Everything is speculation at this point of time. Including 'Trump is better than Hillary when it comes to war'
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Everything is speculation at this point of time. Including 'Trump is better than Hillary when it comes to war'
They're not going to suddenly stop attacking you if you promise to leave them alone now though. It's easy to avoid senseless wars when everything is relatively calm, less so when the country is attacked.
In fact, as Kissinger pointed out in his recent interview, terrorist groups will probably be encouraged by the election of a candidate they think would react to a terrorist attack in a way that suits them.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkacz...-iraq-on-the?utm_term=.hleMxow4aR#.vag8b2onEG
There you can find the sound clip were Trump is saying he is for the Iraq War just like Hillary. Trump is not the peaceful guy you think he is and he is the same as Obama when he says he wants to bomb ISIS to the grund.
China certainly have been very aggressive in Tibet and have occupied their territory. They are aggressive in the south Chinese Sea today as well ( they build military bases on fake islands ) and this shows expansionist policy and the stronger they get the more aggressive they will become like any other big nation in the history of mankind.
Russia have annexed lands from both Georgia and Ukraine. This is acts of war on the international scene and this certainly do prove Russia wants wars against nations they can bully and steal from. They are hardly peaceful nations.
You mean like Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
Let's face it, the US being the only remaining superpower in the world is mostly built on your military might.
The USD being the world's currency is mostly built on your military might.
The current world order is also built on your military might.
If you go isolationist, all of that will change and those closest to replacing the US as the dominant force are totalitarian regimes.
Thank you, the US has maintained world order for seven decades and if Trump suddenly decides they no longer want to do that, it'll throw the world into chaos.
I would very much disagree with that coming from a south korean. (well, technically I'm american but that's my heritage)
I was livid when bernie was snubbed for hillary, even more so when I realized that DNC effectively snubbed him for hillary. if they didn't push such car crash of a candidate on us, and didn't already think the race was won (0 rallies in wisconsin FFS), it would've been a more obvious choice as to who to vote. as things stood it was two candidates who I really didn't want to become president for different reasons, to the point where discussion who's worse was pointless. so the most obvious choice for me was voting for neither, and instead save my first vote for someone who deserves it.
amidst all of this though, and I know it sounds crazy to some people here, but I'm going to give trump a chance and see if he delivers on ANY of the good promises he made throughout the campaign. if he doesn't, then I know who I'm voting against come 2020.
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Very valid and I agree, policy, likeability, economy and foreign policy are all discussions that must be had during any election but shouldn't bigotry, racism and mysoginistic tendencies disqualify any candidate in a country like the US?
think about what you are saying. We should be involved in war around world killing innocent people for business interest. btw the folks back home are not doing all that well.
None of that can possibly go through that kind of a drastic change in a period of 4 years, though.
Grow up you pussy.
You keep going on about innocent people, how many innocent people will die if you don't get involved?
If FDR had your line of thinking, perhaps 1/3 of the world will be speaking German and another 1/3 Japanese.
Please don't quote that mass murderer Kissinger.
We need to stop being seen as enemy by these people. Obama made the correct gesture when he addressed peeople in that part of the world. We cannot change things overnight. We need to treat people we trade with fairly.
You have the same problem in Europe, France and Germany dictates the European union and I'm sure U.K. leaving was because they don't won't to be governed by Germans or French, about US most of the people here ignores what someone already said when the states joined the union they made sure their voice could be heard.
Japan attacked us. Remember?
Another thing evangelicals will ignore about the guy.
Not voting is just sheer laziness as far as I'm concerned, if you don't make the effort to even go in a polling both and spoil a ballot/write in someone you like then you're just a lazy fecker. Though ffs if you're going to write-in a meme and post it on the caf, at least do the one based on your own username.
Depends how far back you go, it was annexed by the Ching Dynasty in the 18th century.
Germany never attacked you, also pretty sure Japan did that due to the economic sanctions the US imposed on them at the time.
Of course. No one in their right minds would ever vote Trump as a candidate let alone president. That obviously doesn't mean those people who don't want Trump have to necessarily vote for Clinton if they don't agree with her either, which was the point there.
Japan was part of the Axis Alliance.
Though the US entering the war is usually given as the reason teh Nazis were defeated, it is primarily the Russians who defeated them. They paid a heavy price with their lives.
Incidently, "bombing the shit out of them and take their oil" doesn't sound like isolationist or "not killing innocent people". 
Let's not getting whatifs about WWII, I seriously doubt the Third Reich would have been defeated without American involvement. They might not have been successful in invading Russia, but they could certainly have held their line if they didn't face any invasion from the west.
I agree entirely with those principles. My argument is that Trump wouldn't stick by them in the event of a terrorist attack, as at that point he would be under the sort of pressure that really tests a leader's temperament and conviction, two qualities he appears to lack.
Plus, as Cal? pointed out above, he has already given indications of a less than isolationist world view.
It's a shame there are people who can't follow this. Great posts.
That is a key statement and you are absolutely right, you cannot have every individual choosing their own candidate, and there always will be some who don't agree with any choice given to them. But if that was the case here, where the candidate appealed to the majority of the population even if not for everyone, then the few exceptions who didn't vote for anyone wouldn't have hurt Clinton's hopes of taking the office. What the results show is otherwise, that the majority did not agree with her, period. Whether they voted for Trump, a third party or no one, all of that comes after that.
The very fact that you have to blame the no-voters pretty much affirms that the suggested candidate was nowhere near being an overwhelming choice.
As for all of this, I'm sorry but you are talking out of ignorance here. You have no idea what a 'NO VOTE' can do, and there have been actual No Vote Movements in several nations when the population is sick and tired of the machine churning out the same puppet time and time again.
It's weird, the number of CE threads that end up about who really beat the Nazis.
That's the reason we joined the allies in the second war and the Germans shot their own foot when invaded the Russia they lost I think over 3 million men in Russia.
Yes, I agree but this is not Romney/Ryan who I would of accepted and moved on. During the primaries over the last two cycles there were valid compassionate conservative candidates. The stakes were so high in this election, not for the economy or foreign/domestic policy but for the color of you're skin, you're ethnicity, you're sexual orientation, the god you worship and the craziest of all, you're gender.
I understand every reservation about Clinton but I feel the decent thing for all of us would be to suck it up with a Clinton administration than worry about the safety of everyone with an unpredictable hateful person like Trump.
I am hopeful he will shake up the system, it needs it but the hatred we have seen for our fellow citizens this cycle is just too much for me and millions of others in the country.
This is exactly how Nazi Germany ended.Ubik said:
Without Pearl Harbor we'd have not gone to war.
The Trump Presidency has awoken the Trews....
The problem is that when your spoilt vote isn't acknowledge people end up disenchanted because it's virtually like pissing against the wind.
PS: I don't understand the last sentence.
No after we declared on Japan Germany declared war on the US.
I'm sorry mate, but there is a distinct lack of WW2 knowledge right here.
err. yeah....suuure.
https://www.goodreads.com/poll/show/132098-who-was-most-responsible-for-defeating-the-nazis
Trump does not want a war with Russia. Hillary wanted a no fly zone in Syria. Surest way to have war with them.
He is a reactionary. Not a neo con.
I know! Someone who has such a brilliant and succinct way to summarise his feelings, his footballing opinions are shite though.
I applaud a no vote under certain circumstances but we can all agree that despite the many flaws with both candidates there was one that will send us in to a period of uncertainty and fear of what's to come. Even a third party candidate vote is a valid protest vote but Johnson is dumb as shit and woefully unprepared for a position of this magnitude.
And I'm not talking out of ignorance, I have voted for an independent candidate many times and refused to vote, I understand what that means but when I think of my children, my wife and the many people I know that are not English speaking whites like myself, I would take Clinton over Trump everyday.
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