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Well it's pretty simple. You're voting for the candidate in your very words is the "lesser evil". Therefore allowing you to vote into office the slightly better candidate.

This is a decision that will effect your and your family/friends lives for the next 4 years. It's a responsibility to vote.
Read my edit. Also I am not sure that Hillary is the lesser evil and it looks like many people who didn't voted are in the same boat.

And my main point still stands:
One thing is clear to me, no one should became a president because he is competing against a bad candidate and not because he/she is a good candidate, even less to become a president of USA.
 
It's all about voting the lesser of two evils, yet when you vote in your opinion the lesser of two evils everyone else screams at you. I've seen it in RedCafe and I've seen it everywhere on social media.

It's frankly disgusting we can't have an opinion without someone else getting pissed. The movement of SJW has only been highlighted in the campaign.

Maybe someone thought Trump was the lesser of two evils? Maybe someone thought Hillary was? If so you don't start shouting at them for voting for the 'wrong' candidate because there is no wrong candidate.

Jesus get a grip
 
Why, do you really thing voting against someone is what is right?
I hate campaigns where there is all about convincing people to vote against you opponent instead to convince people to vote for you.
Edit: i always voted in every elections in my country since I was 18 but if there were 2 candidates like that in my country I would thought twice if I should vote.

The sad thing is, and everyone is forgetting to talk about it, that USA couldn't get better candidates then those two.
I don't see a problem with it at all, it's almost like a cup final, one team (person in this case), so their are teams who attack (campaign on why people should vote for you), others teams who defend (campaign on why your opposition is unfit to be president). Both are very valid strategies.
 
One thing is clear to me, no one should became a president because he is competing against a bad candidate and not because he/she is a good candidate, even less to become a president of USA.

By all accounts, Trump became president because he competed against a bad candidate who couldn't motivate her base. Obama would have walked this if he was allowed to run again.
 
it's almost like a cup final
It just, completely, isn't. That's the root of the problem right there.

The sad thing is, and everyone is forgetting to talk about it, that USA couldn't get better candidates then those two.
Yep. Said this before, I don't think I've seen the two frontrunners for an election, not just US but any other that I've followed, being this bad.
 
Pakistani news channel claims Donald Trump was born in Pakistan as Dawood Ibrahim Khan
http://britishasiansuk.com/pakistan...-was-born-in-pakistan-as-dawood-ibrahim-khan/

A Pakistani news channel has ran a story stating Donald Trump was actually born in Pakistan and his real name is Dawood Ibrahim Khan.

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The Neo News anchor maintained a confident tone and a straight face as she told the millions of people who watch the show that the President-elect was born as Dawood Ibrahim Khan in Waziristan in 1954 where he also received his primary education.

She also claimed that he later lost his parents in a road accident later and was taken to London by a British Indian Army Captain.

They finally claim that Trump was adopted in 1955 and taken to America.

The channel also found a photo of a child they claim to be a younger Donald Trump.

Although the channel said that it was not them that came up with the story but social media users, it has still left people in disbelief and angry at how a reputable news outlet could report such baseless stories as fact.



:lol: No more than he deserves after all the birther shit. I'd love for this to take hold and be reported as much as that, but that's highly unlikely. Shame.
 
Best news coming out from America for ages, a chance for peace in the world and so so good to see all these leftists crying.
What? It'll sure be very peaceful when Putin decide to annex some more of the former USSR when he feels like it; or China invading Japan over the Senkaku Islands. :nervous:
 
Obama would've absolutely floored Trump. It was mostly Hillarys fault in my opinion, and I know that might be a too narrow opinion but Obama was so much more connected with the people and had very little corruptions to his name that people wouldn't think of him as the "loud and corrupt" individual which most people hate.

If only Obama had the backing of congress behind him :(
 
I'm guessing people are looking for the stability that ensues when strongmen carve up the earth.

I'm thinking that was more just a WUM post trying to rile people up out of spite and pettiness. I also think it was more because of Trump's and the Republican party's stance on Iran and Palestine, which most intelligent and fair people think is incredibly batshit and dangerous. You could be right though.
 
It just, completely, isn't. That's the root of the problem right there.


Yep. Said this before, I don't think I've seen the two frontrunners for an election, not just US but any other that I've followed, being this bad.
2 people go for 1 competition where it's winner takes all - it's exactly like it.

Also, Hillary Clinton has her faults, but she's by no means a terrible candidate.
 
I'm sure he doesn't care

You don't understand Drumpf very well then. If this got even the smallest percentage of NATIONAL coverage and interest as Obama's birther issue did then The Donald would be going apoplectic. One thing he doesn't do well is take any form of criticism at all.
 
The video says 1946 tbf...

Dawood Ibrahim though. Great choice of name :D. Don't know how real Dawood will take it.

:lol: I thought I recognized the name, it's the Mumbai mafia don currently in Karachi, right?
 
Voting is a right, not an obligation.
People who criticise those who didn't vote when there wasn't any option they would like to vote for are lost on the concept of a democracy.

I can't stand people not voting. So feel free to call me lost. I'll also ensure that I remind Eboue that he didn't vote every time he moans about Trump in office. That is also my right. :)
 
You don't understand Drumpf very well then. If this got even the smallest percentage of NATIONAL coverage and interest as Obama's birther issue did then The Donald would be going apoplectic. One thing he doesn't do well is take any form of criticism at all.
Still sticking to Drumpf?
Have some respect for your president.
 
:lol: He's not MY President and I have 0 respect for him. In truth, I'm struggling to think of anyone I have less respect for.
Are you not American?
It doesnt matter if some people in America didnt vote for him... He has been elected. People need to get through their 5 stages of grief quickly and just accept the fact that he is going to be their president for at least 4 years.
 
Drumpf isn't disrespectful anyway. It's his ancestral name and I doubt he minds anyone calling him that.
Well, its clearly used to mock him.. (even though I dont think its that funny)

From what I remember, the left wasnt too happy when the right used Obama's middle name.

Context matters. Calling him Drumpf is silly... and childish.
 
Are you not American?
It doesnt matter if some people in America didnt vote for him... He has been elected. People need to get through their 5 stages of grief quickly and just accept the fact that he is going to be their president for at least 4 years.


Nope i'm not American. As for the rest, I agree he could be President for 4 years, but he may not. A lot of things can happen, especially with someone so unpredictable, so extremely disliked, and with his age. A lot of things could change, heck, you don't know, he may not even make it to January.
 
Nope i'm not American. As for the rest, I agree he could be President for 4 years, but he may not. A lot of things can happen, especially with someone so unpredictable, so extremely disliked, and with his age. A lot of things could change, heck, you don't know, he may not even make it to January.
Congrats. You've just been added to NSA's list...
 
Nope i'm not American. As for the rest, I agree he could be President for 4 years, but he may not. A lot of things can happen, especially with someone so unpredictable, so extremely disliked, and with his age. A lot of things could change, heck, you don't know, he may not even make it to January.
I hope he does, President Pence worries me even more.
 
I can't stand people not voting. So feel free to call me lost. I'll also ensure that I remind Eboue that he didn't vote every time he moans about Trump in office. That is also my right. :)

And there lies the problem, if he votes for Trump and complains about Trump, you will remind him that he is responsible. If he votes for Clinton and complains about Clinton, you will remind him that he is responsible. And if he decides to not vote because he hates both candidates you will remind him that he is responsible. You put him in a situation where he has to shut up and take it.

In reality, he isn't responsible because electors don't really have the choice of the candidates. In a proper Democracy, when abstention/blank vote wins, the other candidates should be eliminated and a new election should occur but that's too complicated from a logistic standpoint.
 
And there lies the problem, if he votes for Trump and complains about Trump, you will remind him that he is responsible. If he votes for Clinton and complains about Clinton, you will remind him that he is responsible. And if he decides to not vote because he hates both candidates you will remind him that he is responsible. You put him in a situation where he has to shut up and take it.

In reality, he isn't responsible because electors don't really have the choice of the candidates. In a proper Democracy, when abstention/blank vote wins, the other candidates should be eliminated and a new election should occur but that's too complicated from a logistic standpoint.

To be fair, we're not exactly talking about a normal election. This has been so controversial because of Trumps policies and the people who have surrounded and attached to him. Trump said it himself, Clinton was more of the same, more Obama. Trump promised the opposite (whether he'll deliver is anyones guess). It's another wait and see outcome just like Brexit.
 
His name is President Trump and if you are any kind of good American then you should at least show him the respect of saying his name correctly. Just because you have some disagreements with some of his policies doesn't give you the right to drag him through the dirt. If you are not American then you should be doubly reverential given that your government will be meeting him on the WORLD stage and shouting babyish insults to the most powerful man in the world is uncouth. Try not to be so devisive, show some humanity and humility to Donald President Trump. If he makes mistakes then you can vote him out in 4 years time, until then give the man a chance to do his best for you, your country and the world. Apple Pie, Star Spangles Banner and now President Trump let the history books show it.
 
What? It'll sure be very peaceful when Putin decide to annex some more of the former USSR when he feels like it; or China invading Japan over the Senkaku Islands. :nervous:

Still better than funding terrorism everywhere in the middle east. And for the record Crimea is 99.9 % russian and Putin is just defending the interests of his country. Excuse him for not bowing to the warmonging NATO.
 
Still better than funding terrorism everywhere in the middle east. And for the record Crimea is 99.9 % russian and Putin is just defending the interests of his country. Excuse him for not bowing to the warmonging NATO.

What do you think of his pledge to move the American embassy to Jerusalem, effectively recognizing it as the capital of Israel, his promise to roll back the Iranian nuclear deal, and his threat to blow the Iranian navy out of the water the next time they 'taunt' American soldiers in the Gulf?

(Edit): add in torturing 'terrorists', killing their families, and stealing the oil from Iraq and Libya.
 
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