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Conservatives proclaim themselves as pro-austerity, balance the budget types. A wall would cost something like $35b to build, which doesn't jive with the conservative agenda to tax less and spend less.
Yeah, it's pure populism.
 
$35b is almost double the NASA budget :lol:
 
Is trump in favor of NASA or he's against? - raising the budget or cut
“Right now, we have bigger problems—you understand that?” Trump told a 10-year-old boy at a campaign event in New Hampshire last November, when the child asked about NASA. “We’ve got to fix our potholes. You know, we don’t exactly have a lot of money.”
 
“Right now, we have bigger problems—you understand that?” Trump told a 10-year-old boy at a campaign event in New Hampshire last November, when the child asked about NASA. “We’ve got to fix our potholes. You know, we don’t exactly have a lot of money.”

Maybe trump should cough up the millions he has avoided paying in his taxes over the decades. That would go some way to pay for some of those potholes.
 
Conservatives proclaim themselves as pro-austerity, balance the budget types. A wall would cost something like $35b to build, which doesn't jive with the conservative agenda to tax less and spend less.

A wall is a damn sight cheaper than the nukes he keeps crapping on about. I think it makes a lot more sense to judge his politics by how he chooses to spend federal money than the fact he chooses to spend it at all.
 
Meh. It's not exactly a revelation and it didn't affect the election anyway.

It most certainly did. Without the leaked emails and overwheming torrent of fake news, Clinton would have romped to victory.

There's abosolutely no question that they successfully damaged confidence in her tipping undecideds towards Trump, protest votes or abstaining.
 
A wall is a damn sight cheaper than the nukes he keeps crapping on about. I think it makes a lot more sense to judge his politics by how he chooses to spend federal money than the fact he chooses to spend it at all.

The real question is if any federal contracts will go to companies they (he or his family) have shares in.
 
Apparently, for expediency sake, America will pay for it now and Mexico will repay America later :lol:

I'm pretty sure his supporters are going to come around to the fact that America will pay for it to keep out the immigrants.
 
It most certainly did. Without the leaked emails and overwheming torrent of fake news, Clinton would have romped to victory.

There's abosolutely no question that they successfully damaged confidence in her tipping undecideds towards Trump, protest votes or abstaining.
The actual reports states it didn't effect the presidency if I'm not mistaken.
 
The actual reports states it didn't effect the presidency if I'm not mistaken.

That's Paul Ryan's opinion. I'm as surprised as you are that he came to this conclusion.
 
It most certainly did. Without the leaked emails and overwheming torrent of fake news, Clinton would have romped to victory.

There's abosolutely no question that they successfully damaged confidence in her tipping undecideds towards Trump, protest votes or abstaining.
Come on that's a bit much. Clinton did in the end romp home with the popular vote, she lost the election for the same reason the Remain side lost in the referendum and why almost every social democratic party in the Western world has lost giant percentages of it's vote - globalisation and the move from Labour capital to Financial capital. It has very little to do with John Podesta emails and ''fake'' news.
 
Apparently, for expediency sake, America will pay for it now and Mexico will repay America later :lol:

I'm pretty sure his supporters are going to come around to the fact that America will pay for it to keep out the immigrants.

For his supporters that's just details. If a wall gets built, no matter who pays for it, it'll be considered as him keeping his promise.

Plus, all the US has to do is pay for it and then withhold that amount of the aid that it normally gives to Mexico. A source I was reading earlier said that the U.S. Government gave a total of $209 million to Mexico in 2012.
 
I hope I can be there in 2046 when the wall is brought down and the segregation and oppression comes to an end.
 
Come on that's a bit much. Clinton did in the end romp home with the popular vote, she lost the election for the same reason the Remain side lost in the referendum and why almost every social democratic party in the Western world has lost giant percentages of it's vote - globalisation and the move from Labour capital to Financial capital. It has very little to do with John Podesta emails and ''fake'' news.
She was constantly on the defensive and her team was unable to get her policy front and center to the lazy electorate.

It doesn't take much to swing:
Wisconsin ~20,000 of ~3,000,000
PA ~ 40,000 of ~6,000,000
Michigan ~ 10,000 of ~5,000,000

So flip 10,000 in Wisconsin from Trump to Clinton and she wins that state etc. Or, get 20,000 more dems out to vote. Or a combination. Insanely tight margins.
 
Don't forget to get a chunk of the wall and mount it in your mantle as a memory of those bad times. I swear we've been here before with a wall...
:lol:Somewhere at home I have a piece of painted concrete that's reportedly from the Berlin wall, bought on my trip there in 1990.
 
Don't forget to get a chunk of the wall and mount it in your mantle as a memory of those bad times. I swear we've been here before with a wall...
Can't remember if it was Laura Ingraham or Ann Coulter that posted a picture of the Berlin Wall saying "proof that walls work" :lol:
 
:lol:Somewhere at home I have a piece of painted concrete that's reportedly from the Berlin wall, bought on my trip there in 1990.

Yeah they were all over the place when I was there last Christmas. It reminds me of the Sir Roger Bannister quote; something like "There were 200 people flanking the finish line as I completed my 4 minute mile and I've met all 4000 of them since"
 
The actual reports states it didn't effect the presidency if I'm not mistaken.

There was no tampering with votes in the report, but that's different than the influence operation designed to discredit Hillary. You can easily surmise that a measly 71k could've gone her way if not for the interference. In fact, about 1m or so could easily gone her way instead of stayed home, which obviously helped Trump.
 
Of course it affected the election. Trump won three states by a total of 71k votes out of at a total 128million votes.
You either beleive the report or you don't. The report states it didn't effect the result.
 
For his supporters that's just details. If a wall gets built, no matter who pays for it, it'll be considered as him keeping his promise.

Plus, all the US has to do is pay for it and then withhold that amount of the aid that it normally gives to Mexico. A source I was reading earlier said that the U.S. Government gave a total of $209 million to Mexico in 2012.
Err.. if true that's 0.x% of what the wall would cost.
 
You either beleive the report or you don't. The report states it didn't effect the result.

The report has no way of knowing whether or not it affected the result. It is an intelligence report not a statistical analysis of how people voted.
 
She was constantly on the defensive and her team was unable to get her policy front and center to the lazy electorate.

It doesn't take much to swing:
Wisconsin ~20,000 of ~3,000,000
PA ~ 40,000 of ~6,000,000
Michigan ~ 10,000 of ~5,000,000

So flip 10,000 in Wisconsin from Trump to Clinton and she wins that state etc. Or, get 20,000 more dems out to vote. Or a combination. Insanely tight margins.
She and her team had tons and tons of money and chose to turned it into(Oddly enough)a reality contest between two personalities. Just take her slogan - I'm With Her, she actively avoided policy. And while we can blame the electorate all we want, barring an Obama like figure these political parties has seen a voter drop off and have not only taken this for granted but have been quite happy to do nothing about it, it's simple sheer incompetence and arrogance to lose the vote by this tiny margin.

The Dems are just another party in a long list that are now facing the consequences of their actions from the past decades(Well mostly the 90's).
 
Drumpf getting seriously trolled by President Fox.



What type of guy was he for Mexico? I literally know nothing about him, so he might as well be another hypocrite crook, but it's impossible not to enjoy those tweets :lol:

You either beleive the report or you don't. The report states it didn't effect the result.

Leaving that aside, surely the bigger problem is that we have the president of Russia, directly involved in trying to influence the democratic process of the United States of America, while the new president of the USA has been openly supporting him. That's just surreal in my book.
 
What type of guy was he for Mexico? I literally know nothing about him, so he might as well be another hypocrite crook, but it's impossible not to enjoy those tweets :lol:



Leaving that aside, surely the bigger problem is that we have the president of Russia, directly trying to influence the democratic process of the United States of America, while the new president of the USA has been openly supporting him. That's just surreal in my book.

He's one of Dubya's old pals from when he was President. He loathes Trump and since he's now retired, has no problem with telling him to feck off on Twitter.
 
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