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Revan said:
I also don't see at this stage how firing him will mean much, when Dems can start an another investigation from the House.
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Yeah, the House Dems will just immediately appoint him as IC, and he'll continue right where he left off.
 
Halftrack said:
Yeah, the House Dems will just immediately appoint him as IC, and he'll continue right where he left off.
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I think that only attorney general and the president can appoint an independent council, but I also think that there are ways to continue the investigation.

The biggest problem though, is that someone who is not an IC cannot subpoena the president. But then, I think that house can subpoena him. Of course, Trump can send the decision in supreme court. And the precedent is that if an IC subpoenas the president, president has to accept it. But then we have Kavanaugh who thinks that acting president is above the law. But then, there is the chief justice who believes in precedent and might well vote with the left wing justices. But then Trump can just decide to again not accept, which means that he must be impeached. However for it to happen, Senate needs a supermajority, which in this time of unprecedented partisanship will never happen, which means that Trump can get away with it. Of course, that might have political consequences. Or not, considering that normal rules don't apply to Trump.

Seriously, it is a mindfeck. They should do the decent thing, burn the constitution and then make a new one, which doesn't have 100 if/else branches for every fecking thing.
 
I highly doubt only the executive branch can appoint a prosecutor to investigate the same executive branch.
 
Revan said:
I think that only attorney general and the president can appoint an independent council, but I also think that there are ways to continue the investigation.

The biggest problem though, is that someone who is not an IC cannot subpoena the president. But then, I think that house can subpoena him. Of course, Trump can send the decision in supreme court. And the precedent is that if an IC subpoenas the president, president has to accept it. But then we have Kavanaugh who thinks that acting president is above the law. But then, there is the chief justice who believes in precedent and might well vote with the left wing justices. But then Trump can just decide to again not accept, which means that he must be impeached. However for it to happen, Senate needs a supermajority, which in this time of unprecedented partisanship will never happen, which means that Trump can get away with it. Of course, that might have political consequences. Or not, considering that normal rules don't apply to Trump.

Seriously, it is a mindfeck. They should do the decent thing, burn the constitution and then make a new one, which doesn't have 100 if/else branches for every fecking thing.
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You're right, of course. They let the Ethics in Government Act expire, so it would have to be signed into law again by Trump. And he won't do that, so he'd have to be overridden by 2/3 of both houses, which obviously isn't going to happen either.

It's a fecked situation, and I fear Trump's lowered the bar far enough that him firing Mueller isn't going to sink him. There'll be a lot of outrage, and he'll keep on trucking.
 
Pexbo said:
Whenever I see McConnell, I want to grab one of his jowls with a pair of pliers and wrench it as hard as I fecking can.


Also, this is where Avenatti is going to be our guy. While some Dems are meek, he's going to be like a terrier hounding the House Dems to grow a spine and reopen investigations.
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I think you need to go low with those pliers. Untangle your metaphors ... and do the twist.
 
Well if this ends up with the WH press pack actually holding Trump's feet to the fire, great. Something tells me it's just going to be more tweets while Trump picks on his go-to targets and some more impotent rage from the press. Which is exactly what the WH wants, an opportunity to scold reporters on camera and beam the images out to the world.
 
Sneak preview of future White House Press Conferences:

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Revan said:
The impeachment in the house means feck all, heck he would probably want it to happen (and McConnell actually was suggesting that). Firing Muller was considered as the red line for some Republicans (like Susan Collins for example) but I doubt that they will do anything about it (and actually more powerful senators like Paul had been suggesting it for some time now, with others like Graham or McConnell, while never had said that he should be fired, have already called it a witch hunt).

I also don't see at this stage how firing him will mean much, when Dems can start an another investigation from the House.
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All of this assumes Trump will act rationally and suddenly stop thinking he can control everything.

But also impeachment by the House would put everything in the spotlight. Whatever skeletons he's got, even the ones we already basically know about, would come out under the microscope. The people reading threads like this are significantly more clued in than the average person. That would change considerably once the public spotlight was focused on him.
 
Red Dreams said:
the guy is in total meltdown.
wait till the investigations start.

He will have to find diapers large enough to fit his lardarse.
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Watching Jim Acosta pressing him, and him trying to be authoritative and going "That's enough!" but instead coming off as an impotent sack of shit who no one has any respect for was great.
 
The entire press fraternity should protest and go on strike. He wants the press to only report about him is a positive light. He would get his wish with only news coming from the Trump House in the form of his tweets.
 
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Sanders saying we will not allow him to place his hand on a young woman. It's almost hilariously ironic. Except that it's not hilarious, but sad and fecking evil.
 
Trump is a narcissistic cnut, but it’s people like SHS who legitimise his bullshit & embolden him to say what he does.

The irony of her tweets is incredible. The daily shit she spouts with a straight face is remarkable. She’s truly an evil bitch.
 
ha_rooney said:
Trump is a narcissistic cnut, but it’s people like SHS who legitimise his bullshit & embolden him to say what he does.

The irony of her tweets is incredible. The daily shit she spouts with a straight face is remarkable. She’s truly an evil bitch.
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Her role in this administration must not be forgotten. I just can't imagine how she looks at herself in the morning. I doubt the job even pays very well, and she'd make far more sitting down on a Fox couch like the rest of the administration. I hate that her and Kelly Ann Conway are basically the worst two people in the public spotlight, such a shame given they're the only women allowed to speak by Trump. (Ivanka aside)
 
Trump's treatment of Acosta was just disgraceful and unacceptable.Now revoking his pass on a trumped up charge os assault just compounds his error.How the fcuk is this even happening?
 
snk123 said:
They are correspondents and their job is to ask questions when it's their turn. When the president says move on - that should be that! regardless of your hatred.
As an outsider, it is laughable how divided this country is. Everyone justifies everything their side does. I can't imagine the uproar in the liberal media if a Fox reporter had done this to Obama.

Again, how is Jim Acosta not acting like a complete dick in this clip?
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Are you serious? He asked a question and it wasn't answered, he was polite Trump was rude. " CNN should be ashamed" "You are a rude terrible person" Thats not how any politician should behave let alone the guy in the highest office.
 
"Today's incident at the White House"? You fecking kidding me? What we saw yesterday was a suppression of democracy and transparency from the fecking President.
 
The Brown Bull said:
Are you serious? He asked a question and it wasn't answered, he was polite Trump was rude. " CNN should be ashamed" "You are a rude terrible person" Thats not how any politician should behave let alone the guy in the highest office.
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Trying to force in questions out of turn and holding on to the microphone when an aide (?!) tries to take it from you certainly is not polite or acceptable behaviour. Trump reacting badly to it does not vindicate Acosta's behaviour.
 
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do.ob said:
Trying to force in questions out of turn and holding on to the microphone when an aide (?!) tries to take it from you certainly is not polite or acceptable behaviour. Trump reacting badly to it does not vindicate Acosta's actions.
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See I would agree with this if Trump's answers or his behaviour would've been relatively normal during yesterday's press conference. It obviously wasn't, never has been since he started running for office.

Imagine Merkel spouting nonsense like that during a conference, at some point actually insinuating that a random black woman who asked a question is the real racist in the room. You don't expect journalists to press her and call her out on that shite? They should just say yes and amen after one question and a bulsshite answer, and make a salute while they're at it or something?
 
do.ob said:
Trying to force in questions out of turn and holding on to the microphone when an aide (?!) tries to take it from you certainly is not polite or acceptable behaviour. Trump reacting badly to it does not vindicate Acosta's actions.
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It's about time the press tried to force in questions, rather than letting him get away with after lie and unfounded accusation after unfounded accusation.

The WH trying to spin this as him "putting his hands on a female staffer" are well beyond laughable - they are insulting and extremely troubling.

The press needs to band together and refuse to accept this. But of course they will not and this will be yet another incident that is buried under whatever happens next.

Every day in this presidency is take out the trash day.
 
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