The Trump Presidency | Biden Inaugurated

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elnorte said:
You clearly haven't done a shred of reading or research on the subject.

Probably no surprise therefore that you come across as such a staggering ignoramus.

You'd have been a guaranteed additional vote for Trump if you had qualified. Lucky for him he didn't need you.
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I literally learned nothing from your post mate.
Am all ears, and open to have a debate.
I admit I am no huge expert in the issue(s), just my simpleton opinion(s). :)
 
Pogue Mahone said:
You think? Never struck me as someone willing to put his ego aside for the greater good.
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Not the greater good but in business, when you don't know and you need to make it happen, you rely on the ones who can deliver.
I assume he will handle it just like he handles business matters.
 
Member 5225 said:
I literally learned nothing from your post mate.
Am all ears, and open to have a debate.
I admit I am no huge expert in the issue(s), just my simpleton opinion(s). :)
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Let me ask you this? Do you think anyone's business should be going under in the gambling industry of all things? You know, one where the house always wins?

Seriously. That's all I have time for here.. Google is your friend.
 
Danillaco said:
Can I ask you why is this showing up right now?

I mean, I get that people think that it's unfair, because you don't get vote, you get the number of votes of the college. But this method is being used since 1780s and the outrage is huge, seems that things were changed to screw the Democrats.
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It's not just showing up now. I even posted about it on redcafe last year when people were talking about the Blue Wall of the electoral college.

https://www.redcafe.net/threads/2016-us-presidential-elections-trump-wins.403345/#post-17344057
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Even if you can't pick up the obvious clues from watching him "debate", his biographer has already confirmed he's a half-wit with the attention span of a two year old.
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brilliant article. Fits perfectly. So many things to highlight:

But, as he noted in the journal a few days later, “the book will be far more successful if Trump is a sympathetic character—even weirdly sympathetic—than if he is just hateful or, worse yet, a one-dimensional blowhard.”
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Schwartz says of Trump, “He lied strategically. He had a complete lack of conscience about it.” Since most people are “constrained by the truth,” Trump’s indifference to it “gave him a strange advantage.”
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Whenever “the thin veneer of Trump’s vanity is challenged,” Schwartz says, he overreacts—not an ideal quality in a head of state.
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Schwartz also tried to avoid the strong whiff of cronyism that hovered over some deals. In his 1986 journal, he describes what a challenge it was to “put his best foot forward” in writing about one of Trump’s first triumphs: his development, starting in 1975, of the Grand Hyatt Hotel, on the site of the former Commodore Hotel, next to Grand Central Terminal. In order to afford the hotel, Trump required an extremely large tax abatement. Richard Ravitch, who was then in charge of the agency that had the authority to grant such tax breaks to developers, recalls that he declined to grant the abatement, and Trump got “so unpleasant I had to tell him to get out.” Trump got it anyway, largely because key city officials had received years of donations from his father, Fred Trump, who was a major real-estate developer in Queens. Wayne Barrett, whose reporting for the Voice informed his definitive 1991 book, “Trump: The Deals and the Downfall,” says, “It was all Fred’s political connections that created the abatement.” In addition, Trump snookered rivals into believing that he had an exclusive option from the city on the project, when he didn’t. Trump also deceived his partner in the deal, Jay Pritzker, the head of the Hyatt Hotel chain. Pritzker had rejected an unfavorable term proposed by Trump, but at the closing Trump forced it through, knowing that Pritzker was on a mountain in Nepal and could not be reached. Schwartz wrote in his journal that “almost everything” about the hotel deal had “an immoral cast.” But as the ghostwriter he was “trying hard to find my way around” behavior that he considered “if not reprehensible, at least morally questionable.”
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As far as Schwartz could tell, Trump spent very little time with his family and had no close friends. In “The Art of the Deal,” Trump describes Roy Cohn, his personal lawyer, in the warmest terms, calling him “the sort of guy who’d be there at your hospital bed . . . literally standing by you to the death.” Cohn, who in the fifties assisted Senator Joseph McCarthy in his vicious crusade against Communism, was closeted. He felt abandoned by Trump when he became fatally ill from AIDS, and said, “Donald pisses ice water.” Schwartz says of Trump, “He’d like people when they were helpful, and turn on them when they weren’t. It wasn’t personal. He’s a transactional man—it was all about what you could do for him.”
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ut when Barrett investigated he found that Trump’s father was instrumental in his son’s rise, financially and politically.
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fishfingers15 said:
Trump names his son in law and his three children to the executive committee of his transition team. Also names Pam Bondi, Peter Thiel and Bannon
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Oh but don't worry because he's so intelligent isn't he? Obviously, because he has the best words and all that. For fecks sake. His cabinet will be like the FBI's most wanted list by the time he's finished with it. A list of the most abysmally unqualified, hated, and moronic feckwits in the whole of the USA.

What a great time to be a stand up comedian or TV show host though, or satirist 4 years of the absolute best material guaranteed, in fact you will probably have an overload of material.
 
langster said:
Oh but don't worry because he's so intelligent isn't he? Obviously, because he has the best words and all that. For fecks sake. His cabinet will be like the FBI's most wanted list by the time he's finished with it. A list of the most abysmally unqualified, hated, and moronic feckwits in the whole of the USA.

What a great time to be a stand up comedian or TV show host though, or satirist 4 years of the absolute best material guaranteed, in fact you will probably have an overload of material.
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:lol: tell us how you really feel!

Do people want him to surround himself with WashingtonDC insiders and people that 'know the game' - or a fresh bunch?
 
adexkola said:
How are Christie and Giuliani and Thiel "fresh"?
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No...I get it, they're not. They are from the establishment to help him manouver around WashingtonDC considering he is an outsider and not familiar.
What is the correct answer is my question: established WashingtonDC insiders (Christie, Guiliani, etc) vs totally fresh outsiders (his kids, business advisors, etc)?
 
Member 5225 said:
:lol: tell us how you really feel!

Do people want him to surround himself with WashingtonDC insiders and people that 'know the game' - or a fresh bunch?
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:lol:

Fresh bunch as 4 immediate relatives, Breitbart CEO and an AG whom he made illegal contributions? Oh yes, Fresh bunch indeed.

You have a point about giving Trump sometime, but his transition team make up doesn't really bode well. Like how you say you have no skin in the game, I'm relatively well off. My income level is reasonably high and under a Republican government, it's quite possible that I pay less taxes and immigration reforms doesn't affect me anyway as I'm an Indian immigrant who qualifies for specialized manager GC etc. I'm not under any immediate threat with Trump so I can afford to give him time. But things like climate change are delicate and he can really feck it up with embracing fossil fuels and undoing the progress made in France earlier this year.
 
fishfingers15 said:
:lol:

Fresh bunch as 4 immediate relatives, Breitbart CEO and an AG whom he made illegal contributions? Oh yes, Fresh bunch indeed.

You have a point about giving Trump sometime, but his transition team make up doesn't really bode well. Like how you say you have no skin in the game, I'm relatively well off. My income level is reasonably high and under a Republican government, it's quite possible that I pay less taxes and immigration reforms doesn't affect me anyway as I'm an Indian immigrant who qualifies for specialized manager GC etc. I'm not under any immediate threat with Trump so I can afford to give him time. But things like climate change are delicate and he can really feck it up with embracing fossil fuels and undoing the progress made in France earlier this year.
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Same question for you:

Member 5225 said:
No...I get it, they're not. They are from the establishment to help him manouver around WashingtonDC considering he is an outsider and not familiar.
What is the correct answer is my question: established WashingtonDC insiders (Christie, Guiliani, etc) vs totally fresh outsiders (his kids, business advisors, etc)?
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Pogue Mahone said:
Yeah. That's pretty much our only hope. We're relying on him being a lazy cnut, who doesn't care enough about anything to try and get actively involved. Depressing state of affairs really.
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I think it's a lose lose, because when you give extra power to a Randian fetishist, stuff like this will happen

 
Member 5225 said:
Do you prefer (for his team) established WashingtonDC insiders vs totally fresh outsiders?
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Who is a total outsider? A potato farmer from Idaho is an outsider. Don't you see any issue with him filling his transition executive committee with his kids? No issues at all? I'm beginning to think you are not a wum, just not a bright chap.
 
fishfingers15 said:
Who is a total outsider? A potato farmer from Idaho is an outsider. Don't you see any issue with him filling his transition executive committee with his kids? No issues at all? I'm beginning to think you are not a wum, just not a bright chap.
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Hold on, hold on....so unknown (to him) potato farmers > his kids?
I don't get it.
 
Apparently Obama incepted him during their 90 minute meeting yesterday. Oh and he also spoke to Bill Clinton by phone. I have a sneaking suspicion those two are up to something.

Next thing that won't happen is the wall and mass deportations.

At that point the triumvirate of right wing policies the alt-right and conservative media hailed him for will be in tatters - a mere 90 days before he even becomes President.
 
Donald Trump, February 2016 "I want to keep pre-existing conditions. I think we need it. I think it’s a modern age. And I think we have to have it."
 
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