down and I blame them a lot, to be fair).
2. In late 2012 we had the fiscal cliff and 2013 a government shutdown. Everyone thought that the GOP will pay the price in the 2014 elections. Well, they regained control of the Senate.
3. In 2015-2016 they opposed everything that Obama proposed (including a hearing to his nominee for the Supreme Court) and allowed Trump to take over. People were sure that they will lose in 2016. Well, here we are.

The bottom line: the GOP have no incentive to change their behavior because they didn't yet pay any price for it. They got what they wanted at the national level and the state level. Therefore, barring a MAJOR MAJOR development in the Russia story, I don't see that happening.

I just think that Democrats should go to vote. Enough with this laziness and lack of responsibility. They could've voted in 2016 for the Senate, at least.
 
It is hard to say, and I don't have any expectations that they will rush to end this disastrous presidency:

I agree and funnily enough they are discussing exactly the same thing on CNN right now. I think the Republicans are a hardy and stubborn lot and this may have to go a lot further and they might have to endure much more embarrassment, humiliation and ineptitude and corruption before they start jumping ship.

Here's Comey's letter of goodbye to his colleagues at the FBI.

 
I agree and funnily enough they are discussing exactly the same thing on CNN right now. I think the Republicans are a hardy and stubborn lot and this may have to go a lot further and they might have to endure much more embarrassment, humiliation and ineptitude and corruption before they start jumping ship.

Here's Comey's letter of goodbye to his colleagues at the FBI.


As mad as Comey made me during the election, I can honestly say I believe he was trying to do the right thing. Did he make mistakes? Yes. But I honestly think he is an honest guy who tried to do an honest job.
 
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