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And while that's going on, the Moron just carries on as normal as if nothing has happened and he hasn't said anything at all..............

 




And while that's going on, the Moron just carries on as normal as if nothing has happened and he hasn't said anything at all..............


I have no idea why they keep talking about the hacking when that Romanian hacker hacked her computer before the elections then we have a guy with a very important role using the default password p@ssword which I would make sure that guy wouldn't touch on any computer until he does a complete course in basic computer safety. Did the Russians hacked? I'm sure, does the government has any proof? No, they would show all the logs long time ago.
 
I have no idea why they keep talking about the hacking when that Romanian hacker hacked her computer before the elections then we have a guy with a very important role using the default password p@ssword which I would make sure that guy wouldn't touch on any computer until he does a complete course in basic computer safety. Did the Russians hacked? I'm sure, does the government has any proof? No, they would show all the logs long time ago.

You do realise that by declassifying all the evidence, they would also be revealing a lot of details on the scope of their survelience. The hackers could also trace back any logs they have and build a better picture of all the intelligence services cyber thumb prints.
 
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Trump supporters visit the beach.
 
If the Democtrats are interested in getting a plan that covers everyone rather than play politics it can be done. They have to accept that the Republicans can repeal the ACA and will do so.

I think solutions from come from the center too, but I'm taken aback by the common people who support the repeal and delay solution for ACA, even though it may hurt them by costing them insurance. I don't know why, but lots of people are for it. I'm not even talking about Republican politicians, but the common man who are affected by these laws.
 
I think solutions from come from the center too, but I'm taken aback by the common people who support the repeal and delay solution for ACA, even though it may hurt them by costing them insurance. I don't know why, but lots of people are for it. I'm not even talking about Republican politicians, but the common man who are affected by these laws.

most people don't want the Act repealed. They are fed up with rising costs. This is a great opportunity to fix the Act. The Democrats shouldd not play politics...or be Hands off. Also Sanders quoting Trump that Medicare, medcaid and Social Security will not be weakened is helpful.
 
Interesting what he's threatening Toyota with and Ford have already pulled out $1.6 billion of plans out of Mexico. Staying true to some is his word it would seem.
 
I think solutions from come from the center too, but I'm taken aback by the common people who support the repeal and delay solution for ACA, even though it may hurt them by costing them insurance. I don't know why, but lots of people are for it. I'm not even talking about Republican politicians, but the common man who are affected by these laws.

My Sister in Law's-Sister In Law is American and I had a chat with her about this at my Brothers wedding last June. She said that it comes down to pride and a belief in the capitalist's American dream. A lot of them believe that having good health insurance is a symbol of your own success and there is deep rooted beliefs that paying for universal health care is paying for other people's failures and encroaching on communism territory.
 
most people don't want the Act repealed. They are fed up with rising costs. This is a great opportunity to fix the Act. The Democrats shouldd not play politics...or be Hands off. Also Sanders quoting Trump that Medicare, medcaid and Social Security will not be weakened is helpful.

No, I'm not sure that's all there is to it. For instance, Less than 6% of the people who use ACA have rising costs and have to change doctors. Please note, any increase in cost is in this number, so not all of them are paying double. There is definitely some increase in cost due to ACA for some, but that alone shouldn't accoutn for the almost universal call to repeal ACA among the people I've interacted with. One possible explanation is that the campaign run by Republicans on highlighting flaws have been hugely successful and Dems haven't done enough. I've read @Pexbo's post as well, but even car insurance is based on that model, so I'm not sure that explains it either. I don't have a solution for it.

As for your point about Dems shouldn't play politics to fix the act, I'm saying the support for repealing the act now and to figure out a replacement later seems to be hugely popular among the common public and by extension the Republican politicians. Not sure where Dems playing politics comes into play. Literally, people are happy to lose insurance just to see ACA is repealed. This means a single payer system advocated by Sanders will not only be met with opposition with GOP, but the actual public who will use it. He's living in la-la land like Obama if he thinks that free education and healthcare is a citizen right. I agree with him and I think it should be, but I think a majority of Americans in the Red controlled states at least, don't want those reforms for them.

For a long time, I thought it was just GOP and politicians, but it's the actual people. They just don't want it man. I'm happy to be corrected on this, but my trip to west and states like Utah has opened my mind. I also see understand why people need guns. If I was living in Boulder City or any one of those remote Nevada towns, I'd own guns too.
 
If the Democtrats are interested in getting a plan that covers everyone rather than play politics it can be done. They have to accept that the Republicans can repeal the ACA and will do so.
Do you honestly think the gop will take a single piece of input from the Dems? It will be their way or the highway. I think pelosi has already seen the writing on the wall.
 
Interesting what he's threatening Toyota with and Ford have already pulled out $1.6 billion of plans out of Mexico. Staying true to some is his word it would seem.

Perhaps not...
Fields emphasized, however, that the company's decision to cancel a factory already under construction in Mexico was a business decision driven primarily by "a decline in overall demand for small cars."
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...vermont-utility-story/?utm_term=.27b271382bc9

On Friday night, “officials” appeared to have given The Washington Post a perfect scoop for a weekend that would bridge the years 2016 and 2017. “Russian hackers penetrated U.S. electricity grid through a utility in Vermont, officials say,” read the OMG headline on the original story. Even on the sluggish first steps of a holiday weekend, the story hustled its way everywhere. Journalists tweeted it; other outlets pursued it; statements came flying out of officialdom.

It tumbled pretty quickly, too. Though the story didn’t identify the utility that had allegedly been hacked, Burlington Electric came forth with a statement that night noting that there was, in fact, no danger to the electricity grid:

Last night, U.S. utilities were alerted by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) of a malware code used in Grizzly Steppe, the name DHS has applied to a Russian campaign linked to recent hacks. We acted quickly to scan all computers in our system for the malware signature. We detected the malware in a single Burlington Electric Department laptop not connected to our organization’s grid systems. We took immediate action to isolate the laptop and alerted federal officials of this finding. Our team is working with federal officials to trace this malware and prevent any other attempts to infiltrate utility systems. We have briefed state officials and will support the investigation fully.

The threat level fell even further over the following days. Not only was the laptop not connected to the electricity grid, Burlington Electric may not have been targeted at all. In a Jan. 2 story correcting its erroneous initial report, The Post noted, “An employee at Burlington Electric Department was checking his Yahoo email account Friday and triggered an alert indicating that his computer had connected to a suspicious IP address associated by authorities with the Russian hacking operation that infiltrated the Democratic Party.” The whole thing could have been “benign,” the newspaper said.

The original story still features a headline loyal to what those officials originally told The Post: “Russian operation hacked a Vermont utility, showing risk to U.S. electrical grid security, officials say,” reads the current headline on the flawed story. It also carries this editor’s note:

An earlier version of this story incorrectly said that Russian hackers had penetrated the U.S. electric grid. Authorities say there is no indication of that so far. The computer at Burlington Electric that was hacked was not attached to the grid.

So there’s a duel going on at The Post’s website — between a more recent story that features correct information and a more dated one that oversells the hacking threat. The result is a clicky version of Russian roulette: If you choose the wrong version, you get the wrong news.

A number of critics have blasted The Post for its handling of the story, and this blog will forego a laborious reconstruction of the affair.

What stands out about the incident, however, is that the newspaper published its salacious story based on the accounts of the “officials,” though without input from the utility folks. Burlington Electric executive Neale Lunderville told Vermont Public Radio, “It could have easily been corrected, well first, had this federal official not leaked this information inaccurately, and second had the news outlet got in touch with us to confirm it or deny it, and we would have told them, ‘Not so. That’s not the case.’ And they could have printed a correct story the first time around.”

The Erik Wemple Blog today asked top Post officials for interviews on the screw-ups, though we didn’t get any sit-downs. Kris Coratti, a spokeswoman for the paper, issued this statement: “We have corrected the story, prominently displayed the correct information after further reporting, evaluated what transpired, and had the appropriate discussions internally to make sure something similar does not occur again.”

“Again” would be the third time, considering that The Post was forced to publish an editor’s note over a Thanksgiving-weekend story fingering Russia for assisting in the spread of fake news.

The missteps mar an otherwise spectacular run for The Post, which nailed exclusive after exclusive in the presidential campaign. With traffic surging and editorial ranks growing, The Post, you might suppose, would have the self-confidence to sit for an extensive interview about its occasional failings. Apparently not.
 


GOP also doing a bury-bad-news day next week

 
You do realise that by declassifying all the evidence, they would also be revealing a lot of details on the scope of their survelience. The hackers could also trace back any logs they have and build a better picture of all the intelligence services cyber thumb prints.

Nailed it. I dont know why people keep asking for proof.

The very fact that you are asking for it means that you dont know how these things work. So it would be pointless giving these people material to read anyway.

I dont ask a neurosurgeon his training manuals to see if he knows what he is doing.
 
Yeah, I've gone through shock, indignation, morbid curiosity and even finding a little bit of humour in the whole cluster-feck. The closer we get to inauguration the more it all changes to genuine fear and sadness. It really is a nightmare. In every sense.

He won't last a full term, so there's that to look forward to.

I'll be interested to see how it happens too.

He won't have the keys to the mansion taken away from him without some serious toy throwing, so that could be fun.

If he continues undermining the intelligence services and it puts national security at risk, a bullet in the back of the head isn't beyond belief.

If he continues with the conflict of interests or crashing stocks with his tweets, it wouldn't be a surprise to find he's directly colluding with someone and making yuge personal gains from it and ends up in prison.
 
The rumors indicate that GOP wants to tie defunding Planned Parenthood to repealing ACA. When it rains, it pours.
Stuff like this is why I think progressives who thought Trump would be better than Clinton or didn't bother to vote, are quite frankly stupid IMO. I'm sorry to say. This administration is going to reverse all the progress that has been made.
 
About that wall.....Mexico will be paying feck all.



I haven't missed something where the notion of building a giant wall across the Mexican border has become less logistically mental, have I? How the hell will anyone be willing to pay for it?
 
If true, you'd have to say fair play to them. It worked spectacularly well.

This is just the stuff they are allowing to be released to the media. Imagine all the serious classified stuff the CIA have that will be much more incriminating, but the public will never hear about due to protecting the sources.
 
This is just the stuff they are allowing to be released to the media. Imagine all the serious classified stuff the CIA have that will be much more incriminating, but the public will never hear about due to protecting the sources.

Probably pretty depressing around Langley etc at the moment.
 
He is the master of backtracking silently. No idea how he does it.

Its because his supporters are sheep. Mindlessly agreeing and supporting everything he does.

The good news is there's a significant and vocal group of people out there who will keep calling him out when he backtracks or lies on places like social media.
 
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