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Since you seem to understand nothing in general, maybe go read and try and understand this topic in particular (yeah, right): https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportu...4d818b2bf35db5d4c07d92f240a&tab=core&_cview=1
For TWO planes. List price for a standard one is $370m. Obviously these will be nothing remotely like standard - they're mobile command centres for the world's most heavily armed nation, able to withstand an EMP from a nuclear weapon.
I don't get why all these liberals say everything Trump does is wrong. 
He's won the presidency. Support him and let him make the most of it. I tune in on the CNN and some of the things which are said completely disgust me. They continuously insult the intelligence of the electorate and get away with it.
He's won the presidency. Support him and let him make the most of it. I tune in on the CNN and some of the things which are said completely disgust me. They continuously insult the intelligence of the electorate and get away with it.I don't get why all these liberals say everything Trump does is wrong.
You going back into Pogba Transfer Thread mode?
No man, just buy a used Cessna 172 with a UHF radio. It's all good.
"One careful owner.... PERFECT!!"
Are you really that daft? Although defense contracts are very prone to corruption, that doesn't change that the additions to the standard planes are VAST. Just because it looks the same, that doesn't mean the interior has much to do with it. The simulations and test to make sure those things will even fly are extremely expensive. It's not like adding an aftermarket exhaust to your crappy Chrysler you know.
And no, nothing needs to be added to contact any fighter jets, because you can do that with regular coms...you DO need to add equipment though for simple tasks like being able to transmit the nuclear launch codes and heavily cripted satellite broadband internet connections. The usual stuff you have on your American Airline plane, really.
I don't get why all these liberals say everything Trump does is wrong.
WUM?
Otherwise, they get away with it because the vast majority of the electorate IS stupid as feck.
I look forward to the day he visits Germany for the first time btw, the protests against push will look like a Kindergarden party compared to that
Some of the conjecture from the Trump fanbase about Air Force One is just hilariously stupid. The capabilities of these two aircraft are incredible and they are there for a reason. The idea that Trump is going to come in and make the military procurement and R&D process more efficient, is also wonderfully laughable.
I don't get why all these liberals say everything Trump does is wrong.
Supporting someone just because they won (not by every measure, as he lost the popular vote), and did so on a platform of hate, misinformation, lies, intolerance, and with a history of alleged sexual assault, would be to sell out your soul. At least, this is how I am sure most people feel. As someone who lives within, applauds, and is married into, a multi-cultural world; there is nothing that could abhor me more than supporting a main stream, misogynistic, bigot like Donald Trump. He will never be my President. The fact he got voted in, tells us two things about the electorate (1) There is a lot of closet racism and misogyny out there, even more than we were aware of, and (2) People are incredibly, fecking stupid. The vast majority of people who voted for Trump has voted against their own self interests, have no concept that 95% of his facts are just made up lies or exaggerations, and are completely oblivious to the potential consequences domestically and internationally, of having this clown in office.
So to be frank, the more people that stand up and make it as difficult as possible for this man to execute his agenda, the better. To do otherwise is to say you are ok with hate, with racism, to sexual violence against women, and to perpetuate the hugely damaging myths that globally significant phenomena like climate change, don't exist. I have a daughter. She's biracial too. I want her to grow up in a world where she isn't discriminated against because of her colour, is free to choose what to so with her own body, is seen as an equal to any man, is free to pursue whichever sexual preference she desires, and has clean air to breathe.
feck Donald Trump, and feck anyone who supports him.
Keep saying that everyone who supported Trump is an ignorant racist, as the main stream media and the leadership of the Democratic party are doing and you will find Trump reelected in 2020.
Calling Trump supporters ignorant racists isn't what elected Trump. It's them being ignorant racists. Therefore, we should continue to call ignorant racists, exactly what they are; ignorant racists.
"Hey Guys, Donald Trump is eroding civil liberities, and actively promoting discrimination. What should we do?"
"Shhhhhhh!!!! Whatever you do, just don't accuse those in favour of discrimination, YOU FOOL!"
One thing I understand, the stock markets are the cancer of our world, they created the mess in 2008, they are the reason why people lose jobs, they are the reason why our world are so polluted when moving factories abroad knowing is not only cheap labor they would get but a complete crime against the environment, the so called investors are really gamblers with no respect to human life and they are the biggest hypocrites. That's my opinion and obvious you work for the stock market "e cada um puxa a brasa para a sua sardinha"
I think it had some effect in electing him. Clinton's comment about a basket of deplorables, maligned millions of people. It pissed off a lot of people and made them determined to vote against her.
What I am saying is that there has been no attempt by those who opposed Trump to understand why they lost. They are blaming it on a "whitelash" by ignorant racist Trump supporters, an unfair media or Conway's letter. There is no attempt to analyze their own short comings.
Attacking those who supported Trump won't help. By all means call out those that are racists, but blanket accusations against all his supporters will not do anything to lessen the divide the US finds itself in.
Buuuuuuuuullshit.
Why should one attempt to "lessen" the divide between ideological positions, one of which is built on intolerance and hate? In this day and age there should be a zero tolerance policy towards it.
See, I understand what you are trying to do; and to an extent I agree with it. If one was looking to build a political machine capable of winning a general election, then there is much you would do differently about the democratic strategy. But, I think it is important not to get the two subjects mixed up. On the one hand there has been raucous conversation about overhauling the Democratic's Party electoral machine, including the ill fated reliance on grass-roots campaigning; as well as innumerable analysis on not only Clinton's approach to her campaign, but also whether she was an electable candidate in the first place. All very important and valid discussions. Yet, on the other hand, we have to have a social and cultural discussion about tolerance, and equality. Average members of society, like myself, as well as news organizations, should be able to discuss these matters openly and honestly.
I am not a Democratic Party strategist. I am not campaigning for office. I am not beholden to the vagaries and complexities of modern politics. I'm just a normal guy, standing up for decency and making my voice heard against the oppressive and intolerant. I'm also decrying the inability or unwillingness of a large percentage of the electorate to be able to differentiate between fiction and fact, and to sink to the lowest common denominator. Again, as a member of society, this is a significant concern to me and points towards an instant gratification, sensationalist, intolerant, blame culture which is gaining a national foothold.
Many news networks, such as CNN, tried to depict the information as accurately as possible. They are now being lambasted by some for their approach to Trump, his lies, his actions etc. Yet, their job is to report the news. When the President Elect does something unconventional or controversial then the headline reads "President Elect acts controversially or unconventionally". They don't make the news, they just report it. [Insert partisan satirical jibe here]
Democratic strategists have their work cut out for them on how to win the hearts and minds of those who don't bother to verify their information. Those voters who vote on single, personalized issues, and those voters who are not capable, or not concerned, with understanding a holistic approach to national leadership. It's a difficult task, because as we've seen people often vote based on emotion, or protest.
Either way, these are not the issues I have to resolve. I am standing up for myself, and for my family, and for everyone with a sense of decency. And, with that in mind, I'll say again that Trump supporters are all fecking idiots who either (a) don't understand the issues, (b) are bigots, or (c) are purely self interested, damning the consequences.
They are still blaming everyone but themselves. Just watch CNN for awhile.
What a self aggrandizing post - full of the very hate you so righteously despise.
We thank you though - it's your mentality of being better than everyone else that ended up putting him in office.
If hating hatred, willful ignorance and intolerance are being "full of hate" then I suppose you are right. Seems somewhat of a misnomer though.
Again, that same argument remains self defeating. I didn't vote for Trump, so I didn't put him in office. If other people voted for Trump just because I said they would be stupid and racist to vote for him, then they are most certainly the former.
The truth of the matter, is that people like you turn the spotlight onto my "self-aggrandizing", and 'better-than-thou mentality', as a means of deflecting away from the uncomfortable truth of your own bigoted or ill informed ideological platform. We can remain in dispute over the causes of the election result, but nothing will change my deep rooted contempt and disgust for Donald Trump and his supporters.
And just so we are clear. If you support Donald Trump. I AM better than you.
This old argument, who are these people that voted for him just because of the 'nasty' things the left were saying?
I disagree with your opinion about CNN, I find them very biased. You are right about their job being to report the news, but that is not what any of the media, on either side do these days They all try to make news or at least influence people's opinion towards their views.
All politics are personal, people tend to vote for someone they think best represents their issues. Most voters are looking at their own bottom line. I don't think there are many voters thinking about a holistic approach to national leadership. Even you by standing up for yourself and your family while commendable and understanding, are making it personal.
Well, as I did mention, many voters are single issue voters. And, for me of the "personal" issues was the imbalance between the two candidates in presented a balanced, holistic national leadership approach. I suppose, in that regard, it's easy to portray anything as personal. But, the main point of my post was to differentiate between the subjects of electoral strategy, and socio-economic phenomena and trends. My position over the last few posts has been focused, almost entirely, on a philosophical perspective related to the cultural and social antecedents and consequences of the election result.
I keep seeing more and more posts like this across the internet. Is it suggesting that the pro-Trump/anti-liberal electorate have an inferiority complex?
If you insult people it tends to get their backs up. I am not saying it was a deciding factor, but the talk that if you agreed with something Trump said you where deplorable, reinforced his supporters made them more determined to vote and possibly got some people who otherwise would not have voted to vote.
That sure is a big brush in which you paint. I really don't care if you hate the likes of me or anyone else - won't change my life one bit. My guess is you know nothing about me.
Your stance is entirely hypocritical - but my guess is that you can't see that at all. Personally, I hope many that hold the same opinion and amount of hate for anyone that don't share their views, like yourself, scream as loud as you can. The self righteous attitude will do wonders for the Democratic Party - and continue the free fall they are in.
You can hold your racist, misogynist signs as high as you can, but you and I both know the .01% of people you are trying to reach aren't listening. The other 99.9% of us that you so desperately despise will get a good laugh however. The fact that you and those that share your views can't grasp that is exactly why Trump is President.
Reminds me very much of my 7 year old when she doesn't get dessert after dinner.
Calm down a bit and enjoy your family, sounds like they are very important to you.
Your stance is entirely hypocritical - but my guess is that you can't see that at all. Personally, I hope many that hold the same opinion and amount of hate for anyone that don't share their views, like yourself, scream as loud as you can. The self righteous attitude will do wonders for the Democratic Party - and continue the free fall they are in.
You can hold your racist, misogynist signs as high as you can, but you and I both know the .01% of people you are trying to reach aren't listening. The other 99.9% of us that you so desperately despise will get a good laugh however. The fact that you and those that share your views can't grasp that is exactly why Trump is President.
Reminds me very much of my 7 year old when she doesn't get dessert after dinner.
Calm down a bit and enjoy your family, sounds like they are very important to you.
I don't get why all these liberals say everything Trump does is wrong.
CNN and New York Times are just pathetic. It's not journalism, the NYT paper is a big editorial section. CNN is just a propaganda machine for whoever they have contributed money to.
You say I am hypocritical, but fail to demonstrate why.
You say people like me will scream to the high heavens about racism and misogyny, but people like you will just laugh.....I mean, you've pretty much made my entire argument for me.
You are right that I know little about you. All I know is your stance on this political and ideological issue; and frankly, that is enough.
The idea that people are fundamentally decent, is truly dying.
Sorry but this is nonsense. There's been a lot of discussion on the more liberal left as to why Trump won, with many directing blame to more liberal, globalisation types: namely that globalisation is leaving people behind, that political correctness is something more conservative types get annoyed by, that Clinton and many centrist parties don't have a strong appeal etc. This has been a massive, massive topic of discussion.
Of course, there are certain factors that have to be noted - Trump didn't win the vote; he won the election based on an outdated, silly electoral system. As far as votes go, Clinton managed to beat him quite soundly in the end and continues to extend her lead.
And while I do think there's a lot that centrists/liberals need to do in regards to looking inwards in the US and across Europe, there's can only be so much apologism. Not everyone (and probably not the majority) of people who voted Trump is overtly racist, bigoted or sexist, but they've still ultimately voted for a sexist bigot who ran a campaign with elements of white nationalism behind it. That can't be denied, and yes, we need to see what can be done to reverse this and win such voters back over, but the harsh truth remains that...well, yeah, they voted for a bigot.
Basically, the liberal left need to take a good, long, hard look at themselves, but they can't be held responsible for the actions of Trump, or of his more abhorrent supporters. America have chosen a slightly unhinged, irresponsible, petty and perhaps even dangerous man to lead them. A significant portion of the country knew this about that man, and didn't vote for him. If it all goes wrong...well, they're not the ones to blame.
I still hold a strong belief that people are fundamentally decent - the difference is that my belief holds true even when they don't hold the same views as myself.
I realise the liberal left as you call them are asking those questions. But they never liked Clinton and do they represent that great of percentage of the Democratic Party? ( that is serious question because I do not really know the answer) it seems to me that the majority of the Party's leadership and it's elected officials are more middle of the road and they are not asking those questions.
It's interesting when you think about how the two camps approach politics:
Conservatives: 'We've done nothing wrong, it's all the PC liberal left and their lamestream media lackeys causing this, just give us power and you are grand'
Liberals: 'Sure, PC is a bit of a problem, we've yet to do the best we can, but our policies are better, and we will reach across to govern effectively. Btw, those cons are the cause of all this, when you think about it.'
If I'm a desperate, impoverished, disabilities ridden man in Appalachia, the second one sure don't seem that persuasive to me.
Conservatives: 'We've done nothing wrong, it's all the PC liberal left and their lamestream media lackeys causing this, just give us power and you are grand'
Liberals: 'Sure, PC is a bit of a problem, we've yet to do the best we can, but our policies are better, and we will reach across to govern effectively. Btw, those cons are the cause of all this, when you think about it.'
If I'm a desperate, impoverished, disabilities ridden man in Appalachia, the second one sure don't seem that persuasive to me.
I love Simon.
Fundamentally decent people wouldn't vote for a racist and misogynist. That is oxymoronic.
If one is going to vote for a candidate who espouses political standpoints which are, widely regarded, as socially abhorrent; then one has to accept that vote taking a formative role in people's identity construction of them.
In other words, if you vote for a racist, people are gonna think you're a dick.
This isn't even about right vs left. Large swarths of the established right distanced or disavowed themselves from him. This election has transcended the traditional political spectrum and moved into a cultural, race and information war.
I approve of this post. It's fundamentally decent.
I'm sucked in now - even though I should just leave it alone.
Your lot have talked yourself in to believing anyone who thinks differently than you is a racist, misogynist, etc.
I'll explain how it works - country needs to control immigration...RACIST! Makes a snide comment (I'll agree it was stupid) about grabbing p...MISOGYNIST! We have too many on welfare and need to improve job creation...RACIST! I'm not a big fan of Tupac...RACIST! Wow, she sure is hot, I wouldn't mind a piece of that...MISOGYNIST!
Your catch phrases have been so overused that they simply don't hold much meaning any longer. Instead of using dummyhead as you would in grade 2, the terms were just amped up so you could be heard. In the end, they have lost the true negative connotation they should have because they are thrown out at every chance, even when not applicable. What you really have done is take attention away from those that really are racist and misogynist by attempting to put it on those who are nothing of the sort.
You are correct though - fundamentally decent people wouldn't vote for a racist, but you need to realize, not everyone thinks he is a racist. On the flip side, fundamentally decent people wouldn't vote for a crook and someone who sat idle while fellow countrymen were killed. My guess is you don't think that way about HC, but please note I have not personally attacked you or anyone else that doesn't feel that way.
Appreciate the discussion.
Then he has not trafficked drugs into / out of china... has in fact committed no offence there so to suggest he faces the death penalty is I would suggest somebody embellishing things a little
This is spot on!
That was quite the edification. Thank you. A couple of minor points....
You missed a couple:
“If you look at his wife, she was standing there. She had nothing to say. She probably, maybe she wasn’t allowed to have anything to say. You tell me,” (To the Muslim Khan family)
“When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending the best. They’re not sending you, they’re sending people that have lots of problems and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists…"
“Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys wearing yarmulkes… Those are the only kind of people I want counting my money. Nobody else…Besides that, I tell you something else. I think that’s guy’s lazy. And it’s probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks,” From 1991 book.
“A well-educated black has a tremendous advantage over a well-educated white in terms of the job market. . . . If I were starting off today, I would love to be a well-educated black, because I believe they do have an actual advantage,” 1989 TV interview
“They don’t look like Indians to me and they don’t look like Indians to Indians,” 1993 Congressional hearing
“He’s a Mexican. We’re building a wall between here and Mexico. The answer is, he is giving us very unfair rulings – rulings that people can’t even believe,” About an Indiana Judge.
"Look, I’m a negotiator like you folks; we’re negotiators,” Addressing the Jewish coalition.
“Who the f knows? I mean, really, who knows how much the Japs will pay for Manhattan property these days?” 1989 interview
"He doesn't have a birth certificate, or if he does, there's something on that certificate that is very bad for him. Now, somebody told me -- and I have no idea if this is bad for him or not, but perhaps it would be -- that where it says 'religion,' it might have 'Muslim.' And if you're a Muslim, you don't change your religion, by the way," About the first Black US President.
* In the 70's he was sued by the Justice Department for discrimination against blacks.
* He proposed banning Muslims from entering the country.
* Took out full page ads in the newspaper asking for the death penalty for the Central Park 5. Then when they were exonerated through DNA evidence, unequivocally exonerated, has stuck to his guns that they are guilty. Even very recently. They are all black and hispanic.
* Former Trump employee Louise Sunshine, who worked from his from 1973-1985, told the Washington Post that the billionaire kept a 'fat picture' of her in his desk drawer, that he would take out when she did something he didn’t like.
“I would never buy Ivana any decent jewels or pictures. Why give her negotiable assets?” 1990 interview
"You know, it doesn't really matter what [they] write as long as you've got a young and beautiful piece of ass." Esquire interview
On gold medal winning ice-skater Katarina Witt: "Wonderful looking while on the ice but up close and personal, she could only be described as attractive if you like a woman with a bad complexion who is built like a linebacker".
"You have to treat 'em like sluts". New York Magazine interview 1992
“I have days where, if I come home — and I don't want to sound too much like a chauvinist,” the Republican said, “but when I come home and dinner's not ready, I go through the roof.” ABC 1994
“I think that putting a wife to work is a very dangerous thing,” ABC 1994
“There are basically three types of women and reactions. One is the good woman who very much loves her future husband, solely for himself, but refuses to sign the agreement on principle. I fully understand this, but the man should take a pass anyway and find someone else. The other is the calculating woman who refuses to sign the prenuptial agreement because she is expecting to take advantage of the poor, unsuspecting sucker she’s got in her grasp. There is also the woman who will openly and quickly sign a prenuptial agreement in order to make a quick hit and take the money given to her.” 1997 Trump: The Art of the Comeback
On how to make Miss USA pageant more appealing: "I’m going to get the bathing suits to be smaller and the heels to be higher’.”
“I have a deal with her ― Ivanka. She made me promise, swear to her that I would never date a girl younger than her. So as she grows older, the field is getting very limited.” She was 17.
On Princess Diana: “She had the height, she had the beauty, she had the skin — the whole thing. She was crazy, but these are minor details.”
"You know who's one of the great beauties of the world, according to everybody? And I helped create her. Ivanka. My daughter, Ivanka. She's 6 feet tall, she's got the best body. She made a lot money as a model—a tremendous amount"
"All of the women on The Apprentice flirted with me - consciously or unconsciously. That's to be expected." 2004
“I bet you make a great wife." 2005 The Apprentice (to contestant)
“If Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her.” 2006
“Rosie O'Donnell is disgusting, both inside and out. If you take a look at her, she's a slob. How does she even get on television? If I were running The View, I'd fire Rosie. I'd look her right in that fat, ugly face of hers and say, 'Rosie, you're fired.' We're all a little chubby but Rosie's just worse than most of us. But it's not the chubbiness - Rosie is a very unattractive person, both inside and out." 2006
On Angelina Jolie: “I really understand beauty. And I will tell you, she's not - I do own Miss Universe. I do own Miss USA. I mean I own a lot of different things. I do understand beauty, and she's not."
“They’ll walk up, and they’ll flip their top, and they’ll flip their panties.” 2008
"So when he had plenty of money, she liked him. But then after that, not as good, right?" On Anne Hathaway.
* 'Referring to the Miss USA pageant, Carrie Prejean, of which Trump was co-owner, claimed that the billionaire had the girls parade in front of him so he could separate those he found attractive from those he didn’t.' 2009
* “He asked the men to rate the women - he went down the line and asked the guys, ‘Who’s the most beautiful on the women’s team?’" Multiple Apprentice contestants, 2010
* 2011, calls opposing counsel "disgusting" for needing to take a break to breastfeed.
* After New York Times columnist Gail Collins wrote about rumours of Trump’s bankruptcy, he sent her a copy of her own article, with her picture circled and "the face of a dog!" scrawled across it.
."@ariannahuff is unattractive both inside and out. I fully understand why her former husband left her for a man- he made a good decision". Twitter 2012
* Asked by Williams what she and her father had in common, Ivanka replied "either real estate or golf." - Her father? He said: "Well, I was going to say sex, but I can't relate that to her" - pointing at his mortified daughter. 2013
"@ForeverMcIn: @realDonaldTrump how much would it take for you to make out with Rosie O'Donnell?" One trillion, at least!" - Twitter 2013
* Former playmate Brande Roderick was a contestant on Celebrity Apprentice in the US. During a tense boardroom battle, she knelt in front of Trump. “It must be a pretty picture. You dropping to your knee." 2013
"26,000 unreported sexual assults in the military-only 238 convictions. What did these geniuses expect when they put men & women together?" Twitter 2013
"How much money is the extremely unattractive (both inside and out) Arianna Huffington paying her poor ex-hubby for the use of his name?" Twitter 2014
"If Hilary Clinton can't satisfy her husband, what makes her think she can satisfy America?" Twitter 2015
* To Megyn Kelly: "@timjcam: @megynkelly @FrankLuntz @realDonaldTrump Fox viewers give low marks to bimbo @MegynKelly will consider other programs!"
* To Megyn Kelly again: "You could see there was blood coming out of her eyes. Blood coming out of her wherever."
“Heidi Klum. Sadly, she’s no longer a 10.”
* About Carly Fiorina: "Look at that face. Would anyone vote for that? Can you imagine that, the face of our next next president? I mean, she's a woman, and I'm not supposed to say bad things, but really, folks, come on. Are we serious?" 2015
"There has to be some form of punishment," he told MSNBC, referring to women who get an abortion.
"She doesn’t have the look." On Clinton (to be president)
* On Alicio Machado 1: "Fat"
* On Alicio Machado 2: "Miss Piggy"
* On Alicio Machado 3: "Miss Housekeeping"
* On Alicio Machado 4: "She was the winner and she gained a massive amount of weight, and it was real problem for us."
As for alleged criminal activity. Trump's business history, lawsuits, fraudulent behaviors, give us a rich pantheon of illegal material to draw on. One that will stand toe to toe with almost anyone. Even crooked Hillary. Trump has settled multiple such cases for financial compensation.
That's before we mention the numerous alleged cases of sexual assault.
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Wow... we are a failing fecking species... evolution is over and we are devolving at a startling rate... I blame twitter
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