Does Trump have 9 lives or what? I thought he'd be impeached by now.
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The investigators are putin in lots of hours & russian to get it done.
I can't wait for this weekends Last Week Tonight.
Thanks for the 1000 page present, Donny!
this emoluments case the Dems are bringing will be interesting.
Will tell if the 5 corporate stooges in the SC will actually uphold the law.
Will tell if the 5 corporate stooges in the SC will actually uphold the law.
And only been in power for four months. We will need a separate server just for this thread by the end of the year!!
According to David Gergen, the investigation has three prongs now.
1. Russian Collusion
2. Financial Crimes
3. Obstruction of Justice
1. Russian Collusion
2. Financial Crimes
3. Obstruction of Justice
There is absolutely no way in hell they are going to be clear of all charges.
If it was just the first one then the GOP would bring down a few of his satellites and that would be the end of it.
If it was just the second, they'd keep blocking his tax returns and hand out a few slap on the wrist for associates who have made some questionable deals and bury the rest.
If it was just the third, they'd put it down to his exuberance and naivety in the role.
With all three it's going to be very very difficult for the GOP to not take action.
Hmmm... Still don't know what to make of this. Half expecting him to walk thru this brick wall like he had been doing for a little while now...
I've always been skeptical of the other two but this is the one I'm convinced he's committed crimes, even before running for office. It is also the area he'll try his hardest to hide.
He struggles enough with one, no way does he speak two..
In terms of impeachment, the obstruction of justice charge seems to be the strongest. If Mueller privately interviews Comey, Coates, and Rodgers, and each of them individually suggest Trump wanted them to squash the investigation, then that will be that.
For the financial crimes bit, keep an eye on the Kushner/Kislyak meetings as well as the Erik Prince in the Seychelles piece.
The presidency is just an adjunct to his business dealings.
Impeachment is never something that happens quickly it is not just some vote that the House just has one day and they pass it over to the Senate where they have a quick hearing and boom they vote. Plus as has been pointed out many times before impeachment is basically a political process, voted on by politicians who have loyalty to their party. So with the Repubs in control of the House, it will take a great deal for them to even bring impeachment proceedings to the floor.
What financial crimes? His lawyers will have that tied up real tight imo. Emoluments and maybe tax avoidance (not evasion) are the most likely here.
There's been a long running suspicion that Russian executives have been using Trump properties for money laundering since US sanctions restrict them.
They will want to know whether they was any sort of quid pro quo between the Russians and Trump's campaign/new administration in terms of whether Kushner and/or Trump himself would get favorable business postures from Putin in exchange for dropping sanctions and looking the other way on Ukraine and Syria - or for the Russian countermeasures campaign during the elections.
Nice little story here with some brave but very honest comments from a Republican. Although many would argue the time for soul searching passed months ago, if genuine, it's definitely better late than never. Trump's odious comments, attitude and example is definitely responsible for much of the hatred displayed on both sides. He is definitely responsible for bringing much of it to the surface and he certainly hasn't at any point tried to discourage violence, if anything he has encouraged it and he has at no point led by any decent example. I think now it's becoming too much for many Republicans to stomach, hopefully they will soon all start to collectively turn their backs on him.
Is there a scope to Mueller's investigative powers or does he have free reign? For example, if he stumbles across non Russia related financial irregularities, does he pursue those himself or leave them to someone else?
It is limited in that sense. He also has to have any actions approved by the AG, or in this case the Deputy AG.
He has free reign as long as the things he pursues were someone linked to his original mandate. So if he's pursuing collusion and discovers obstruction of justice, then that's all in play. Likewise if he's looking at collusion and discovers both financial crimes or anything similar, then that's also in play. He is also backed by the full resources of the FBI's investigative power.
The best example was the Bill Clinton case in the 90s. It started with an investigation into a land deal in Arkansas (Whitewater) and wound up with Clinton getting impeached in the house of representatives for the Monica Lewinsky affair. Completely unrelated but still nailed him. Trump is in similar jeopardy a mere 5 months into his first year.
An excellent article by the WaPo outlining the investigation, where it started, where it is now, where it could end up, and why. The Post and New York Times have been outstanding in recent weeks and months. It's almost as if Trump has brought out the best in investigative journalism once more.
That one tweet really sums up Trump's mindset, incompetence, inability to think strategically and how entertaining the end product of it all truly is.
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It's actually quite clever from Putin because he is fuelling the idea that Comey has in some way "betrayed" America. Like Snowden, his actions are in some way not patriotic.
It's hilarious. The impudent twit could've probably cleared the original investigation but just had to trip on his own dick (especially figurative in his case most likely).
Trump's lawyer basically sounds like Saul Goodman.
You're right that the brain dead alt-right will spin it that way but anyone with even two brain cells to rub together knows that the President isn't the county, and patriotism goes above the man.
The treasonous one is Trump himself. Comey's actions are those of a man who knows what patriotism really is and who wants the truth established rather than hidden.
GOP congressman: Trump may lack language 'discipline' to avoid appearance of investigation interference
FFS - I'm out. I can't handle any more spin.
FFS - I'm out. I can't handle any more spin.
What he meant to say was...
Ergo.. He's a fecking idiot.
He'll ended up admitting his own crime ala jack nicholson, and say what? I'd do what i have to do and I'll do it again.
White House just confirmed Drumpf met with Mueller for the FBI job the day before he was appointed special prosecutor. So basically any attempt by Trump and his allies to discredit Mueller will be met with the fact that Trump thought highly enough of him to interview him for the FBI Director position.
To me that looks like they were tipped off about his offer for the special counsel role and Trump made a play to bring him into a position under Trumps direct authority. Obviously that can't be proven but if it was the case it's more attempted obstruction of justice?
Keeping his promises...by telling Cuba to bugger off and that that whole reconciliation deal was just a joke. Not sure why; Obama I guess.
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/...lan-to-roll-back-parts-of-cuba-thaw-on-friday
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/...lan-to-roll-back-parts-of-cuba-thaw-on-friday
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