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I'll just leave GWB and his efforts as evidence that wanting does not equate to doing in this field.
If GWB had his way the ports would have been controlled by a foreign government and SS would have been wiped out in 2008 due to privatization. The checks and balances should handle a Pence presidency fairly handy, with trump they are useless as has been shown over the last few weeks.
 
Pence is a typical right wing stick up his ass pussy obsessed smug religious liar. Plenty of them around and they are losing their battles in the courts.

All the courts fall beneath the final judgement of the Supreme Court. A court that over the next 4 years could have 3 or more seats to fill. If a Supreme Court with a clear majority of hardline conservatives is put into place then thats America fecked for the next 20 years. Roe would certainly fall along with many other things that are today taken for granted.
 
I saw the hearing. He said he was "blessed and honoured" to have worked with Sessions in 2015 when they sponsored the bill together.

Fast forward to what he said yesterday





Why would you feel "honoured and blessed" to work with someone whose views you consider a "danger to the country" and has "deeply troubling views?


You're being incredibly naive. Working with a senator to pass a bill is vastly different to not speaking out against someone you consider unfit for major office.
 
This is your problem, you're genuinely obsessed with her. To the extent it's made you a tacit fan of a demagogue.
I fully expect RD to say Hillary would have gotten impeached sooner should Trump get taken down.

I mean, RD went full Trump when Sanders lost with his 'Once he's past the primary, he will pivot to center' and now to 'I'll wait till he signs his first law'. Even Kellyanne Conway says don't judge Trump on what comes out of his mouth but what is in his heart, yet RD here says Trump said there will be repeal and replace of Obamacare on the same day, but the Republicans are the ones destroying it. He'll soon say it's all the fault of the Dems if anything happens to Obamacare. Basically, in his mind, it's the Dems fault for not nominating Sanders. He'll find things 'refreshingly funny' because Trump did something vulgar to someone who he thinks treated Sanders unfairly. At least, we must praise his conviction and belief. He truly believes that this is a better outcome than Hillary Clinton being elected President in spite of Pruitt in charge of EPA, DeVos in charge of education, Tillerson for SoS, Price for Health and Human services, Mnuchin for Treasury, Perry for Energy under Trump. Because, yes Hillary is corrupt and cheated Sanders out of a ticket.

I'm sorry man, you need your head sorted out first.
 
If GWB had his way the ports would have been controlled by a foreign government and SS would have been wiped out in 2008 due to privatization. The checks and balances should handle a Pence presidency fairly handy, with trump they are useless as has been shown over the last few weeks.

I don't see the difference. Trump is historically unpopular (still), and allows the Dems to be on continuous campaign mode and stall. Pence would come in saying bullshit about unity and working together and appear more presidential, it would be harder to oppose him in public like is happening now.
On most policy issues they will be the same (though Trump can be pressured more on things like insurance and soc sec). SCOTUS is fecked in both cases. On foreign policy I'm a little scared of how the current hawkish Dems will team up with the chickenhawk GOP about Russia if Trump is removed because of a Russian issue - it won't be pretty. On Iran, etc. Trump and the GOP are on the same page. On Syria, the GOP and mainstream Dems support, indirectly, ISIS.
So, choose your poison basically.
 
Pence and his Republican buddies are going to be in control either way. If you think Trump's actually going to stop them from doing anything particularly damaging or bad out of some vague sense of a moral compass he doesn't have then you're being delusional.

The best thing I think we can hope for is a Trump impeachment which compels Trump to turn against the Republicans completely for the next few years, taking some of his 'anti-establishment'(:lol:) types with him. He either runs again in 2020 or puts a proxy in and decimates the Republicans chances by getting, say, 10%.

The Republicans will get what they want under Trump, be it their own choice for the Supreme Court, dismantling social security and healthcare and the rest of it.
 
I mean, RD went full Trump when Sanders lost with his 'Once he's past the primary, he will pivot to center' and now to 'I'll wait till he signs his first law'. Even Kellyanne Conway says don't judge Trump on what comes out of his mouth but what is in his heart, yet RD here says Trump said there will be repeal and replace of Obamacare on the same day, but the Republicans are the ones destroying it. He'll soon say it's all the fault of the Dems if anything happens to Obamacare. Basically, in his mind, it's the Dems fault for not nominating Sanders. He'll find things 'refreshingly funny' because Trump did something vulgar to someone who he thinks treated Sanders unfairly. At least, we must praise his conviction and belief. He truly believes that this is a better outcome than Hillary Clinton being elected President in spite of Pruitt in charge of EPA, DeVos in charge of education, Tillerson for SoS, Price for Health and Human services, Mnuchin for Treasury, Perry for Energy under Trump. Because, yes Hillary is corrupt and cheated Sanders out of a ticket.

I'm sorry man, you need your head sorted out first.
Let's not forget these classic RD posts from the past week alone.

It was a contest between the most hated candidate in history (Trump) and the Most Distrusted candidate in history ( Hillary)
Hillary would have won if she had a positive message. Instead she merely demonised Trump.

Even so she would have won if not for so many not voting for her in the Mid-West States.
Trump won by fluke. His margins in several of these key states was very thin.

They will study this election for decades.

Only if I agreed Hillary would be a better option.
I'm no longer convinced that is so.

What Putin did was leak to the US public what the DNC was doing. Their actions to push the 'anoited one' was now open for all to see.
Americans never trusted Hillary.

Her email fiasco merely confirmed everyone's suspisions of how untrustworthy she was.

Its always about who carries the message.

But people are waking up. I know Trump is a clown but just look. how many people rejected Hillary and the establishment Republicans. I think Trump was the first step in us breaking down the corporate domination.

If Sanders has support from other politicians and significant voices, not just single payer, but college Tuition too will carry.
We should not give up the fight.
 
I mean, RD went full Trump when Sanders lost with his 'Once he's past the primary, he will pivot to center' and now to 'I'll wait till he signs his first law'. Even Kellyanne Conway says don't judge Trump on what comes out of his mouth but what is in his heart, yet RD here says Trump said there will be repeal and replace of Obamacare on the same day, but the Republicans are the ones destroying it. He'll soon say it's all the fault of the Dems if anything happens to Obamacare. Basically, in his mind, it's the Dems fault for not nominating Sanders. He'll find things 'refreshingly funny' because Trump did something vulgar to someone who he thinks treated Sanders unfairly. At least, we must praise his conviction and belief. He truly believes that this is a better outcome than Hillary Clinton being elected President in spite of Pruitt in charge of EPA, DeVos in charge of education, Tillerson for SoS, Price for Health and Human services, Mnuchin for Treasury, Perry for Energy under Trump. Because, yes Hillary is corrupt and cheated Sanders out of a ticket.

I'm sorry man, you need your head sorted out first.

you are so wrong, I dont know where to start.

get your head out of your arse first.
 
you are so wrong, I dont know where to start.

get your head out of your arse first.

On the contrary, it's time for me to put my head into my arse further. I have a reasonable job, insurance provided by employer and I'm in the bracket of household income in the 75K to 125K per year. I'm hoping that my wife will get a job this year. I'm also a Lutheran Christian and a republican government is not going to hurt me personally. I may end up paying lesser taxes and I will tell myself that this is the working of God himself. If hardcore lefties can enjoy a Trump government for the perverse reason that Sanders didn't get selected, I think it is time for my head and arse to be reacquainted.
 
What's the beef with this sex tape business? I haven't been following the story but supposedly the source is very highly regarded and some chap from the BBC was intimating (I think) on Radio 4 this morning that the tape could exist.
 
Mathis speaking to Senate, seems fairly pro-homosexuality in regards to the military, which can only be a positive. Seems like the most decent of Trump's picks.
 
SCOTUS is fecked in both cases

Drumpf would actually be preferable I suppose. Dems have more justification given his unpopularity to stall his nominee for Scalia's seat, so let's say if they can hold out for a year or more, it'll limit the damage a fair bit given the make up of Congress at the moment.

Of course, if the Cheeto Jesus wins re-election in 2020 then all bets are off, same if RBG croaked. We basically have to hope that she holds out for 4 years and Dems sort their shit out in time.
 
What's the beef with this sex tape business? I haven't been following the story but supposedly the source is very highly regarded and some chap from the BBC was intimating (I think) on Radio 4 this morning that the tape could exist.

It's a big piss-take, really.
 
What's the beef with this sex tape business? I haven't been following the story but supposedly the source is very highly regarded and some chap from the BBC was intimating (I think) on Radio 4 this morning that the tape could exist.
Whether or not there is any thing like what was described, who knows, but from what I've seen the idea that Russia has something of great significance to blackmail him with seems to be being taken very seriously by sensible, knowledgeable people.
 
Drumpf would actually be preferable I suppose. Dems have more justification given his unpopularity to stall his nominee for Scalia's seat, so let's say if they can hold out for a year or more, it'll limit the damage a fair bit given the make up of Congress at the moment.

Of course, if the Cheeto Jesus wins re-election in 2020 then all bets are off, same if RBG croaked. We basically have to hope that she holds out for 4 years and Dems sort their shit out in time.

I hope the paedo satanist ring that Hillary runs from a pizza shop is giving RBG the appropriate shamanic medicine and/or pizza to prolong her life.
 
It's a big piss-take, really.

:)

Whether or not there is any thing like what was described, who knows, but from what I've seen the idea that Russia has something of great significance to blackmail him with seems to be being taken very seriously by sensible, knowledgeable people.

Cheers. My dream is that Trump ends up in prison somehow. Hope it happens.
 
Later, I used an intermediary to pass some questions to active duty CIA officers dealing with the case file - they would not speak to me directly. I got a message back that there was "more than one tape", "audio and video", on "more than one date", in "more than one place" - in the Ritz-Carlton in Moscow and also in St Petersburg - and that the material was "of a sexual nature".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38589427#pq=RbIoXb
 
The Democratic party sad to say seems bent on destroying Trump rather than see if they can in some way work with him to help the ordinary citizen.
You mean like the Republicans did with Obama when they had the chance. And still do after he is gone
 
What's the beef with this sex tape business? I haven't been following the story but supposedly the source is very highly regarded and some chap from the BBC was intimating (I think) on Radio 4 this morning that the tape could exist.

The ex MI6 spy is someone whose previous work the Americans consider to be credible, so that's why its being taken seriously.

BBC's Paul Wood claims to have 2 other sources that say there is compromising footage that the Russians hold.

Back in August, a retired spy told me he had been informed of its existence by "the head of an East European intelligence agency".

Later, I used an intermediary to pass some questions to active duty CIA officers dealing with the case file - they would not speak to me directly. I got a message back that there was "more than one tape", "audio and video", on "more than one date", in "more than one place" - in the Ritz-Carlton in Moscow and also in St Petersburg - and that the material was "of a sexual nature"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38589427
 
Where would you like your inauguration Mr Trump?

Next to the Golden Gate Bridge, son. And leave the camera at home this time.
 
Look how quickly this story is developing. Clear now there are separate sources claiming the Russians are in possession of multiple videos.

Think its just a matter of time before the smoking gun footage is leaked.
 
Look how quickly this story is developing. Clear now there are separate sources claiming the Russians are in possession of multiple videos.

Think its just a matter of time before the smoking gun footage is leaked.

Has something new happened this morning ?
 
You're asking me, or in general, or is it rhetorical - because I was merely trying to be helpful to someone who asked a question?

Anyway with W I'd say 'crimes against peace' is perhaps a more fitting category.

I just saw the Rubio link you'd posted where he goes apeshit on Aleppo, conclude Putin is a war criminal, so thought I'd if the same can apply to W.
 
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