The Trump Presidency | Biden Inaugurated
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I guarantee that if Trump had run and won 4 years ago then Joe the plumber (or whatever his name was) would have got a cabinet position.
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If a fascist state took control, which of these people would be anti-genocide?
If a fascist state took control, which of these people would be anti-genocide?
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As abhorrent and hard to understand as it is, Slaves were treated as chattel.
Just think for a moment, do you really believe slave traders travelled the world merely for hatred of slaves skin colour?
They did it all for economic gain. The subsequent horrific treatment was to hold on to this economic gain for as long as possible.
I am not sure why so many have been triggered by this.
It's no lesser horrific event in history because it was for monetary reasons in fact in my mind it is far worse to be treated as non human economic material instead of a inferior race as racists think.
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I thought Will Absolute's earlier post would be the stupidest one I read in this thread ever, but I've seen a couple that beat it on this page.
The McMahon appointment makes some sense. Trump has known and dealt with the McMahons for decades, they were big contributors to his campaign, she's run for office herself as a republican a couple of times and is a very successful business woman.
It's still pretty funny though.
None of these victims were slaves, this is many years post slavery. There was no monetary gain here, it was sheer abuse of power over a people who couldn't do anything about their persecution. There wasn't any financial gain from lynching these people.
The only reason for these lynchings were sadism, hatefulness and 'sport'. We all come across people in life who make themselves feel better by being hateful to others and that's what it boils down to.
You don't think the fact that they were a different race faciliated this dehumanisation? Seriously?
I've loved reading this thread for weeks... But the last 24 hours haven't been enjoyable, at all.
Racists/anti semites do like down playing genocide and massacres for their own amusements. I think someones card needs marking, if not an automatic demotion?
Do you think there's a possibility that you really don't know very much about this topic?
Of course it did. I stated they did it for mostly economic reasons.
That is it.
Although slave trade is something that has happened on all continents with all races - not always different and not always whites v blacks.
Explain how it was racist then?
Makes perfect economic sense, don't you know?
No more pictures of people being hanged please, that kind of graphic photography is not allowed on here.
I've just removed the ones that were posted earlier.
I've just removed the ones that were posted earlier.
What did the lynchings that continued decades after the slave trade era have to do with economic benefit?
Feckin hell. Seriously? This is what you're going with?
Please, stop. Just stop. This is ignorance on an apocalyptic level.
I'm sorry, but you are overreacting. The world and the US in particular is not going to suddenly become less safe for women and people of colour because Trump is President. All that is just massive overreaction by everyone. What has a good chance to change for the better is the influence of special interest groups and lobbyists from various sectors in Washington DC. The Trump administration has said that it will ban people from becoming lobbyists for 5 years after they leave their jobs in the public sector in DC or wherever. Compare this to Obama, whose entire cabinet was picked for him by Citigroup. He has granted so many permits to the fossil fuel industry during his time as President. It's been quite a failure on many fronts.
Things won't change for the worse. The US is a great country and has so much great talent. People saying it's going to become somehow worse is just an overreaction.
Sometimes you'll encounter a statement so devoid of reason, logic, factual evidence, common sense, empathy, rationality, knowledge, and intelligence; that the fear is that it will create some sort of singularity paradox of pure stupid, which will consume time and space as we know it.
I suspect the phrase "slavery wasn't racist" falls into that category.
Considering lynchings as 'not racist' and 'not hateful' should be a breach of any sane forums rules.
If someone posted 'stupid ignorant comments' about Fergie, I'm pretty sure a ban would be imminent. But the justification of a racially motivated massacres, nah don't be silly.
Right wing economic policies disproportionately hurt women, minorities and the working poor. If by some miracle his incompetence doesn't lead to a complete collapse of the world economy, the fact that the likes of Paul Ryan will be in charge of economic policies the US is going to become a worse, and less safe for women and minorities.
A forum needs rules unless it's to become a racial abuse spewing free fall like youtube. There is fine lines that need keeping in check.
You're right. I need to calm down. We're in safe hands. Not like that pesky Obama and his Citigroup connections. It's incomprehensible to imagine Trump filling his appointees with a who's who of a Wall Street bank, like Goldman Sachs for example.
After all, one thing we know about Donald is that he is an honest man. Probably the most honest man you've ever met. Seriously. Fantastically honest. So honest you won't believe
I think there's a difference in the historical application of the term slavery. Throughout most of history slavery was practiced on defeated opponents in war, there was no aspect of racism as such when it came to the Egyptians, Romans, Persians, Chinese, south Asians or Arabs.
Modern slavery though (say the last 200 years as a ball park figure) has most definitely had an aspect of racism to it, especially the new world slavery. If there wasn't an aspect of racism then why didn't the European slave traders buy any non black slaves from the old world? The Arabs, Turks and west African traders all stocked white slaves yet none of them made to America, in fact If it really was all about economics then all the Irish immigrants would have been rounded up and sent straight down south.
I justified what? Can you actually read?
I agree with most of that but whatever points i might add i wont because it is beyond some and i don't want to inflame anymore.
My response sent this thread off topic enough.
I have already been accused of justifying massacres so it's obvious some people need space.
That's a nice get out of jail free card for you.
Hey, you just need space.
OK, I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you just didn't get your point across properly.
Were you trying to say something like racism and race hatred are a product of unequal power relations, including economic? Because that is certainly something that almost everyone informed about the roots of racism would accept. Power over others tends to produce contempt and hatred which can be filtered through different discriminatory lenses (religious, race, etc.), and in that sense race hatred against, say, African-Americans was in large part a product of the slave trade which was, we can agree, in part motivated by economic factors (although beware that going back to the Spanish conquests, the anti-slavery campaigner Bartolomé de las Casas initially argued for the replacement of native American slaves with African imports, a call he later regretted and apologized for, but some say the damage was already done).
It doesn't then follow, however, that discriminatory measures aimed against African-Americans is all about economics and nothing to do with hatred or racism, quite the opposite - it is impossible to disentangle them.
Yes, Like I said, the hatred and racism came later (probably from fear and guilt).
I would say it was case of people not reading and some cases not understanding what i said, but whatever, it was clear to anyone who bothered it was not intended to lighten the events, and certainly not condone them.
It really wasn't clear at all.
Galactic moron Newt Gingrich chooses today to congratulate the Japanese for Pearl Harbor.
He has such a stupid face.
I thought you liked him.
Dear admins,
Can we please have the last 4 or so pages of this thread removed directly from the DB as if they were never written? Thanks.
Sincerely,
The concerned Caf posters.
Can we please have the last 4 or so pages of this thread removed directly from the DB as if they were never written? Thanks.
Sincerely,
The concerned Caf posters.
Unless he was hacked, it does appear real.
People automatically forget about pages over time, so just forget about it and all will be ok.
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