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It really wasn't. If this was Obama instead of Trump, everyone would have called Acosta disgraceful instead.

Acosta deserved everything he got, and revoking his press pass was totally justified.

As long as people have this type of opinion on things, Trump will continue to get away with what he does
 
Has it ever happened before that a President suspended a journalist like this?
 
It wasn't really a difference of opinion though, was it? It was calling out lies told by the leader of the free world in order to win an election. How is this now the new standard?
It seems with some that you are entitled to both you're opinion and you're alternative facts.
The fact that he called Yamishe Alicindor's question racist when she asked him about the empowering of white nationalism, he is a self confessed nationalist. She said it was a valid question because that day a prominent white nationalist was tweeting about his wonderful day out at the White house.
He came out yesterday with an agenda. Basically ignored the Dems take over of the house and lauded an inconsequential Senate win. Called it a great victory while naming and shaming Republicans that failed to embrace him.
Bottom line is he shouldn't be given an inch and every lie should be questioned and corrected to his ugly face. That is what happened yesterday and all he had to give back were personal insults. Obama has more class in his taco bell squirts then the whole trump family.
 
What are your thoughts on him suspending Acosta's white house access?

Acosta should have had his credentials revoked for a time because he behaved like an ass.

Shouting over the President of the country and disrupting the room, refusing to let the mic go is not the agreed behaviour of all those in the room. If he picked up a 2 week ban for that I don't think anyone would care.

Having said that... I understand why he did it, and I support him doing so. Standing in that room, that often; seeing the truth twisted into lies, facts rendered fiction, it would wind me up. I'd lose my shit. I'd shout and get snarky, I'd call the buffoon a liar to his face and call him on his bullshit. I'd also expect to have my access taken away for doing so.

Actions should have consequences. If America started ensuring that their President had to experience some negative consequences to his despicable actions, we wouldn't need to talk about Acosta.
 
Two things can be be wrong/right at the same time. Trump was clearly out of order yesterday, as he almost always is with the press. But so was Acosta IMO. He pretty much wanted to pick a fight with Trump and get a headline story for his channel. He even started his first question in a weird manner about challenging Trump. Then it would be one thing if he held on to the mike to ask a petinent follow up question but to do so to go off in another tangent all together was not about standing up for noble principles of free press but about riling up Trump more.
CNN is clearly benefiting from their spat with trump so they are going to keep this up. Fox/Obama comparison is not correct since in that case Fox were the ones who took a hostile approach to Obama for their own agenda. In this case, it was definitely Trump who instigated this.
 
Just to take a different line on this... why should reporters grovel for Trump? It doesn't happen to other world leaders. How do you feel when Teresa May gets a grilling on the woefully inadequate statements about Brexit? He shouldn't be treated like a monarch (who I personally don't think should get kid gloves treatment either, but that's another thing because they don't generally drive policy). A world leader talking rubbish should be challenged robustly.
 
Anyone who genuinely believes that a reporter trying to brazenly squeeze in an extra question at a press conference as being grounds for revoking their pass has probably never watched a press conference before. Any normal politician, any that isn't a precious snowflake that is, just ignores the question and moves on. Acosta's questions weren't even particularly agressive I'd argue and Trump still couldn't control himself. Remember he had Jorge Ramos escorted out of a press conference by security for asking questions about his immigration policies during his campaign so he has plenty of form for this type of behaviour. The entire basis for his war with the press is his narcissistic inability to even hear criticism never mind contemplate accepting it.
 
Acosta should have had his credentials revoked for a time because he behaved like an ass.

Shouting over the President of the country and disrupting the room, refusing to let the mic go is not the agreed behaviour of all those in the room. If he picked up a 2 week ban for that I don't think anyone would care.

Having said that... I understand why he did it, and I support him doing so. Standing in that room, that often; seeing the truth twisted into lies, facts rendered fiction, it would wind me up. I'd lose my shit. I'd shout and get snarky, I'd call the buffoon a liar to his face and call him on his bullshit. I'd also expect to have my access taken away for doing so.

Actions should have consequences. If America started ensuring that their President had to experience some negative consequences to his despicable actions, we wouldn't need to talk about Acosta.
I agree for the most part but at the same time, the points sort of contradict one another. Acosta was out of line so should've been gone, he instigated it. He was the one who deserved to be punished. Obviously Trump was a disgrace to him in his response but likely Acosta knew he would be and did it anyway.

Besides, plenty of journalists have made Trump look like an idiot and say terrible things in his conferences purely by calmly asking questions he doesn't want to answer (or can't answer).
 
Justice Ruth Bader as fallen and fractured three ribs.Please get well soon.Please.
 
Imagine this man appoints 3 judges in his first term and still his on to win a second?
 
i'd mostly be upset because she's my favourite of the John Oliver supreme court dogs

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Tbh as bad as this news is, it doesn’t change the dynamic all that much now GOP have 5 young-ish judges compared to libs. If they fear a Senate takeover in 2020/22, wouldn’t be surprised to see even Thomas or Alito strategically retire.

The only chance for a left-ish SC in the next couple of decades is court packing, or uncharacteristically bad health luck for the right wing judges.
 
Tbh as bad as this news is, it doesn’t change the dynamic all that much now GOP have 5 young-ish judges compared to libs. If they fear a Senate takeover in 2020/22, wouldn’t be surprised to see even Thomas or Alito strategically retire.

The only chance for a left-ish SC in the next couple of decades is court packing, or uncharacteristically bad health luck for the right wing judges.
Clarence Thomas in particular would not surprise me if he retired in the next couple of years.
 
Tbh as bad as this news is, it doesn’t change the dynamic all that much now GOP have 5 young-ish judges compared to libs. If they fear a Senate takeover in 2020/22, wouldn’t be surprised to see even Thomas or Alito strategically retire.

The only chance for a left-ish SC in the next couple of decades is court packing, or uncharacteristically bad health luck for the right wing judges.
Roberts has been pivoting towards the center. And Ginsburg has been the champion of most of left wing issues, essentially the anti-Scala (despite that they were best friends outside of work). Let's hope that she makes a full recovery.
 
Roberts has been pivoting towards the center. And Ginsburg has been the champion of most of left wing issues, essentially the anti-Scala (despite that they were best friends outside of work). Let's hope that she makes a full recovery.
Roberts isn’t pivoting towards the centre. You can’t make that a reality no matter how often you say it. He’s a right wing judge who has consistently voted in favour of big business. That he voted in favour of a healthcare bill conceived by the Heritage Foundation once or twice didn’t make him moderate.

I hope Ginsburg makes a full recovery as well, but in actuality her recovery one way or the other doesn’t matter in the court’s balance. Sooner or later Dems will have to decide if they have the courage to take the dive and pack the court (something which the GOP is already doing at state level), and I don’t think they will because they’ve proven that they value a few extra days of campaigning over a dozen lifetime judicial appointments.
 
I've watched the Press Conference countless times and can't see that Acosta did anything aggressive.

Seriously, am I missing something? Am I too biased to see something obvious? All I saw was him trying to shield the mic. I didn't notice her recoil in shock, pain or anger.
 
Roberts isn’t pivoting towards the centre. You can’t make that a reality no matter how often you say it. He’s a right wing judge who has consistently voted in favour of big business. That he voted in favour of a healthcare bill conceived by the Heritage Foundation once or twice didn’t make him moderate.

So was Kennedy. He was a right wing judge too, but opted many times to join the left wing of the court. Wouldn't be surprised if Roberts kind of reaches the same position.

I hope Ginsburg makes a full recovery as well, but in actuality her recovery one way or the other doesn’t matter in the court’s balance. Sooner or later Dems will have to decide if they have the courage to take the dive and pack the court (something which the GOP is already doing at state level), and I don’t think they will because they’ve proven that they value a few extra days of campaigning over a dozen lifetime judicial appointments.
Don't really know how packing the court works and what will that achieve (Republicans can do the same next time they get power). I also expect to be extremely unpopular, and possibly create a constitutional crisis.
 
So was Kennedy. He was a right wing judge too, but opted many times to join the left wing of the court. Wouldn't be surprised if Roberts kind of reaches the same position
Yes, so more Bush v Gore, anti union rulings, gutting voting rights, climate change actions. You know, things that do matter to the ruling class, not how many gay people can now marry.

The gushing over Kennedy’s ‘liberal stance’ in some parts of the media was nauseating. He ruled that your employer can fire you without arbitration repeatedly, but gays can marry so hey it’s cool.

Don't really know how packing the court works and what will that achieve (Republicans can do the same next time they get power). I also expect to be extremely unpopular, and possibly create a constitutional crisis.

Senate passes a bill to increase the numbers of seat. There once was as high as 11 and as low as 7 seats in the SC, there’s no constitutional crisis. Ideally you go big and make it 13/15, making it extremely difficult for any attempt to do the same to achieve similar impact.
 
Every time I see these 5000 year old supreme court justices my mind just boggles over the fact that they're appointed for life. It's Disney fairy tale levels of silly. The world is subject to constant change. When people get older they become out of touch. Of course some more than others, but we retire at 65 for a reason.

Appointments for life are for jobs like God Emperor or Sith Lord. Not Judges.
 
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Its insane that as a country we still give anger credence to what nine out of touch politicians pretending to be impartial think. The final blow shouls have been the bush gore decision which blatantly showed that these are political actors when they said determining who had won the presidency was taking too long and also that this decision couldn't be used for any future decisions.

It's a farce. The supreme court sucks. The constitution sucks. The government sucks. This country sucks.
 
I've watched the Press Conference countless times and can't see that Acosta did anything aggressive.

Seriously, am I missing something? Am I too biased to see something obvious? All I saw was him trying to shield the mic. I didn't notice her recoil in shock, pain or anger.
I think he was a bit gobby but it was obvious Trump was spoiling for a fight and Sanders has been involved in some shenanigans with the video.
 
I've watched the Press Conference countless times and can't see that Acosta did anything aggressive.

Seriously, am I missing something? Am I too biased to see something obvious? All I saw was him trying to shield the mic. I didn't notice her recoil in shock, pain or anger.

Acosta was a gobby sod and tried to monopolise the time for his own benefit. He then continually spoke over the president. That's all he did wrong.

Anyone that's even addressing the mic issue with the intern is an absolute moron and needs to be euthanised.
 
Its insane that as a country we still give anger credence to what nine out of touch politicians pretending to be impartial think. The final blow shouls have been the bush gore decision which blatantly showed that these are political actors when they said determining who had won the presidency was taking too long and also that this decision couldn't be used for any future decisions.

It's a farce. The supreme court sucks. The constitution sucks. The government sucks. This country sucks.
and there is no way out.
 
Senate passes a bill to increase the numbers of seat. There once was as high as 11 and as low as 7 seats in the SC, there’s no constitutional crisis. Ideally you go big and make it 13/15, making it extremely difficult for any attempt to do the same to achieve similar impact.
I understand that, but then what is to stop Republicans to do the same when they get in power (which might mean very soon if the move is not very popular), and then make 19/21 SCOTUS.
 
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