The Trump Presidency | Biden Inaugurated
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A gimme of an opportunity to look Presidential and still ends up being racist. Sums him up.
Hmmmmmmmmmmm......
He's the President of the United States.....I can't keep a straight face anymore, it's so comical and bad. fecking joke the U.S. government has become. Dammit. 
Setting the stage for another video. I bet there are rumblings of a new one emerging soon.
Yup, it's been everywhere. I posted that Tweet last night (or the night before) where someone said he's got wind of another tape emerging and he's getting in there before it comes out. I've seen many say it's the racist Apprentice edits, but if it is then I doubt that would have much effect anyway. He's just been racist about Native Americans TO Native Americans in the fecking White House. A video of him using the N word wouldn't do much damage anymore (imho)
The alleged Pee Pee tapes however........
Mind you, knowing him if that did come out he'd probably sell the fecking things and it would go to the top 10 porn movies of all time. It really does appear the cnut can get away with anything.
Unless this ends in utter humiliation for Trump, no conclusion to this farce is going to feel satisfying. The man is a monumental prick.
I'd say it needs handcuffs.
He has an answer for that too!
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In a weird way, I almost think Trump would masochistically revel in the drama and controversy which would inevitably surround a major trial. For me the most fitting fate which could be thrust upon him, unlikely as it'd ever be, would be utter obscurity with no one really giving a feck about him.
Isn't that a portrait of Andrew Jackson right behind them too? Feck Sake
Satire is dead.By this logic Trump's election in the USA wasn't a pure right wing movement either.
And I am not 100% sure what you are trying to claim by the second bolded as its far too vague. Please expand and explain that comment.
Just once, when he tries this shit to peoples faces, I want someone to chin the fecker.
Whether its a Native American Code Talker, or some other world leader when he pulls that childish handshake shite, just put him on his arse.
Whether its a Native American Code Talker, or some other world leader when he pulls that childish handshake shite, just put him on his arse.
Brexit was backed by considerable portions of the Tory party over here, most of whom could be described as somewhere between centre-right and just bog-standard right-wing politicians. UKIP were obviously important as well but were partially excluded from the actual main campaign with the likes of Boris and Gove taking centre stage. Now I fecking hate Boris and Gove, but neither of them could be described as being anywhere near as far-right as Trump and the current GOP mob. Significant portions of Labour, Lib Dem and SNP voters supported Brexit. As a concept, it isn't inherently far-right or even right-wing. That's just mostly the way it's been framed because the prominent groups who've wanted to leave the EU were right-wing ones.
What he means with the second part, presumably, is that whereas the far-right remain relatively on the fringes in most parties, the American equivalent (if we're to take Trump as far-right) aren't on the fringes but instead control all branches of government and are highly powerful. European populists may pose a threat but none of them have anywhere near the strength of Trump and the Republicans.
Or at the very least just stand up to him for fecks sake. Turn around and say that he's being offensive and being a dick. It's infuriating how this one man gets away with things on a daily basis that would cost anyone else their job and reputation.
Great response about CNN International being fake news.....
Isn't that a portrait of Andrew Jackson right behind them too? Feck Sake
There is no way that is an accident or coincidence.
Its deliberate from a bunch if racist feckers. Miller would be my guess for that one.
Was about to post it. fecking incredible! This is the Presidente of the USA!
When we were 70%+ confident he'd lose the election I expressed similar hope. I feel like I've been paying for my vindictiveness ever since.
I have yet to see anything to convince that the Brexit voter - Trump voter demographic are not as analogous as it gets between the two countries. The two movements pulled from the same analogous demographics in each country. You talk about how Torys backed Brexit that weren't far right. But that is exactly the same as the huge segments of USA's establishment and average Republicans and tech libertarians who voted for Trump but are just bog standard centre-right interests.
To assume the average Trump voter has the same mindset as the average "poster" on /r/the_donald is making a massive error. Your UKIP line can practically be mirrored exactly with "Breitbart and Roger Stone were obviously important as well but were partially excluded from the actual main campaign with the likes of Koch Brothers' appointee Pence and establishment interest groups taking centre stage". Trump had many voters and vocal supports who could not be "described as being anywhere near as far-right as Trump". In fact historical Trump himself is not anywhere near as far-right as Trump the Candidate.
I really think some people are mistakenly making the problematic over-generalization: "Trump won therefore everyone that voted for Trump thinks like the most radical and most vocal online Trump advocates".
This short paragraph makes a lot of assumptions and packages a great many concepts together. It would take more time than I have to deconstruct all of this but in short, you are basing too much on assumptions and this angle contains undertones of European Exceptionalism that are misplaced imo. Before I go further here have you seen the Netflix documentary Get Me Roger Stone? I feel that is the best place to establish common ground for future discussion so let me know when you have seen that.
Irrespective of the attitude of the common voter, the rhetoric used during the Brexit debate was inherently much, much less extreme than that expressed by Trump. Voters opted for Brexit due to a variety of reasons; central to this was the fact that the actual government themselves weren't pro-Brexit, meaning voters projected their own ideas onto the vote. Which was an incredibly stupid thing to do, I'll add, but nevertheless it's the approach they took. You'll hear of plenty of lefties who voted for Brexit on the basis that we'd eventually see a Corbyn government who could implement their own version of Brexit, something again backed by the fact that a lot of Labour voters opted for Brexit. And again, about a third of Lib Dem and SNP voters did the same. Trump, however, was actively vying for President himself; there's a fundamental difference there. And the Republican party as a whole, are both economically a lot more far-right than the current UK Tory party and are a lot more socially regressive than them, in regards to things like healthcare economically, and abortion, gay marriage etc socially. That's a fact I don't think anyone would dispute.
My last paragraph isn't making assumptions; it's just commenting on the commonly accepted fact that the European equivalents of the current GOP party in America don't have political power right now. Discussions about how America differs from Europe etc are interesting but they ignore the fundamental point being made here and I feel you're side-stepping the point I've made.
Three cocksuckers set the agenda every morning for the fake president.
You assume all Trump voters voted for him for the same reasons while all Brexit voters had different reasons.
In reality Trump voters were just as diverse and had just as diverse reasons as Brexit voters.
BTW Do any of your British parties believe in getting rid of your outdated monarchy and liquidating all Royal assets in favor of re-investing for the people's benefit?
My only point is that the rise of right-wing movements is hardly limited to the US and while Trump is one example, that just shows how western European has gotten used to Putin and inherently ultra-conservative structures that exist in western Europe (royalty in the UK, fascist influence on government in Spain, corruption in Italy from P2 to Berlusconi, Eastern Europe radical right movements, right wing Turkish denial of Armenian genocide, etc).
You are absolutely correct that the right-wing nationalist mentality manifests differently from UK to France to Ukraine to Turkey to China to Indonesia. But it is there and to focus on the resurgence of the right wing in one country only is dangerous as ALL nationalist movements feed off each other ffs.
Just look at Weiner's first dick pic (not the one beside his baby or to the teenager) compared to Joe Barton's. This is a party that would rather an idiot like Trump or a child molestor to a Democrat. If Trump or Moore ran as a democrat I would have no issues what so ever in voting for a republican. Nearly every shitty thing that happens in this country on a legal or social levelcan be sourced back to a conservative republican.
You're acting as if the examples of Spain and Italy are particularly recent or new. Spain was quite literally governed by fascists until a few decades ago. Italy has regularly been mired by political corruption and, again, the rise of Berlusconi as a prominent politician happened decades ago. Obviously Italy continues to face populist parties...but again, that's not new.
My point was originally that some of the examples you used (Britain, France and Germany) don't really work because the far-right parties in all three countries either don't have any influence on government or are nowhere near as popular as the GOP in the US. That's not to say that there are significant problems in said countries. And I'd never deny that populism and far-right populism isn't a problem in many countries like Russia, Turkey etc, because it absolutely is, but I'd have to disagree with some of the examples you brought up.
You're acting as if the examples of Spain and Italy are particularly recent or new. Spain was quite literally governed by fascists until a few decades ago. Italy has regularly been mired by political corruption and, again, the rise of Berlusconi as a prominent politician happened decades ago. Obviously Italy continues to face populist parties...but again, that's not new.
My point was originally that some of the examples you used (Britain, France and Germany) don't really work because the far-right parties in all three countries either don't have any influence on government or are nowhere near as popular as the GOP in the US. That's not to say that there are significant problems in said countries. And I'd never deny that populism and far-right populism isn't a problem in many countries like Russia, Turkey etc, because it absolutely is, but I'd have to disagree with some of the examples you brought up.
" Prince Harry told me I would probably be best man but would have to put on a suit that fit. I said probably isn't good enough and turned it down. #failing royals"
Can be proven to be a lie by hundred of thousands of people yet 20% of America will believe it without question and ask for Shep Smith to be executed when he tells the they are wrong and to go feck themselves.
So Theresa May's government which supports a monarchy among all the other major conservative positions as the US GOP is not as influential in the UK as the GOP in the US?
I am sorry but I really don't understand your point or thesis. You jumped in to argue against me when I was responding to another guy.
It feels a bit like you are excusing older right wing movements simple because they are older and to you they are "not new" whereas apparently Trump represents something new to you personally.
He's the leader of a friggin cult at this stage.
The monarchy here is ceremonial. I'm no fan of them but they don't dictate policy. And May's government aren't as extreme economically or socially as Trump's. The Tories (albeit reluctantly, I'd argue) support the NHS, while Trump's government balk at the very idea of universal healthcare. A Tory PM allowed gay marriage to pass (albeit while a lot of his party were against it) while the current Vice President isn't against gay conversion therapy. Similarly, abortion is generally accepted here while many GOP politicians are ardently against it. I can't stand the Tories but the idea they're anywhere near as extreme as the GOP is nonsense.
I'm not excusing far-right movements here. I'm saying that in countries like France, Germany and the UK they don't hold political power while in the US the GOP control all branches of government. That's a fact. And it's not me aiming to dismiss European right-wing populism, or trying to deny it's a problem, but merely highlighting that it's not as big a problem over here in many Western as it is in the US currently. And I also pointed out that in the past year or so several right-wing movements have actually seen a fall in support; Wilders fared a lot more poorly than expected in the Netherlands, the story of the UK election was the rise of the left in Corbyn, Le Pen was resoundingly defeated in France, and the AfD in Germany ended up finishing with 12%, a result which while showing they certainly have support, nevertheless means that the vast majority of Germans aren't willing to opt for right-wing populism, especially when compared to how Trump fared in the US.
i believe Langster. I think he has toxoplasmosis from drinking piss the same way John McAfee has it from eating shite through a hammock (if you haven't seen the doc, watch it). Crazy feckers the both of them.Yup, it's been everywhere. I posted that Tweet last night (or the night before) where someone said he's got wind of another tape emerging and he's getting in there before it comes out. I've seen many say it's the racist Apprentice edits, but if it is then I doubt that would have much effect anyway. He's just been racist about Native Americans TO Native Americans in the fecking White House. A video of him using the N word wouldn't do much damage anymore (imho)
The alleged Pee Pee tapes however........
Mind you, knowing him if that did come out he'd probably sell the fecking things and it would go to the top 10 porn movies of all time. It really does appear the cnut can get away with anything.
Fecking disgusting.
He uses the same tactics. The biggest issue for me is that he has never had to face the consequences of his actions. That's why I hope Mueller fecking destroys him.
The Andrew Jackson thing on top of that is just ridiculous. If I didn't already know they were so breathtakingly incompetent I'd think it was a deliberate insult.
Your monarchy is technically "ceremonial" yet they control billions in assets, receive millions per year in subsidy from the taxpayers, control an enormous amount of cultural and pop media influence and symbolically embody the idea that some humans are better than others and deserve to be propped up in luxury based on bizarre historical precedent.
Is it possible you overestimate the power of right wing ideas in the US and underestimate the influence of the far right ideas in Europe, Russia, Latin America and Asia?
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