Gaming The Europa Universalis 4 Experiment II (sign ups for Experiment III open)

Phil Jones Face said:
Be careful what you wish for.

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Come and get it

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Uh oh Italian bros.

The war was very one sided, as you'd expect. RedSky's mercenaries sieged down all of Venice for PSV, while PSV went for the jugular and marched on WI_Red directly.

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The result of the war was Organic Potatoes ceding Ferrara to Genoa and WI_Red becoming PSV's junior partner.

Dan said:
@Cheimoon your lands are mine. :lol:
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Not so fast, sonny.

altodevil has swarmed Cheimoon and captured all his land. The Ottomans have recruited Cheimoon's Christians to serve as janissairies in its army. He is now a vassal of altodevil.

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In other news:

  1. Shakesey annexed all of Ireland. He’s limited to staring and shaking his fist at Scotland, who is allied with PSV and Solius. Didn’t Shakesey “help” Solius in his independence war?!
  2. altodevil declared war on Croatia and annexed them fully. The lack of a strong Austro/Hungarian alliance is really hurting the Balkans here. I’d have expected at least 100,000 Austrians to be dead by now. The Ottomans now directly border Austria.
  3. Cheimoon allied Cilli. Which was quite silly, as they only had an army of 4,000 men.
  4. Crackers is trying to invite free cities to join the HRE, but it isn’t enough to improve his authority.
  5. nimic and Salt Bailly have found the new world. Salt Bailly has started colonising the caribbean, while nimic is going hard for Brazil. The Pope declared the caribbean to be Salt Bailly's solely.
  6. Salt Bailly declared war on Tclemcen in north Africa and has taken a sizable portion of it.
  7. Friesland, who is allied to PSV, declared war on SilentWitness. PSV didn’t help Friesland. SilentWitness easily won the war and fully annexed Friesland. Pretty nice turn around!
  8. GreatDane has allied Crackers.
  9. Dan annexed Danzig.
  10. maniak convinced The Palatinate to become its junior partner. The Palatinate is one of the electors.
 
Phil Jones Face said:
Friesland, who is allied to PSV, declared war on SilentWitness. PSV didn’t help Friesland. SilentWitness easily won the war and fully annexed Friesland. Pretty nice turn around!
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Ah! So it was a war declaration, sorry, language barrier. Has anyone ever heard Friesich(?), sounds nutter.
 
1494 - 50 year update
1494 - 50 year update

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Shamelessly copying nimic's ideas:

Note: some stats can be misleading. For example, nations in personal unions are counted separately.


Development (value of provinces):

  1. altodevil: 802
  2. PSV: 690
  3. P-Nut: 501
  4. Dr. Dwayne: 498
  5. Dan: 465
  6. Shakesey: 440
  7. nimic: 418
  8. Simbo: 269
  9. Salt Bailly: 265
  10. Solius: 201

Land army size:

  1. altodevil: 81,000
  2. PSV: 75,000
  3. P-Nut: 60,000
  4. Dan: 51,000
  5. Crackers: 49,000
  6. nimic: 42,000
  7. Shakesey: 40,000
  8. Dr. Dwayne: 35,000
  9. hobbers: 27,000
  10. Simbo: 27,000
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99999. Cheimoon: 4,000


Navy size:

  1. altodevil: 56
  2. nimic: 46
  3. Shakesey: 44
  4. P-Nut: 39
  5. Organic Potatoes: 38
  6. PSV: 31
  7. maniak: 27
  8. Solius: 25
  9. Simbo: 24
  10. Dan: 20

Total income:

  1. altodevil: 73
  2. PSV: 72
  3. nimic: 54
  4. P-Nut: 50
  5. Shakesey: 48
  6. Organic Potatoes: 46
  7. Dan: 37
  8. Dr. Dwayne: 35
  9. Crackers: 30
  10. Salt Bailly: 27

Mana generated (i.e, how lucky you've been with your monarch spawn stats or events and how much you've spent improving your country):

  1. altodevil: 18360
  2. Organic Potatoes: 15682
  3. P-Nut: 15352
  4. nimic: 15254
  5. PSV: 15190
  6. Solius: 15008
  7. Simbo: 14756
  8. RedSky: 13820
  9. Salt Bailly: 13787
  10. Dr. Dwayne: 12945

Ideas chosen (provide important buffs, generated by mana):

12: nimic, altodevil
11: P-Nut, Salt Bailly
10: PSV, Crackers, Simbo, Organic Potatoes
9: Cheimoon, WI_Red, Solius
8: RedSky, maniak
7. Dan
6. hobbers, The Cat, SilentWitness
5. Shakesey, GreatDane
4. Dr. Dwayne
2. MadDogg

Army casualties (in combat + attrition:)

  1. altodevil: 272 989​
  2. PSV: 162 075​
  3. nimic: 120 771​
  4. Shakesey: 116 242​
  5. Dan: 109 568​
  6. P-Nut: 105 987​
  7. Dr. Dwayne: 103 433​
  8. Cheimoon: 89 539​
  9. Organic Potatoes: 81 038​
  10. The Cat: 71 878​

Navy casualties:

  1. Organic Potatoes: 25
  2. Solius: 21
  3. The Cat: 20
  4. Simbo: 16
  5. maniak: 15
  6. Shakesey: 14
  7. WI_Red: 13
  8. PSV: 12
  9. nimic: 10
  10. altodevil: 10



Dead players:

  1. Eboue




Religious map

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Tech map (the greener you are, the more tech you've embraced and the bigger advantages you have over your neighbours):

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The state of the HRE. It is close to passing the first reform, which gives the Emperor more diplomats and better diplomatic reputation:

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The dynastic map:

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Phil Jones Face said:
1494 - 50 year update

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Shamelessly copying nimic's ideas:

Note: some stats can be misleading. For example, nations in personal unions are counted separately.


Development (value of provinces):

  1. altodevil: 802
  2. PSV: 690
  3. P-Nut: 501
  4. Dr. Dwayne: 498
  5. Dan: 465
  6. Shakesey: 440
  7. nimic: 418
  8. Simbo: 269
  9. Salt Bailly: 265
  10. Solius: 201

Land army size:

  1. altodevil: 81,000
  2. PSV: 75,000
  3. P-Nut: 60,000
  4. Dan: 51,000
  5. Crackers: 49,000
  6. nimic: 42,000
  7. Shakesey: 40,000
  8. Dr. Dwayne: 35,000
  9. hobbers: 27,000
  10. Simbo: 27,000
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99999. Cheimoon: 4,000


Navy size:

  1. altodevil: 56
  2. nimic: 46
  3. Shakesey: 44
  4. P-Nut: 39
  5. Organic Potatoes: 38
  6. PSV: 31
  7. maniak: 27
  8. Solius: 25
  9. Simbo: 24
  10. Dan: 20

Total income:

  1. altodevil: 73
  2. PSV: 72
  3. nimic: 54
  4. P-Nut: 50
  5. Shakesey: 48
  6. Organic Potatoes: 46
  7. Dan: 37
  8. Dr. Dwayne: 35
  9. Crackers: 30
  10. Salt Bailly: 27

Mana generated (i.e, how lucky you've been with your monarch spawn stats or events and how much you've spent improving your country):

  1. altodevil: 18360
  2. Organic Potatoes: 15682
  3. P-Nut: 15352
  4. nimic: 15254
  5. PSV: 15190
  6. Solius: 15008
  7. Simbo: 14756
  8. RedSky: 13820
  9. Salt Bailly: 13787
  10. Dr. Dwayne: 12945

Ideas chosen (provide important buffs, generated by mana):

12: nimic, altodevil
11: P-Nut, Salt Bailly
10: PSV, Crackers, Simbo, Organic Potatoes
9: Cheimoon, WI_Red, Solius
8: RedSky, maniak
7. Dan
6. hobbers, The Cat, SilentWitness
5. Shakesey, GreatDane
4. Dr. Dwayne
2. MadDogg

Army casualties (in combat + attrition:)

  1. altodevil: 272 989​
  2. PSV: 162 075​
  3. nimic: 120 771​
  4. Shakesey: 116 242​
  5. Dan: 109 568​
  6. P-Nut: 105 987​
  7. Dr. Dwayne: 103 433​
  8. Cheimoon: 89 539​
  9. Organic Potatoes: 81 038​
  10. The Cat: 71 878​
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Hey look, I'm also in some lists! Take that, @Dan and @Crackers!
 
News from nimic!

His explorers have landed in Brazil and fed back reports to court in Castille of "angry primitives, speaking a strange unrecognisable language, with weird walking habits, strange facial markings and piercings". He has called these strange natives "El Scousers".

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Salt Bailly rubs his hands together gleefully as he takes the prime caribbean real estate.

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Interestingly, Shakesey hasn't decided to pick exploration ideas yet, having opted for admin and quality instead. His Scottish rival however has opted for exploration ideas. Perhaps they'll beat Shakesey to north America? That'll be classic Shakesey. Maybe we did need a Scotland player afterall @SilentWitness
 
Some monarch and ideas groups stats. The ruler stats are maxed out at 6/6/6 and 0/0/0 denotes a regency. The first number represents admin prowess, the second diplomatic prowess and the third military prowess. The monarch stats enable you to research ideas.

The idea groups give a unique buff for each level. They can combine with other unqiue ideas once maxed to create a stronger buff. e.g military ideas make your armies stronger and larger, admin ideas makes it cheaper to expand and improves your economy, diplomatic ideas makes it easier to form vassal swarms, trade or explore


Green = admin ideas
Blue = diplomatic ideas
Red = military ideas



Aragon - Simbo


Ruler nameReign startReign endStats
14502/4/6
145014663/2/4
146614665/6/3
1466-5/6/3


  1. Offensive ideas: 5/7
  2. Innovative ideas: 5/7

Austria - Crackers


Ruler nameReign startReign endStats
14802/5/1
1480-3/3/2


  1. Influence ideas: 7/7
  2. Quality ideas: 3/7


Bohemia - hobbers


Ruler nameReign startReign endStats
14472/2/2
144714475/4/3
144714713/4/3
147114712/4/4
1471-2/1/0

  1. Innovative ideas: 5/7

Brandenburg - GreatDane


Ruler nameReign startReign endStats
14743/3/2
147414912/2/1
1491-2/2/1

  1. Administrative ideas: 5/7


Castille - nimic


Ruler nameReign startReign endStats
14572/2/3
145714592/2/2
145914663/1/3
1466-5/6/3

  1. Exploration ideas: 7/7
  2. Expansion ideas: 5/7

Denmark - maniak


Ruler nameReign startReign endStats
14623/2/2
1462-1/2/4

  1. Trade ideas: 5/7
  2. Offensive ideas: 3/7

England - Shakesey


Ruler nameReign startReign endStats
14480/0/0
144814520/2/4
145214840/4/3
148414883/4/2
1488-6/1/1

  1. Administrative ideas: 3/7
  2. Quality ideas: 2/7

France - PSV


Ruler nameReign startReign endStats
14474/2/4
144714764/3/2
147614831/2/5
148314923/2/5
1492-5/2/0

  1. Administrative ideas: 5/7
  2. Quantity ideas:

Great Horde - MadDogg


Ruler nameReign startReign endStats
14600/0/2
146014841/3/2
1484-3/4/6


1. Horde government idea: 2/7



Holland - SilentWitness


Ruler nameReign startReign endStats
14442/1/1
144414475/5/5
144714480/2/3
144814562/0/4
145614561/6/3
145614574/5/3
145714573/3/3
1457-5/4/4

  1. Innovative ideas: 6/7
  2. Defensive ideas: 0/7


Hungary - Cheimoon


Ruler nameReign startReign endStats
14444/3/3
144414450/0/0
144514550/0/0
145514553/3/2
145514632/2/2
146314774/5/6
147714780/0/0
1478-5/3/3

  1. Innovative ideas: 7/7
  2. Defensive ideas: 2/7

Mamluks - P-Nut


Ruler nameReign startReign endStats
14472/2/3
144714612/5/2
146114762/2/5
147614876/6/3
1487-6/1/3

  1. Defensive ideas: 6/7
  2. Administrative ideas: 5/7


Milan - RedSky


Ruler nameReign startReign endStats
14461/2/2
144614481/4/3
144814524/1/1
145214615/5/5
146114914/2/4
1491-2/5/2

  1. Espionage ideas: 5/7
  2. Defensive ideas: 3/7

Muscovy - Dr Dwayne


Ruler nameReign startReign endStats
14463/1/2
144614463/3/1
144614483/5/4
144814683/1/2
1468-3/4/5

  1. Religious ideas: 5/7

Naples - WI_Red


Ruler nameReign startReign endStats
14442/2/2
144414502/4/6
145014503/2/4
145014532/4/4
145314702/1/2
147014732/2/3
147314925/3/3
1492-5/2/0

  1. Innovative ideas: 7/7
  2. Defensive ideas: 2/7

Ottomans - altodevil


Ruler nameReign startReign endStats
144414776/4/6
147714825/2/4
1482-3/3/1

  1. Quality ideas: 7/7
  2. Administrative ideas: 2/7

Poland - Dan


Ruler nameReign startReign endStats
144414490/0/0
144914794/4/1
1479-5/2/3

  1. Administrative ideas: 7/7
  2. Quality ideas: 0/7

Portugal - Salt Bailly


Ruler nameReign startReign endStats
14474/2/1
1447-3/3/4

  1. Exploration ideas: 7/7
  2. Expansion ideas: 4/7

Sweden - Solius


Ruler nameReign startReign endStats
144414445/6/4
144414453/2/2
144514505/3/0
145014686/4/4
146814865/4/6
1486-2/2/2

  1. Administrative ideas: 7/7
  2. Quality ideas: 2/7

Tunis - The Cat


ler nameReign startReign endStats
14671/3/3
1467-3/2/4

  1. Economic ideas: 6/7

Venice - Organic Potatoes


Ruler nameReign startReign endStats
14544/4/4
145414584/2/3
145814624/3/4
146214666/4/4
146614672/4/6
146714715/6/5
147114742/6/4
147414776/5/4
147714811/6/4
148114853/6/1
148514896/1/3
148914932/6/4
1493-5/6/1

  1. Trade ideas: 7/7
  2. Quality ideas: 3/7

 
Not been getting tags for this. Very happy with that start but I'm sure the crusades will start soon.
 
Started off with a great ruler and now I’ve got an amoeba.
 
altodevil said:
Not been getting tags for this. Very happy with that start but I'm sure the crusades will start soon.
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I'm actually quite surprised with your rapid expansion. Admittedly I haven't played EU4 for a while. Usually the Ottomans are strong, but don't go off that hard. I blame @Crackers. I think @P-Nut will be counting his blessings you're going westward. instead!
Solius said:
Started off with a great ruler and now I’ve got an amoeba.
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You've had some pretty great rulers to be fair! The weighted average for monarchs so far is:

1st altodevil
2nd you
3rd Simbo
4th Organic Potatoes
5th SilentWitness

Damien said:
Done. They can now tag up to 40 people no problem.
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Thanks!
 
Phil Jones Face said:
Ideas chosen (provide important buffs, generated by mana):

12: nimic, altodevil
11: P-Nut, Salt Bailly
10: PSV, Crackers, Simbo, Organic Potatoes
9: Cheimoon, WI_Red, Solius
8: RedSky, maniak
7. Dan
6. hobbers, The Cat, SilentWitness
5. Shakesey, GreatDane
4. Dr. Dwayne
2. MadDogg
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Yes! I made it on to a list!

Oh...

Idea's are overrated anyway. Thinking is for the weak!
 
MadDogg said:
Yes! I made it on to a list!

Oh...

Idea's are overrated anyway. Thinking is for the weak!
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Your base income was decent, you were on par with Bohemia, Sweden, Milan, Naples, Brandenburg, etc. This was increased with the Horde's raiding and pillaging neighbours.

But then @Dr. Dwayne happened.

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P-Nut said:
I seem to just be quietly going about my business. Has anything major happened for me yet really @Phil Jones Face
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I think that's for the best, actually!

No involvement in player wars, but you're chugging along nicely and eating up the Arabs. I'd say you're performing slightly better than what I would have expected you to have at this stage. Seem strong all round.

Salt Bailly is squeezing the tribes in north Africa, so he might come into conflict with your ally The Cat soon.
 
Phil Jones Face said:
I think that's for the best, actually!

No involvement in player wars, but you're chugging along nicely and eating up the Arabs. I'd say you're performing slightly better than what I would have expected you to have at this stage. Seem strong all round.

Salt Bailly is squeezing the tribes in north Africa, so he might come into conflict with your ally The Cat soon.
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Nice just keep ticking over until we can launch an assault on Europe :lol:
 
Phil Jones Face said:
You're also topping the loans list, with 6 loans taken.

Let's hope big daddy @altodevil pays your loans off for you. With an income of 8, expenses of 6 and rising inflation due to the loans that you can't pay off, you risk going bankrupt. :wenger:
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The other lists I was on weren't really flattering either. Or my position wasn't, anyway. :wenger:
 
nimic said:
I thought we had a special relationship, Damo. But now you're just handing out tag-privileges to anyone.
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You don't want to know the shameful things I had to do to get it :(
 
maniak said:
You don't want to know the shameful things I had to do to get it :(
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I know, it's absolutely humiliating to post in places where I might read your post. Sorry about that.
 
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Mixed bag for the Emperor @Crackers. He managed to pass an Imperial reform which greatly enhances his diplomatic prowess, but failed to reign in the Italian states in time. They have escaped the Imperial clutches for eternity.

P-Nut said:
I seem to just be quietly going about my business. Has anything major happened for me yet really @Phil Jones Face
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After @WI_Red tempted fate yesterday, you would have thought people would have learnt to not test the Gods.

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It's a clash of titans.

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@altodevil caught @P-Nut with his pants down and declared war while the Ottoman armies were prepared at the border and 3/4 of the Mamluk armies were down in Arabia. The Ottoman's launched a quick naval invasion of Crete, where the Mamluk navy lay in harbour. By threatening to capture Crete, it forced the Mamluk navy to sea where the much larger Ottoman navy lay in wait. The Ottomans sunk a couple of ships before the Mamluk galleys fled to Alexandria, refusing to give battle after. The Ottomans controlled the seas until the end of the war.

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On land, the Ottomans were able to win battles convincingly. By exploiting the unpreparedness of the Mamluks, Halab quickly fell and the Turks exploited a network of forts, enabling them to defeat the Mamluk armies piecemeal. While the Ottoman offensive was co-ordinated, the Mamluk armies worked independently of one another and were smashed in the larger battles.

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There were a few notable victories for the Mamluks and the casualties at the end of the war were fairly even, but the damage had already been done at the beginning.

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P-Nut surrendered. I think the terms were very generous on the Mamluks, all considered.

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However...

One by one, the Free Lands of Middle-East fell to the power of the Turks. - But there were some who resisted. - A Last Alliance of Austrians and Poles....
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... Christendom has finally reacted. Led by the Emperor @Crackers, he has with @hobbers, @Organic Potatoes, @Dan, the Pope and several minor states formed a coalition vowing to bring altodevil to heel. But dare they strike?




In other news:

  1. The Cat annexed Tclemcen, Kabylia and Algiers. He now borders Salt Bailly.
  2. Kazan declared war on MadDogg, in revenge for MadDogg’s earlier aggression against them. MadDogg lost a further 50% of hist territory. altodevil didn’t look favourably upon Dr Dwayne or Kazan bullying MadDogg. The Ottomans have guaranteed The Great Horde’s independence, giving them a lifeline
  3. Dr. Dwayne continued following the sound Dr. Dwayne strategy of waiting until others fight, before declaring on them. He attacked and beat Kazan.
  4. Crackers annexed Baden and Bregenz
  5. RedSky allied Crackers to stave off the PSV threat.
 
Phil Jones Face said:
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Mixed bag for the Emperor @Crackers. He managed to pass an Imperial reform which greatly enhances his diplomatic prowess, but failed to reign in the Italian states in time. They have escaped the Imperial clutches for eternity.



After @WI_Red tempted fate yesterday, you would have thought people would have learnt to not test the Gods.

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It's a clash of titans.

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@altodevil caught @P-Nut with his pants down and declared war while the Ottoman armies were prepared at the border and 3/4 of the Mamluk armies were down in Arabia. The Ottoman's launched a quick naval invasion of Crete, where the Mamluk navy lay in harbour. By threatening to capture Crete, it forced the Mamluk navy to sea where the much larger Ottoman navy lay in wait. The Ottomans sunk a couple of ships before the Mamluk galleys fled to Alexandria, refusing to give battle after. The Ottomans controlled the seas until the end of the war.

vIJKgRj.png


On land, the Ottomans were able to win battles convincingly. By exploiting the unpreparedness of the Mamluks, Halab quickly fell and the Turks exploited a network of forts, enabling them to defeat the Mamluk armies piecemeal. While the Ottoman offensive was co-ordinated, the Mamluk armies worked independently of one another and were smashed in the larger battles.

TTPlGHl.png


There were a few notable victories for the Mamluks and the casualties at the end of the war were fairly even, but the damage had already been done at the beginning.

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P-Nut surrendered. I think the terms were very generous on the Mamluks, all considered.

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However...



... Christendom has finally reacted. Led by the Emperor @Crackers, he has with @hobbers, @Organic Potatoes, @Dan, the Pope and several minor states formed a coalition vowing to bring altodevil to heel. But dare they strike?




In other news:

  1. The Cat annexed Tclemcen, Kabylia and Algiers. He now borders Salt Bailly.
  2. Kazan declared war on MadDogg, in revenge for MadDogg’s earlier aggression against them. MadDogg lost a further 50% of hist territory. altodevil didn’t look favourably upon Dr Dwayne or Kazan bullying MadDogg. The Ottomans have guaranteed The Great Horde’s independence, giving them a lifeline
  3. Dr. Dwayne continued following the sound Dr. Dwayne strategy of waiting until others fight, before declaring on them. He attacked and beat Kazan.
  4. Crackers annexed Baden and Bregenz
  5. RedSky allied Crackers to stave off the PSV threat.
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Glad to see RedSky has come around
 
This experiment encouraged me to fire up a game of EU4 and play with Naples. It's 1462 and I was somehow just elected Emperor of the HRE :lol: . Can you use my save file?
 
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