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Real, hard hitting journalists like Glenn Greenwald getting involved now


Feinstein must have been in a tough spot. Difficult to draw the line between the need to know and a victim who clearly did not want the media exposure.
 
The timing isn't the woman's fault. She sent the letter to Feinstein all the way back in July. She did not want to be known. The Republicans made it clear hey we're not going to take an anonymous letter seriously. So what choice does she have?
I don't understand people who have never been in the same situation judging when it is the appropriate time to come out.
What do you do when someone who has sexually assaulted you in the past is about to become a supreme court justice...sit down and pretend like it never happened so you can forget?
She has clinical notes from 6 years ago, she's a university professor. She's as credible as an accuser can be.
He was council for the white house. If there's something that should have prevented him from being supreme court justice, surely the same would hold true for being a major legal player in the white house?

Just saying it's not like the man was an unknown til months ago.

And I hope it's true for the record, and that he's disqualified. Just process wise it concerns me - very few people are perfect and the idea that high school accusations can pop up at anytime could be weaponized. And obviously if you've been assaulted you should speak up if able to etc etc.
 
He was council for the white house. If there's something that should have prevented him from being supreme court justice, surely the same would hold true for being a major legal player in the white house?

Just saying it's not like the man was an unknown til months ago.

And I hope it's true for the record, and that he's disqualified. Just process wise it concerns me - very few people are perfect and the idea that high school accusations can pop up at anytime could be weaponized. And obviously if you've been assaulted you should speak up if able to etc etc.
To be honest, only she knows why she didn't go public before but I don't think it matters. She only told two people before that letter.
It's true he was not an unknown quantity but moving from WH Counsel to the supreme court is quite a huge leap. He will be a justice for life.
 
To be honest, only she knows why she didn't go public before but I don't think it matters. She only told two people before that letter.
It's true he was not an unknown quantity but moving from WH Counsel to the supreme court is quite a huge leap. He will be a justice for life.
He's already a judge on a US Court of Appeals. He already decides matters of grave importance.

I kind of agree with @Beachryan .
 
He was council for the white house. If there's something that should have prevented him from being supreme court justice, surely the same would hold true for being a major legal player in the white house?

Just saying it's not like the man was an unknown til months ago.

And I hope it's true for the record, and that he's disqualified. Just process wise it concerns me - very few people are perfect and the idea that high school accusations can pop up at anytime could be weaponized. And obviously if you've been assaulted you should speak up if able to etc etc.
Such a weapon would only be effective if the accusations are credible.
 
The Senate should call each of the women to testify and see if they will support a pussy-grabber under oath.

They only need to grab his accomplice/friend and all this would break loose. If he even puts Kavanaugh on the spot on the specific night, he's toast considering the response he made.
 
This woman suffered trauma. Its a personal thing. She sought help to get over this.

The timing of when she brought this up is only important in that a vermin like this can be prevented from sitting on the highest court in the land.

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I would like to see Collins and Murkowski vote for this guy with straight faces after they voted against Franken.
 
Such a weapon would only be effective if the accusations are credible.
Sadly that's not true. There are loads of studies and examples where the general population believe an initial accusation, even when dow the road it is proven false.

Think of good old David Cameron swine propensity for example.
 
Does he not realise that, for many people, citing Fox News is as effective as citing the Beano?
 
Sadly that's not true. There are loads of studies and examples where the general population believe an initial accusation, even when dow the road it is proven false.

Think of good old David Cameron swine propensity for example.
Sure, but the general population have no direct input in this process, have they?
 
Mother Jones said:
Kavanaugh's debts on three credit cards, as well as a loan against his retirement account, totaled between $60,000 and $200,000 in 2016, according to his financial disclosure forms. The next year, his debts vanished.
 
Trump is desperate of course to have another rubber stamp.

Its significant that a good number of the 65 women the Republicans had ready to support him have now either ignored calls or have not confirmed they still support him.

think this is unravelling in real time.

I'm waiting for who Trump will throw under the bus other than Kavanaugh for all this.
 
It always amazes me people with these sort of skeletons in their closets choose to come into the spotlight.

Do they think they'll be able to keep the secrets secret?

Or worst, they see their inexcusable behavior as so irrelevant and normal, they simply forget about it, ignoring the other person is still talking about it with a therapist 30 years later.
 
It always amazes me people with these sort of skeletons in their closets choose to come into the spotlight.

Do they think they'll be able to keep the secrets secret?

Or worst, they see their inexcusable behavior as so irrelevant and normal, they simply forget about it, ignoring the other person is still talking about it with a therapist 30 years later.

goes deeper though.

This is the heart of the hypocritical Kristian Evanglical movement.
 
I'm a little loathe with the one accusation - not that it's not necessarily true, but that the timing is really odd. But if there's more than great, let's get it out now.

...although... what would happen if he was confirmed, took his seat then in 2 years the dems unleash evidence against him? Assuming a new president of course

I think the attitude of 'the timing is a bit suspect' needs some serious looking at because it's used to completely dismiss out of hand any accusation that pops up. Not having a go at you specifically, just the idea of it. It plays into the 'politics is a tribal, team game' ideology and just makes people more cynical and less likely to believe those that have been abused and in turn less likely for them to talk about what they've been through.

First of all, the accused is currently in the news, plastered everywhere far and wide so the accuser won't be able to escape it.

Secondly trauma does horrible things to a person's mind and how they handle it is completely and utterly different to everybody else on the planet. Some people are open straight away, some people bottle it up forever, some people hide it until it gets too much and eventually talk. Some people don't even recognise they've been abused and deny it in their own heads until eventually they're forced to confront it and pick it apart and realise that what happened was seriously not okay. Things might've been accepted in the past whereas they're definitely not now and people have to adapt to that change, abusers, accusers and everyone else. Imagine spending decades thinking something awful that had happened to you wasn't anything out of the ordinary and then you suddenly come to that realisation? The brain is a mental thing to try and understand.

Thirdly if they're struggling to talk, the thought of their abuser getting such a prominent upgrade in their life is powerful motivation to finally speak out about something that might've happened.

Fourthly we don't know what powers are at play in terms of how and why she hasn't spoken up before now. Who has something on her to stop her or doesn't, what Kavanaugh did after he did it.

I entirely understand the cynicism and sometimes things are set up to make people look bad but I'm much more inclined to give the benefit of the doubt to the accuser in cases like this and let her give a full account so the powers in charge have the full information available to them before they make a decision on something as powerful as a Supreme Court nominee. They should be as clean as a whistle even though human nature dictates that's not possible. It's the gold standard.
 
Kavanaugh is apparently at the White House this morning. So either Trump is going to double down and go after the accuser OR Kavanaugh may pull his nomination. I'm guessing its the former.
 
When accused of sexual assault or other misdeeds by women, President Donald Trump says you've got to "deny, deny, deny,"
This is presented in detail in the Woodward book, however it's not the general public voting in this instance.
 
Yeah true...unless Kavanaugh himself wants to duck out, I can see Trump doubling down. That could of course all change if there is a 2nd accuser.

I don't even see the point of Red Dreams posts here, thinking somehow this is a good thing for Dems. Mitch Mac did the same thing blocking Garland and I thought that's going to hurt the Republicans. It only fired them up to come and vote more. Fool me once, fool me twice and all that, but Trump doubling down on Kavanaugh would again have a similar effect on R's who are desperate to get more SC justices to fight their cause.

Also, the 2nd accuser point is valid, but it makes little difference to Trump in my opinion. After all, he had 10+ accusers.
 
Trump will double down. It's clear as day he's got a deal in place with Kavanaugh acting to protect him when subpoenas and impeachment is knocking on his door.
 
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