Silva
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yeah, it's a protest, that's the pointNon-compliance sends a different message to mere ignorance of the words of the song!
yeah, it's a protest, that's the pointNon-compliance sends a different message to mere ignorance of the words of the song!
Oh, come on! Unfamiliarity with the words of the anthem is not equivalent to a refusal to comply with the public norms of behaviour when it's being played. I'm not arguing for perfect citizens. People do what they like in pubs or shops or their own homes. But a protocol defining the conduct of those present when the anthem is played on certain public occasions has been established. Non-compliance sends a different message to mere ignorance of the words of the song!
You said before, you're not pro legislation about standing for the anthem etc. So basically what you're saying is, come on, don't be a cnut, just stand for the national anthem.Oh, come on! Unfamiliarity with the words of the anthem is not equivalent to a refusal to comply with the public norms of behaviour when it's being played. I'm not arguing for perfect citizens. People do what they like in pubs or shops or their own homes. But a protocol defining the conduct of those present when the anthem is played on certain public occasions has been established. Non-compliance sends a different message to mere ignorance of the words of the song!
What would you do to people who don't stand for the anthem ? Have them arrested ?
What would you do to people who don't stand for the anthem ? Have them arrested ?
You said before, you're not pro legislation about standing for the anthem etc. So basically what you're saying is, come on, don't be a cnut, just stand for the national anthem.
In that light is it too much to ask, come one, you're the leader of the country, don't be a cnut, take a 10 minute break from golfing and memorize the words.
I don't know why you thought there would be. This the US not some crazy dictatorship..... Yet.Was reading more on this last night. Seems there was a congressional research paper that states that Flag Code is voluntary and a guideline and there are no penalties for not obeying it.
https://www.senate.gov/reference/resources/pdf/RL30243.pdf
Kinda takes the wind out of the whole 'disrespect' thingy!
Oh, come on! Unfamiliarity with the words of the anthem is not equivalent to a refusal to comply with the public norms of behaviour when it's being played. I'm not arguing for perfect citizens. People do what they like in pubs or shops or their own homes. But a protocol defining the conduct of those present when the anthem is played on certain public occasions has been established. Non-compliance sends a different message to mere ignorance of the words of the song!
This the US not some crazy dictatorship..... Yet.
Wasn't it a different song he didn't know the words to?
Punishing people for not respecting the flag? Let's be honest we aren't going to agree so let's not even start...Seriously? You are equating to a flag code to dictatorship?
Wasn't it a different song he didn't know the words to?
It was God bless America.
Punishing people for not respecting the flag? Let's be honest we aren't going to agree so let's not even start...
The funny thing is that it was an event to show the NFL what real patriots were like.It was both actually, at the same event he messed up the two of them.
Weren't you and Will advocating that earlier? Or were you just having a moan?Why would we disagree? If it's not a rule of law, it should not be punished.
It was both actually, at the same event he messed up the two of them.
The funny thing is that it was an event to show the NFL what real patriots were like.
Weren't you and Will advocating that earlier? Or were you just having a moan?
Not at all. It's massively magnified by the fact that he is the one slagging people off about disrespecting the anthem, then goes and organises a celebration of it, where he doesn't know the words.
He's mouthing nonsense and leering during the anthem with the army standing right behind him.
And it's not the first time either. Don't forget too that he has also forgotten other protocol related to this too, i.e. hand over heart. He's frequently non-compliant and he's the president. Not only that, but a president who's made the anthem thing one of his go-to talking points. It's beyond ironic and revolting.
Come on yourself!
Don't forget ineptitude. Heaps of it.
I never thought inviting someone to 'come on!' would hit a nerve. I accused a poster last night of teaching tiddlywinks and he took it on the chin. Toughen up!
On a serious note, Trump needs to learn the words of the American anthems. Yesterday.
How do you expect to accuse someone else of having a nerve hit when you've used the phrase "Oh, come on!"
I'll take this as you conceding the point, thanks.
Literally anyone reading your posts are raising aI'll see your and raise you
I never concede anything. It's part of my charm. How many women have said to me, 'I love the fact that you never make concessions, Will.'
Well, none. But the principle stands.
Literally anyone reading your posts are raising a
Flake is scheduled to make a speech on the Senate floor trashing Trump's trade war policies in a bit....so Trump seems to want to get ahead of the narrative.
I'll see your and raise you
I never concede anything. It's part of my charm. How many women have said to me, 'I love the fact that you never make concessions, Will.'
Well, none. But the principle stands.
At the rate you’re lowering the IQ here, I don’t think anyone’s posts can.And reading your posts will never raise anyone's IQ.
(These petty insults are fun, aren't they?)
Believe, nothing worse than doubling down Trumpite style and pretending you're right and everyone else is wrong. Just put your hands up, own it and keep it moving.Doubling down on your concession here then, I see.
It's ok to be wrong sometimes, Will. To a lot of real actual people, it might even be significantly more charming than doubling down constantly.
Don't be such a sheep. The Deep State conspiracy against Trump forced him to fire Comey because they've had it in for him from day 1.Well he fecked himself over big time because firing him brought in Mueller and a big spotlight on this issue that won’t go away. Many thanks to Trump!