Fearless
Mighty Mouse
A rich man who had a rich dad. Some achievement.
Agreed. He turned millions into billions. And became president.
What have you done?
A rich man who had a rich dad. Some achievement.
Not really though. His approval ratings are absolutely terrible and he barely won the 2016 election, scraping by on thousands of votes in a few select key areas against a horrendous Democratic candidate. A strong Dem has every chance of beating him in 2020. In the meantime it's fair to investigate whether or not he's got dodgy financial dealings and what the impact of those dealings are. Should people just give up and ignore a lot of the crooked stuff he's doing because his party don't care?
Agree entirely - but when the investigation is over - what is going to happen?
Shag all.
Whose the strong Dem candidate? I know no one. Everything has been taken over by Trump. Its one big smokescreen and everyone is being clouded by the BS.
At end of day its solidifying the Republican support base.
Wishful thinking and bollox.
I hope for your sake the Korean situation isn't sorted out.
Agreed. He turned millions into billions. And became president.
What have you done?
Pretty sure Cheesy could put a vast inheritance in a fund that tracks the stock market easy enough, all the while not running casinos that go bankrupt.
I do remain skeptical of his ability to win the presidency though, I admit.
What sort of logic is that in defending him? Plenty of leaders and rich people are cnuts.
Agree entirely - but when the investigation is over - what is going to happen?
Shag all.
Whose the strong Dem candidate? I know no one. Everything has been taken over by Trump. Its one big smokescreen and everyone is being clouded by the BS.
At end of day its solidifying the Republican support base.
Pretty sure Cheesy could put a vast inheritance in a fund that tracks the stock market easy enough, all the while not running casinos that go bankrupt.
I do remain skeptical of his ability to win the presidency though, I admit.
I'm not defending him. As you've no doubt deduced, you lot are. The more hatred he gets, the more his presidency solidify's.
That depends. If Trump has committed a crime legal proceedings can be brought against him and pressure will continue to mount for the GOP to act. Financial stuff can be quite revealing.
The Dems still have Bernie and Biden, old as they may be, and both are projected to beat Trump in 2020.
Have you learnt nothing about projections?
Not really though. Very little evidence suggests this. Both sides of the divide have become more entrenched but most current polling puts the Dems in a better position than they were in 2016.
It's weird logic anyway though. Should people not criticise his faults because it might offend some people who like him? The entire point of political opposition is to oppose.
But they aren't. There just going after Trump, not the policies. It's became absurd.
I'm one of those I guess, but I couldn't be bothered given it's become an echo chamber of a thread.
To be honest, I think he's already one of the best Presidents in history after eight years of one of the worst.
This. Politics has become a sport.Because they don't view the matter as one of right v wrong. They view it instead of us v them.
He's totally unfit to be President. That's worth going after.
Mighty Mouse v Cheesy. I’m with the GorgonzolaAgreed. He turned millions into billions. And became president.
What have you done?
But they aren't. There just going after Trump, not the policies. It's become absurd.
LolI'm one of those I guess, but I couldn't be bothered given it's become an echo chamber of a thread.
To be honest, I think he's already one of the best Presidents in history after eight years of one of the worst.
Mighty Mouse v Cheesy. I’m with the Gorgonzola
Because the President is an individual and as an individual he has an endless list of questionable actions and remarks.
This. Politics has become a sport.
I fear the UK is heading in the same direction.
And what gives you the moral high ground here. Are you on Jesus's payroll?
But they aren't. There just going after Trump, not the policies. It's become absurd.
Projections in 2016 had Hilary and Trump within a few percentage points of each other. 538 had Hilary as favourite but acknowledged there was a reasonable chance of Trump winning. It was a surprise but far from out of the realm of possibility.
They are going after him because he provides plenty to go after. Nobody wants an orange version of Erdogan, Berlusconi, or Duarte running their country.
No. This is a thread dedicated to the Trump Presidency, in which people are being critical of aspects of Trump's Presidency. I don't see why other people not being perfect exempts him of criticism.
Although I suspect you're just trying to deflect because on an actual discussion of Trump's policies and conduct you'd have nothing.
Clearly the election said otherwise.
This is one of the best things about his dipshit supporters: they understand so little about projections that they actually think anyone was seriously wrong. It was always a possibility, albeit not a large one, that he could win. Every forecast has a margin of error, this was well within it. That does not devalue voting projections in any way, people just got far too used to them being absolutely on point and treated them as gospel.
This is one of the best things about his dipshit supporters: they understand so little about projections that they actually think anyone was seriously wrong. It was always a possibility, albeit not a large one, that he could win. Every forecast has a margin of error, this was well within it. That does not devalue voting projections in any way, people just got far too used to them being absolutely on point and treated them as gospel.
So where's the Obama Presidency thread then? Deflection or not, I can't recall anything like this about that fool.
It actually didn't since he didn't get as many votes as his opponent. And if you factor in the Russian interference piece and his subsequent conastristry, he would've gotten even less.
There's one reflecting on the aftermath of his Presidency, some of the posts in it incredibly critical. Feel free to dig it up and post in it if you want. Naturally the current President will get more attention than the former one. Again you're deflecting. No interest in discussing actual political events and so obfuscating onto Obama instead.
He won. Everything else is hypothetical.
No problem discussing his political agenda, but I'm rushing off to vote Tory in a minute.
Its not hypothetical that he got less votes than his opponent.
Also, winning an election doesn't make someone above the law. He still has to account for his actions both during the campaign and while he is President. If he is found to have acted inappropriately or broken the law then he is going down.