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What does this even mean ?
Despise that man almost as much as Trump. Possibly even more. On a par with Piers Morgan at least.
"Un-American Activities". lol.
Independent reporting today that, he will make Steve Bannon Chief of Staff?
The Yanks on this forum have my sympathies.
Independent reporting today that, he will make Steve Bannon Chief of Staff?
The Yanks on this forum have my sympathies.
A fecking arsehole of the highest degree, and very depressing to see him telling everyone we should just 'get on with it' when he's not the type of person who's going to be in any way negatively affected by a Trump presidency.
Harry Reid congratulates Donald Trump on his victory....
http://www.reid.senate.gov/press_re...-on-the-election-of-donald-trump#.WCX5zeErIUF
Reid Statement on the Election of Donald Trump
November 11, 2016 | Press Releases
Washington, D.C. – Nevada Senator Harry Reid released the following statement about the election of Donald Trump as the 45th president of the United States:
“I have personally been on the ballot in Nevada for 26 elections and I have never seen anything like the reaction to the election completed last Tuesday. The election of Donald Trump has emboldened the forces of hate and bigotry in America.
“White nationalists, Vladimir Putin and ISIS are celebrating Donald Trump’s victory, while innocent, law-abiding Americans are wracked with fear – especially African Americans, Hispanic Americans, Muslim Americans, LGBT Americans and Asian Americans. Watching white nationalists celebrate while innocent Americans cry tears of fear does not feel like America.
“I have heard more stories in the past 48 hours of Americans living in fear of their own government and their fellow Americans than I can remember hearing in five decades in politics. Hispanic Americans who fear their families will be torn apart, African Americans being heckled on the street, Muslim Americans afraid to wear a headscarf, gay and lesbian couples having slurs hurled at them and feeling afraid to walk down the street holding hands. American children waking up in the middle of the night crying, terrified that Trump will take their parents away. Young girls unable to understand why a man who brags about sexually assaulting women has been elected president.
“I have a large family. I have one daughter and twelve granddaughters. The texts, emails and phone calls I have received from them have been filled with fear – fear for themselves, fear for their Hispanic and African American friends, for their Muslim and Jewish friends, for their LBGT friends, for their Asian friends. I’ve felt their tears and I’ve felt their fear.
“We as a nation must find a way to move forward without consigning those who Trump has threatened to the shadows. Their fear is entirely rational, because Donald Trump has talked openly about doing terrible things to them. Every news piece that breathlessly obsesses over inauguration preparations compounds their fear by normalizing a man who has threatened to tear families apart, who has bragged about sexually assaulting women and who has directed crowds of thousands to intimidate reporters and assault African Americans. Their fear is legitimate and we must refuse to let it fall through the cracks between the fluff pieces.
“If this is going to be a time of healing, we must first put the responsibility for healing where it belongs: at the feet of Donald Trump, a sexual predator who lost the popular vote and fueled his campaign with bigotry and hate. Winning the electoral college does not absolve Trump of the grave sins he committed against millions of Americans. Donald Trump may not possess the capacity to assuage those fears, but he owes it to this nation to try.
“If Trump wants to roll back the tide of hate he unleashed, he has a tremendous amount of work to do and he must begin immediately.”
http://www.reid.senate.gov/press_re...-on-the-election-of-donald-trump#.WCX5zeErIUF
Reid Statement on the Election of Donald Trump
November 11, 2016 | Press Releases
Washington, D.C. – Nevada Senator Harry Reid released the following statement about the election of Donald Trump as the 45th president of the United States:
“I have personally been on the ballot in Nevada for 26 elections and I have never seen anything like the reaction to the election completed last Tuesday. The election of Donald Trump has emboldened the forces of hate and bigotry in America.
“White nationalists, Vladimir Putin and ISIS are celebrating Donald Trump’s victory, while innocent, law-abiding Americans are wracked with fear – especially African Americans, Hispanic Americans, Muslim Americans, LGBT Americans and Asian Americans. Watching white nationalists celebrate while innocent Americans cry tears of fear does not feel like America.
“I have heard more stories in the past 48 hours of Americans living in fear of their own government and their fellow Americans than I can remember hearing in five decades in politics. Hispanic Americans who fear their families will be torn apart, African Americans being heckled on the street, Muslim Americans afraid to wear a headscarf, gay and lesbian couples having slurs hurled at them and feeling afraid to walk down the street holding hands. American children waking up in the middle of the night crying, terrified that Trump will take their parents away. Young girls unable to understand why a man who brags about sexually assaulting women has been elected president.
“I have a large family. I have one daughter and twelve granddaughters. The texts, emails and phone calls I have received from them have been filled with fear – fear for themselves, fear for their Hispanic and African American friends, for their Muslim and Jewish friends, for their LBGT friends, for their Asian friends. I’ve felt their tears and I’ve felt their fear.
“We as a nation must find a way to move forward without consigning those who Trump has threatened to the shadows. Their fear is entirely rational, because Donald Trump has talked openly about doing terrible things to them. Every news piece that breathlessly obsesses over inauguration preparations compounds their fear by normalizing a man who has threatened to tear families apart, who has bragged about sexually assaulting women and who has directed crowds of thousands to intimidate reporters and assault African Americans. Their fear is legitimate and we must refuse to let it fall through the cracks between the fluff pieces.
“If this is going to be a time of healing, we must first put the responsibility for healing where it belongs: at the feet of Donald Trump, a sexual predator who lost the popular vote and fueled his campaign with bigotry and hate. Winning the electoral college does not absolve Trump of the grave sins he committed against millions of Americans. Donald Trump may not possess the capacity to assuage those fears, but he owes it to this nation to try.
“If Trump wants to roll back the tide of hate he unleashed, he has a tremendous amount of work to do and he must begin immediately.”
Not so much given that Clinton won the popular vote and the LA Times poll had Trump up by 3.
The real home run would be to find public polls that had Trump up by a couple of points in PA, WI, and MI just before election day.
so helpful from Reid.
strange I did not see too many state polls closer to the elections.
I suppose they just could not get enough data.
The Election could easily have gone to Hillary marginally. The jaw dropping result for me was PA.
To a lesser extent WI which I understand she did not even visit.
Apart from predicting Trump to win the popular vote, sure, they did great.
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/president
interesting to see how close the swing states were.
he blew her away in OH.
but see how close it was in PA,WI and MI (still not final but wont make a difference ).
interesting to see how close the swing states were.
he blew her away in OH.
but see how close it was in PA,WI and MI (still not final but wont make a difference ).
Closest nationally may end up being... Rasmussen 
Clinton +2 in their final.
Clinton +2 in their final.So you're just assuming that I'm a white racist male because I don't agree with protesters who protest the outcome of a democratic election?
I don't care if the president is a man, woman, white, black, or orange for that matter. Trump is far from being my choice for president, but the people have spoken and I can respect that.
The PA one did surprise me because both of them had ties to the state and PA always goes blue in the end. they voted GOP in 1988 last.
So much for the Obama charm offensive.
What ill-judged remarks from a practiced politician. Reid must know how thin-skinned Trump is, and how intemperately he reacts to personal criticism, yet he goes out of his way to alienate him, and ensure that Trump regards him as an enemy.
I think there was a Trafalgar Group set of polls that leaned Trump in the final days, that everyone mocked at the time, that may have been pretty close.
No, they were 3.5 points off.
Obama has not done anything wrong since the election. In fact he has reached out to Trump to assure him he is there for him. And Trump called him a very good man and he will be seeking his council.
Reid has retired and throwing fuel on a fire is hardly helpful.
Then he shouldn't be President, then. He's in a big boy job now...where not everyone's going to like him and agree with him, and where some people are going to actively disagree with him and seek to undermine what he does. That's something all political leaders have to deal with, and if Trump can't, then we're in for a long 4-8 years. No one should be forced to tiptoe around the President because he's a manchild.
I was always puzzled by this one poll showing Trump ahead when all the other national ones had Hillary up.
I did not look at the points.
Still no one not Trump nor Hillary nor anyone else expected this.
Probabaly the greatest shock in Election history.
Reid's leaving the Senate at the end of the current session.
I am not sure how many did, but back in 2000 there were some pundits/pollsters predicting a split between the popular vote and electoral vote. The few I read about back then, that I remember anyways, were predicting it the other way around though, Gore with the electoral win and Bush with the popular vote win. Again, lost track over time who it was, how many, maybe it was just one guy.
Yes, that's what I'm saying.
But he is President. If I were a top Democrat in Washington, I'd be hoping to exploit Trump's less than fully formed political identity. He's taken liberal positions in the past on some issues, and I'd be buddying up to him and employing persuasion rather than insult and confrontation. After all the politics of populist opportunists are not set in stone.
Trump won PA by one percent - Trafalgar Group nailed it.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...rump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-5964.html
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...rump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-5964.html
Trump won MI by .3 percent - Trafalgar Group nailed it again
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...rump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-6008.html
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...rump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-6008.html
Looks like they did what the PPP polls did for the 2012 elections.
People better study their methodology.
All hail the Trafalgar Group
Trump won NC by 3.8
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...arolina_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson-5951.html
Trump won NC by 3.8
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...arolina_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson-5951.html
Spot on.
As is this article.
https://newrepublic.com/article/138680/media-blew-election-now-theyre-blowing-transition-trump
I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
Don't you like clear eyed, broad shouldered public policy ?
Boris Johnson and Mike Pence feck me
He's changed his opinions to whatever suits his own agenda - now he's in a proper position of power and has the Republicans on his side, he has no need to pander or listen to Democrats.
If there's an issue on which the Dems agree with him, then sure, don't be obstructive for the sake of it, but the opposition should absolutely be making clear the fact that they don't like this man, don't agree with his views or with his abhorrent personality, and that they're going to do everything to hold him to account and represent the majority of Americans who did not want him at all to be in this position.
Looking at individual polls makes little sense, because there are so many and nobody can credibly claim to know which one is getting it right. So the more rational approach is to look at these aggregated models that various different people/groups create.
Logic dictates, that the bigger the uncertainty is (depends at least to some extend on time), the closer should the model oscillate around the 50% line for each candidate. Consequently, when you are early in the election-cycle, swings should be smaller as well. It would be interesting to review the output of all these different models and look which one follow these basic ideas. Probably non, which should tell us something about these models……
Logic dictates, that the bigger the uncertainty is (depends at least to some extend on time), the closer should the model oscillate around the 50% line for each candidate. Consequently, when you are early in the election-cycle, swings should be smaller as well. It would be interesting to review the output of all these different models and look which one follow these basic ideas. Probably non, which should tell us something about these models……
Yeah, I find this whole sudden "moderate Trump" thing a bit cringey from people who are really hoping it's true. He's come out with a positive tone because he's happy since he's assumed more power and has gotten exactly what he's wanted. He has no reason to be hostile to Obama, or to Clinton, because he's beaten the two of them now, and they're no longer his concern.
Who he will be hostile to, though, is the people in government who disagree with him, the citizens of his country he's repeatedly said he either doesn't like or wants to get rid of, and just about anyone who pisses him off or calls him out for the pathetic excuse of a human he is. And it's up to the media to hold him to account for that, and if his Presidency is a farce, then that should also be highlighted. What shouldn't happen is this weird sudden change in tone where people think he needlessly acted like a complete cock during his campaign, undermining himself on multiple occasions, for...eh, the sake of it?
As it should be and the Democrats should do the same....oh wait, they don't any of the other branches of power either....wonder why...?! #SoArrogant #SoOutofTouch
They did few State polls this time.
Though I did remember one they did for Florida some months back where they had Trump winning.
EDIT:
I was remebering an earlier poll. The last one had Hillary winning comfortably.
Strange.
That's quite an accusation. I am merely using facts to make a point or attempting to discredit yours (and others).
Opinions that are stated as facts wind me up: 'oh the world is going to blow up now' 'he's a buffoon who'll start WW3 by accident' etc etc
and your 'he's such a thicko' - ummm sorry, whatever your opinion, he has a net worth others can only dream of, and he's become the most powerful man on the planet (albeit in waiting).
Let's not let the facts get in the way.
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