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Anyone seen a thing called 'Hillary's America: The Secret History of the Democratic Party'?

I'm only ten minutes in and already it's amazing.
 
Isn't he just putting his own people in the firing line of terrorist attacks with these policies? Any American working abroad will become a sitting target.
 
I fecking despair. In a weird way, my anger isn't at Trump or his supporters. My anger is at progressives who stayed at home or voted for a third party and allowed this disaster. This is on you.
 
Isn't he just putting his own people in the firing line of terrorist attacks with these policies? Any American working abroad will become a sitting target.

They're already targets though. Doubt it'll make much of a difference there.
 
"About 500,000 Jews live in about 140 settlements built since Israel's 1967 occupation of the West Bank and East Jerusalem.

The settlements are considered illegal under international law, although Israel disputes this.

Most of the new homes approved on Tuesday will be built in existing West Bank settlement blocs, including 902 in Ariel and 652 in Givat Zeev.

One hundred will be constructed in Beit El, a settlement near Ramallah that reportedly has received funding from a foundation run by the family of Mr Trump's son-in-law and senior adviser, Jared Kushner.


Following the announcement, Mr Netanyahu declared on Twitter: "We are building - and continuing to build."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-38740712

There's a good breakdown of the Kushner Foundation's donations to Israeli institutions and organizations here - http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.757068 . According to this - https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...d324840106c_story.html?utm_term=.91e674df3d20 - donations to institutions located in the West Bank amounted to $58,500 of a total of $8.5 million donated over a three year period.
 
"About 500,000 Jews live in about 140 settlements built since Israel's 1967 occupation of the West Bank and East Jerusalem.

The settlements are considered illegal under international law, although Israel disputes this.

Most of the new homes approved on Tuesday will be built in existing West Bank settlement blocs, including 902 in Ariel and 652 in Givat Zeev.

One hundred will be constructed in Beit El, a settlement near Ramallah that reportedly has received funding from a foundation run by the family of Mr Trump's son-in-law and senior adviser, Jared Kushner.


Following the announcement, Mr Netanyahu declared on Twitter: "We are building - and continuing to build."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-38740712

That's absolutely sickening, but unfortunately unsurprising given he wants stronger relations with Israel and wants to move the embassy to Jerusalem. I wonder how Steve Bannon is taking stuff like this seeing as he's so anti-Semitic? That's yet another hugely scary aspect of the Trump cabinet, especially his closest advisors. It all spells doom and gloom, and yet again more people suffer. It's sickening and depressing and I'm really getting tired of it all.
 
They've got a lot to answer for. That's for damn sure.
The same thing has happened here. I voted to stay, so have a right to moan as I don't agree with the Brexit outcome. If the ones who voted to leave don't get what they wanted they have a right to moan. The ones who sat on their arses at home don't like things, they have no right to moan.
 
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The person that takes on the most responsibly for Trump(Barring Trump himself, for being such a arse)is Hilary Clinton. She won the popularity vote but lost overall because she and her team couldn't be arse to show up in certain states.
 
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The person that takes on the most responsibly for Trump(Barring Trump himself, for being such a arse)is Hilary Clinton. She won the popularity vote but lost overall because she and her team couldn't be arse to show up in certain states.

Already debunked, but sure, go ahead.
 
I fecking despair. In a weird way, my anger isn't at Trump or his supporters. My anger is at progressives who stayed at home or voted for a third party and allowed this disaster. This is on you.

No, it's not. Don't be ridiculous.
 

It's been talked to death here. Go to the 'what now for Hillary' or 'dem in oppo' threads to have a read.

Long story short, there's no correlation between time and resources spent on states and the final outcome. She spent a feck ton of time in OH and PA and lost both states, OH by YUGE margin.

Late deciders broke heavily for Trump (Hint: Comey). She matched or overperformed her polling average a bit in WI/PA/MI:
 
Yep, it takes a special kind of politician to lose to Donald Trump.
Hold on Kentonio are you saying ''I'm with Her'' might have been a bad political slogan to run on.



It's been talked to death here. Go to the 'what now for Hillary' or 'dem in oppo' threads to have a read.

Long story short, there's no correlation between time and resources spent on states and the final outcome. She spent a feck ton of time in OH and PA and lost both states, OH by YUGE margin.

Late deciders broke heavily for Trump (Hint: Comey). She matched or overperformed her polling average a bit in WI/PA/MI:
Well ok I'll provide something then - https://www.jacobinmag.com/2016/11/clinton-campaign-gotv-unions-voters-rust-belt/

If people are going to start blaming others for Trump, how about we start with the person and the political machine that was running against him.
 
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Late deciders broke heavily for Trump (Hint: Comey). She matched or overperformed her polling average a bit in WI/PA/MI:

Her polling average was embarrassing and dismal, so matching it isn't any great achievement. Blaming Comey is also pretty ridiculous. No Democratic candidate should have been anywhere CLOSE to those kind of fine margins against a 'man' like Trump. They could have run basically anyone else, and it would have been a walkover. No, but instead they had to run the one person in America who would not only rile up the Republican base to swallow their disgust for Trump but who also was guaranteed to depress the Democratic vote.

Just to add insult to injury, everyone knew this! Half the Democratic party spent the year long primary going 'Please god don't do this!' but no, the Dem establishment knew best..
 
Her polling average was embarrassing and dismal, so matching it isn't any great achievement. Blaming Comey is also pretty ridiculous. No Democratic candidate should have been anywhere CLOSE to those kind of fine margins against a 'man' like Trump.

Nope and nope. See Kerry 2004/Gore 2000.

I'm not saying she did well (surprised), but it's not the clusterfeck that's being portrayed. That letter didn't come out and she would most likely win by 1-2% in all those states, inc. Florida, which just about match Obama 2012 margin.


I know how to think for myself, thank you very much. As a communist myself, jacobinmag can do one.
 
Nope and nope. See Kerry 2004/Gore 2000.

I'm not saying she did well (surprised), but it's not the clusterfeck that's being portrayed. That letter didn't come out and she would most likely win by 1-2% in all those states, inc. Florida, which just about match Obama 2012 margin.



I know how to think for myself, thank you very much. As a communist myself, jacobinmag can do one.

There's a lot of specific examples in that article...
 
Nope and nope. See Kerry 2004/Gore 2000.

I'm not saying she did well (surprised), but it's not the clusterfeck that's being portrayed. That letter didn't come out and she would most likely win by 1-2% in all those states, inc. Florida, which just about match Obama 2012 margin.

You can't compare her to Kerry/Gore because they were both running against an actual politician, not an openly racist moron who was caught on tape talking about sexually assaulting women, and who had publicly offended basically every demographic in America other than white men who didn't care about any other demographic. You know how really, really hard it is to lose against someone like that? It takes special skill.

The real evidence against Hillary was in her negatives, and it was openly available for all to see long before she won the primary.
 
I fecking despair. In a weird way, my anger isn't at Trump or his supporters. My anger is at progressives who stayed at home or voted for a third party and allowed this disaster. This is on you.

Florida was a keystate in which the third party vote helped swing the pendulum in Donald's favour wasn't it?

One of my friends on Facebook who lives there, was proudly claiming how she couldn't bear to vote for Killary, and will be voting for Jill Stein instead, then a few of her friends were happily agreeing with her, what a joke.

Anyone seen a thing called 'Hillary's America: The Secret History of the Democratic Party'?

I'm only ten minutes in and already it's amazing.

Where is this available?
 
With Donald Trump set to announce a supreme court nomination “sometime next week”, three names have risen to the top of his list, according to multiple reports.

Trump’s reported top picks – Neil Gorsuch, Thomas Hardiman and Bill Pryor – are all federal appeals court judges appointed by George W Bush, with strong conservative credentials. Their collective views have ranged from supporting “religious liberty” exemptions for employers who object to covering contraception under healthcare plans, to support for a rollback of abortion rights.
 
Yes, really.

The only people responsible for Trump coming into power are the people who voted for Trump. Blaming people who exercised their democratic right by voting for who they wanted or not at all is stupid.

Nowhere near as stupid as failing to grasp that in a two horse race doing anything other than voting for Clinton was helping Trump to win.

You can argue the toss about the semantics of the word "blame" all day but any American who had a vote but failed to use it in the only way that could prevent Trump becoming president can feel partly responsible for this outcome.
 
Nowhere near as stupid as failing to grasp that in a two horse race doing anything other than voting for Clinton was helping Trump to win.

I'm sure they grasped it alright. Why vote for people you don't want to when the process allows you to abstain? That is precisely why that option is there.
 
I'm watching it on some illegal (I assume) stream. I'm guessing I shouldn't post that in here. Can PM, if you want?

Thus far (about 45 minutes in now) it's equally hilarious and offensive.
It's tracking at 4% on Rotten Tomatoes. Is it a comedy?
 
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