Democracy puts him in that situation. He has a vote and should use to it try and achieve what he thinks is the best outcome for his country.
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Democracy puts him in that situation. He has a vote and should use to it try and achieve what he thinks is the best outcome for his country.
And he has pretty much given a detailed reasoning on why he thinks Hillary Clinton becoming the president isn't the best outcome for his nation.
Well, I would say attacking known terrorists instead of sovereign governments would make a welcome change.
Don't get me wrong, I am not holding him as a beacon of hope by any stretch.
That's from 2007.
Yeah, because Obama did just that didn't he? Bush and Cheney tried their hardest to bomb everywhere they could and if the Republicans had been in charge over the last 8 years I hate to think how many more wars would have been started. They called for military action against Russia when Putin went in to Crimea and Ukraine, they asked for action against North Korea, Iran, more attacks against Iraq and Afghanistan, and Syria and of course Libya too. Then you have to look at the Republicans general view of Israel and Palestine. It's not hard to work out which is the party of war and which is the party of peace. Obama, on a whole was a breath of fresh air for the world after the disasters of Bush and Cheney. I'm sorry if Trump's dangerous and divisive rhetoric about Iran and Israel and Saudi Arabia and ISIS worry the shit out of me, but even if he doesn't do or act like he has said he will, then his party will be pushing him all the time. His replacement Pence will be no better either.
It's not Democracy that put him in that situation, in fact it's the bastardization of Democracy that put him that situation, a bastardization that serves the establishment. Not voting is voting, it's voting against both candidates and if Democracy was respected, he would have won.
Is it not Technically President Elect Trump until Jan20th ?
Supreme court appointments.
A reason to vote for Hillary over Trump, whatever you feel about her.
A reason to vote for Hillary over Trump, whatever you feel about her.
Cant be any more conservative than Scalia
I'd prefer to wait and see. One thing is sure, he won't be Israel's puppet like all of his predecessors.
Totally agree. As for the bolded bit, that is completely correct as well.
Out of curiosity, do the voting forms in US have a NOTA (none of the above) option?
Seriously?
Didn't someone almost 80 years ago thought that Austria was mostly German, etc, etc...
You're assuming Ginsburg will live till at least 87?
Apparently "Drain the swamp" means the likes of Gringich, Gulliani & co in the administration...
Every drone attack under Obama was an attempt to attack a "known terrorist". How would more of the same be a "welcome change"?
Didn't she threaten to leave the country if Trump got elected..
Yeah. They might get to pick 2 .. which could be problematic.
Not voting is not voting. Individual voters can't decide which candidates put themselves forwards for election. How would that work?
I believe that it's not an option.
Yeah, because Obama did just that didn't he? Bush and Cheney tried their hardest to bomb everywhere they could and if the Republicans had been in charge over the last 8 years I hate to think how many more wars would have been started. They called for military action against Russia when Putin went in to Crimea and Ukraine, they asked for action against North Korea, Iran, more attacks against Iraq and Afghanistan, and Syria and of course Libya too. Then you have to look at the Republicans general view of Israel and Palestine. It's not hard to work out which is the party of war and which is the party of peace. Obama, on a whole was a breath of fresh air for the world after the disasters of Bush and Cheney. I'm sorry if Trump's dangerous and divisive rhetoric about Iran and Israel and Saudi Arabia and ISIS worry the shit out of me, but even if he doesn't do or act like he has said he will, then his party will be pushing him all the time. His replacement Pence will be no better either.
No need to be sorry i agree 100%. Bush/Cheney was a disaster. Foreign Policy needs to change massively. More chance with Trump no matter what your views.
If i lived in american than Supreme Judges might have played a role, but my feelings are pretty much Foreign Policy led. Front of the queue with Trump. Back of the queue with Clinton (UK).
Less chance of confrontation with Russia and less chance of further wars in the middle east and North Africa.
Does that include Libya, Syria?
It is voting whether you like it or not, it is. As for your question, Democracy doesn't work on big populations, so we have a system that is morally acceptable but a system that doesn't really allow to represent the majority of the nation.
Just think about the fact that both candidates represents around 1/4 of the electorate, that's far from the majority.
What's your point?
The polarization was already there. He preyed on the fears and anger of people who felt abandoned. These people were lied to by both parties. And here we are.
As for Trump himself, no one really knows how he is going to govern. I suspect he must have half wished he had not won.
But I do know as a nation we must come together. Address the needs of people who voted for him. Not punish them or discard them.
Wherever we come from, people want the same things.
This country has gone through so much. We will rise above this.
Same here.
President-elect Trump looks to me like a troll who said all those things to get the votes from the worst of people. Pence looks like a caveman.
Trump maybe a disaster for foreign policy, Pence will set the world back decades with his archaic views.
not get into sensless wars will not be a disaster for foreign policy. He is an isolationist.
Trump will actually be okay in foreign policy IMO. He'll suck on global warming, and probably in economics too.
It depends what fills that global power vacuum created by an isolationist America. If it means more Russian aggression and expansion in Europe, or the rise of an expansionist China, it will be more bad than good for the world. And mean more war and confrontation in the medium term.
Russia and China want to have their own regional influences. The American people are tired of war and do not want our troops to be the world's policemen.
We'll see about that, we're all speculating here. IMO isolationist policies means letting Russia and China have a free reign over the rest of the world, which will severely weaken the standing of the US, and in turn, the USD. When countries stop using USD to settle commodities, it'll cause a huge problem for the US economy.
And what will the world use now. The Euro or Yuan?
Russia and China having regional influence meaning invading their neighbors, who mostly happen to be US allies... Doing nothing basically tells those countries to fend for themselves, including with nukes (according to the president-elect).
Yea, if China wants to buy oil from the middle east and US influence is limited, they'll settle in RMB.
Apologies, had a typo in it.
Anyway my point was, it is a dud point complaining about Reps holding up Dem legislation or not co-operating (against stuff they are philosophically against). The Dems would've done the same IMO, and should....if they had any power to do anymore (but says a lot that they got out voted in Senate and House too).
If that makes sense.
Russia and China having regional influence meaning invading their neighbors, who mostly happen to be US allies... Doing nothing basically tells those countries to fend for themselves, including with nukes (according to the president-elect).
This is just silly speculation.
China does not want war. Neither does Russia.
He's an isolationist now. Whether that position would change in reaction to events (like a terrorist attack, say) remains to be seen.
I do not want to see American forces killing innocent people around the world as it has done in the past.
Why do you think we have had all these terrorist attacks?
We go to their countries and kill innocent people.
So they come here wanting to take their revenge.
I agree and it's also such a selfish way to think, if you think like that about you're vote then do the decent thing, walk in to that booth and vote for the least hateful person otherwise you validate this disgusting behavior. If you feel that both candidates are unsuitable then you make the decision based on who has the most compassion for you're fellow citizens and more importantly who will do what's right for our kids. Voting a third party when the stakes are as high as this for a portion of the population is foolish. If you feel you had to vote for Trump or just not vote for anyone I would like you to explain you're reasoning to all the kids, minorities and women who have had unwarranted abuse over the last two days.
Government doesn't work for everybody, never has, but a decent and compassionate population is essential for the well being of everybody and the person elected this week doesn't give a shite or he would of been out on day one telling his voters that this is unacceptable.
Russia does not want war, Putin just wants to annex countries of the former USSR.
As for China, when the economy fails, inevitably they turn to nationalism against Japan to take the nation's mind off the issue. They don't want war only if you kowtow to their every demand by rewriting history and allowing them to sea-grab as they please. Have you seen the so called 9-dash line in the South China sea? Do you realize the Senkakus fall neatly in the San Francisco Treaty signed post-WWII? They're trying to change it unilaterally.
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