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These hit and run Trumpers are getting more and more desperate the longer this goes on. In, post something that's easily debunked and then out again, they don't even wait to read the debunking or even bother to argue back anymore. It's actually really quite SAD!

This type of post from a liberal isn't surprising me. You guys are too busy creating bs arguments and avoiding to praise the undisputed POTUS, who is showing his heart and soul by spending his weekend with the simple men, women and children of America. He isn't a member of the establishment and it's bothering y'all. God bless America, God bless our savior Donald Trump.
 
Have just watched 45's speech from yesterday. He is very strong in front of his admirers and this speech will have energised him and his support base. Its a clear move from him; if I was him, I'd stick to this medium to distribute his messages whilst this impasse with the media plays out.

Out of interest, is his interventions on Airforce 1 and the new army jet surely because of his business nous? Surely any administration would have top negotiators to get good prices?

The answer to your question is a bit tricky as per the article below. 45 appears to have exaggerated, surprise, surprise.
http://www.politifact.com/florida/s...-overstates-credit-700-million-savings-f-35s/
 
This type of post from a liberal isn't surprising me. You guys are too busy creating bs arguments and avoiding to praise the undisputed POTUS, who is showing his heart and soul by spending his weekend with the simple men, women and children of America. He isn't a member of the establishment and it's bothering y'all. God bless America, God bless our savior Donald Trump.

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Let me guess, you heard it on 'fair and balanced' FOX so it must be true, right?
You don't remember the ultra-sheepish Obama at the G20 summit during the height of the Ukraine crisis where Cameron was left to carry the fight to Putin alone, or how Crimea seems to currently be in the hands of Russia?

It is sad though not surprising that you fall for 45's lies. More importantly though, 45 is so stupid and full of himself that he doesn't listen to advisers who deserve the name because they are knowledgeable and experienced.
:lol: He doesn't listen to his advisors that's been well documented. He has NO attention span, get's ALL of his information from cable news, mainly Fox, and he ignores or knows better than anyone who tries to tell him things. That's why he got conned allowing Bannon on to the Security Council, because he didn't read what he was signing.

As for the rest, a ten year old could debate him and win. He's a moron, anyone with any intelligence could tie him in knots, and that's the worry. As soon as another World leader stands up to him, what will his reaction be? If it's like his normal petulant and spiteful reactions, then that's not good for anybody.
Well documented by who? You think he's a multi-billionaire by not having the right people in the right places in his company and listening to their expertise? And in that case who will stand up to the leader of the world's only superpower knowing it'll only end up one way for them?

Donald Trump is exactly what America needs right now, and as fate has it exactly what Britain needs.
 
Donald Duck could do the job of US president, the President is just a front, it is what is behind the curtain that counts. Democrats? Republicans? they are just 2 heads of a 2 headed snake. One head has a slightly different taste but the same body is fed. With emphasis on Fed.
 
You don't remember the ultra-sheepish Obama at the G20 summit during the height of the Ukraine crisis where Cameron was left to carry the fight to Putin alone, or how Crimea seems to currently be in the hands of Russia?



Well documented by who? You think he's a multi-billionaire by not having the right people in the right places in his company and listening to their expertise? And in that case who will stand up to the leader of the world's only superpower knowing it'll only end up one way for them?

Donald Trump is exactly what America needs right now, and as fate has it exactly what Britain needs.

Exactly, he managed to put his father into his mother after listening to experts.
 
I wish there were Trump fans who were actually capable of putting together decent arguments. Pretty weak selection on this forum. Not that I expect it's easy to speak on behalf of him.
 
You don't remember the ultra-sheepish Obama at the G20 summit during the height of the Ukraine crisis where Cameron was left to carry the fight to Putin alone, or how Crimea seems to currently be in the hands of Russia?



Well documented by who? You think he's a multi-billionaire by not having the right people in the right places in his company and listening to their expertise? And in that case who will stand up to the leader of the world's only superpower knowing it'll only end up one way for them?

Donald Trump is exactly what America needs right now, and as fate has it exactly what Britain needs.
You think a serial liar, racist, misogynist, hypocrite who wastes American taxes, who needed to get bailed out twice, needs to close casinos and has a history of ripping off small businesses so hard-working simple Americans suffered from it is what the US need? :lol: And you seriously think he'll give UK an advantageous trade deal? :lol::lol: Boy, that's criminally naive.
 
You don't remember the ultra-sheepish Obama at the G20 summit during the height of the Ukraine crisis where Cameron was left to carry the fight to Putin alone, or how Crimea seems to currently be in the hands of Russia?

What exactly did you expect or want him to do? Russia is being highly confrontational, and had already seized Crimea. Any military confrontation could very easily have led to a war between the worlds biggest two nuclear powers. Is that a worthwhile thing to happen? Are you willing to trade nuclear conflict for Crimea? It's very easy to say 'oh but protecting their sovereignty is the right thing to do' but the simple fact is that America is not the worlds policeman, and it does not have the power to make any other nation bend to its will.

Both China and Russia have the strength to resist American military power (or at least ensure that neither side ultimately wins) and because of that American Presidents have to be incredibly careful in how they conduct diplomacy. Obama did what any previous US president post-Cold War would have done, but was faced with a showing of strength by Russia that hasn't been seen since the Cold War ended. The simple truth is that Obama had very little he could do without risking war, and so fell back on the route of sanctions like any other sane person would have done.
 
Donald Duck could do the job of US president, the President is just a front, it is what is behind the curtain that counts. Democrats? Republicans? they are just 2 heads of a 2 headed snake. One head has a slightly different taste but the same body is fed. With emphasis on Fed.

Democrats:
- Americans deserve to have healthcare

Republicans:
- Communist motherfcukers...healthcare is not a right.

Democrats:
- a woman should be free to do what she wants with her body

Republicans:
- Once a woman is pregnant, we shouldn't consider her anything more than a vessel for the unborn

Democrats:
- Who cares who is fecking who...or marrying

Republicans:
- evil heathen, need more bible study

Democrats:
- we need some measure of control over wall street

Republicans:
- No regulation whatsoever - let them do what they want whenever, where ever

Democrats:
- EPA is kind of important, we need some regulation/legislation to protect the environment

Republicans:
- climate change is fake, industrial waste should be a part of your daily intake - close down the EPA


I could keep going...both parties have huge corporate interests, but, they are NOT the same.
 
Democrats:
- Americans deserve to have healthcare

Republicans:
- Communist motherfcukers...healthcare is not a right.

Democrats:
- a woman should be free to do what she wants with her body

Republicans:
- Once a woman is pregnant, we shouldn't consider her anything more than a vessel for the unborn

Democrats:
- Who cares who is fecking who...or marrying

Republicans:
- evil heathen, need more bible study

Democrats:
- we need some measure of control over wall street

Republicans:
- No regulation whatsoever - let them do what they want whenever, where ever

Democrats:
- EPA is kind of important, we need some regulation/legislation to protect the environment

Republicans:
- climate change is fake, industrial waste should be a part of your daily intake - close down the EPA


I could keep going...both parties have huge corporate interests, but, they are NOT the same.
Come on, you know deep down that he's right, and Roger Federer is the king lizard in control of everything. That backhand is evidence enough.
 
How much do you know about Trump's history in business, out of interest?

This @endless_wheelies . You really don't know much about his business background to be taking this line on it. Long story short, he was bailed out multiple times by his father, by the likes of Deutsche Bank giving him bizarre loans from their private division after the public division blacklisted him, by shafting people, from mob ties, from Russian and Chinese shady investment and by pawning off his name after he'd been on television for a while. He's all hot air, like a gold lamé balloon. Seriously, get researching, your mind will be blown by his (verifiable) antics.
 


Firstly where's the debunking of what I said? Is it just the fact that he mentioned specifically last night?
I haven't seen any actual debunking. Granted speaking specifically about "last night" was probably a slip of the tongue and a mistake.

However, knowing what we know about the refugee crisis in Germany, if we factor in that Sweden take in even more refugees it's not so difficult to see that what Trump actually means.
But of course the big picture is always conveniently ignored because of a slip of the tongue referring to last night, while the real issues of the refugee crisis remain untouched by the mainstream media.

Here's some more stuff for you to debunk btw. http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...ats-happening-in-sweden-sweden-asks-wait-what
 
Granted speaking specifically about "last night" was probably a slip of the tongue and a mistake.

#kellyanneconwayism

Sick of having people "interpret" what he says. "What I think he meant by that is"-ism.

I thought the man himself has constantly said "Believe me" and "I mean what I say"?
 
Firstly where's the debunking of what I said? Is it just the fact that he mentioned specifically last night?
I haven't seen any actual debunking. Granted speaking specifically about "last night" was probably a slip of the tongue and a mistake.

However, knowing what we know about the refugee crisis in Germany, if we factor in that Sweden take in even more refugees it's not so difficult to see that what Trump actually means.
But of course the big picture is always conveniently ignored because of a slip of the tongue referring to last night, while the real issues of the refugee crisis remain untouched by the mainstream media.

Here's some more stuff for you to debunk btw. http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...ats-happening-in-sweden-sweden-asks-wait-what

DId you just debunked your own point?
 
Slip of the tongue! :lol: 'just' ! :lol: It totally changes the line, it's entirely made up. 80 lies in 4 weeks from 45 but of course the enemy is the media calling him out, not the Saint. Cute.
 
You don't remember the ultra-sheepish Obama at the G20 summit during the height of the Ukraine crisis where Cameron was left to carry the fight to Putin alone, or how Crimea seems to currently be in the hands of Russia?



Well documented by who? You think he's a multi-billionaire by not having the right people in the right places in his company and listening to their expertise? And in that case who will stand up to the leader of the world's only superpower knowing it'll only end up one way for them?

Donald Trump is exactly what America needs right now, and as fate has it exactly what Britain needs.

What would you have expected Obama to do at the time ? He obviously wasn't going to go to war with Putin and he did implement sanctions. What other realistic steps should he have taken ?
 
#kellyanneconwayism

Sick of having people "interpret" what he says. "What I think he meant by that is"-ism.

I thought the man himself has constantly said "Believe me" and "I mean what I say"?
So you're even sick of it when people admit that he makes mistakes? Wow!!! You should go get checked :lol::lol::lol:
 
Slip of the tongue! :lol: 'just' ! :lol: It totally changes the line, it's entirely made up. 80 lies in 4 weeks from 45 but of course the enemy is the media calling him out, not the Saint. Cute.
I guess 80 lies in 4 weeks is trending now. Guess Hilarry never lied about anything did she? Does somebody need to compile a list of Obama's lies as well ( I don't know specifics, I'm not THAT fanatical). Obviously people are sooooooooo pissed at Trump there was always going to be those who hung on every small detail from day 1 to try and derail his presidency with every ounce of hate they have. Well boo fecking who, keep crying...
 
What would you have expected Obama to do at the time ? He obviously wasn't going to go to war with Putin and he did implement sanctions. What other realistic steps should he have taken ?

A duel would have been a great idea. Obama wins Russia leave Crimea; Putin wins he keeps Crimea and take Georgia.
 
I guess 80 lies in 4 weeks is trending now. Guess Hilarry never lied about anything did she? Does somebody need to compile a list of Obama's lies as well ( I don't know specifics, I'm not THAT fanatical). Obviously people are sooooooooo pissed at Trump there was always going to be those who hung on every small detail from day 1 to try and derail his presidency with every ounce of hate they have. Well boo fecking who, keep crying...

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So you're even sick of it when people admit that he makes mistakes? Wow!!! You should go get checked :lol::lol::lol:

HE doesn't admit he makes mistakes. He thinks he's perfect. He has full-time interpreters who tell the media what he supposedly has said, and yes, I am sick to the back teeth of interpreters of the Trump Gospel, as if they're divining some hidden meaning from an archaic text. You don't see any problem with a president who thinks he's infallible and smarter than everyone in the world?

I say again: He says "believe me" and "I mean what I say" and that he doesn't make mistakes. What do you think of that?
 
So you're even sick of it when people admit that he makes mistakes? Wow!!! You should go get checked :lol::lol::lol:

Why bother twisting it like that? It doesn't fool anyone, least of all the person you quoted, and just comes across as childish.
 
Classic Trumping.

Whines that liberals aren't treating Trump fairly>>>invents ridiculous reason for Trump having said what they initially denied he'd said>>>HILLARY>>>tells liberals to stop whining.
 
I guess 80 lies in 4 weeks is trending now. Guess Hilarry never lied about anything did she? Does somebody need to compile a list of Obama's lies as well ( I don't know specifics, I'm not THAT fanatical). Obviously people are sooooooooo pissed at Trump there was always going to be those who hung on every small detail from day 1 to try and derail his presidency with every ounce of hate they have. Well boo fecking who, keep crying...

You'll do well to find 4 lies in 80 weeks.

The crybaby in chief is doing a fine job of derailing his own presidency. He doesn't need any help.
 
How exactly is he what Britain needs and good for them?

Because it's time for a change. The establishment has clearly failed both in UK and in America. The result itself is evidence that the majority of people are not happy with the establishment. If that is not clear to you then please refrain from asking anything else.

Typical whataboutism, shift to someone else and avoid the fact he's a compulsive liar.

Are you saying that one should not compare a president to previous ones or to their opponents? Coz that's not logical. That's all politics is. They didn't do that, vote for us and we will do it. Yay!!
 
Are you saying that one should not compare a president to previous ones? Coz that's not logical. That's all politics is. They didn't do that, vote for us and we will do it. Yay!!

:lol: I didn't say that and Hillary was never President, but well done for changing the subject and avoiding reality.

If that is not clear to you then please refrain from asking anything else.


Your attitude and arrogance stinks, if you cant reply without being snarky then please refrain from replying again.
 
All politicians lie and stretch the truth. The difference with Trump is that almost every word out of his mouth is a lie and most of his lies are lies that would take someone maybe a minute to disprove.
 
Why bother twisting it like that? It doesn't fool anyone, least of all the person you quoted, and just comes across as childish.
It does. Coz I, as a trump supporter was willing to admit an interpretation which would be considered acceptable to anti trumpists as well, i.e. that the guy made a mistake. But then I got the reply, "Oh I'm sick of people trying to interpret what trump said" as if it's bad to interpret what someone might be saying. I know it's very difficult for people who take everything literally to accept this. But in this case, it's just the hate for trump that is provoking all these comments.

To you it's childish, to me most of these anti-trump comments are beyond childish, just in case you wondered what my opinion of your comments might be
 
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