DWelbz19
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So beyond me that we didn’t accept the £30m for him
Maybe, and I do stress maybe, it's gotten even worse, but he's always been poor for it. He does the same thing that Pogba used to get absolutely shit on for - he's 'ok' when the opposition are ahead of him but as soon as they get in behind he's terrible for just jogging back without any effort.I think what we're seeing this season is a different level of laziness from him. He seems to be sulking on the pitch which I've never really seen from him before.
Pretty sure EtH was all right with McT leaving but the Glazers wanted their valuation and nothing less. Any decently-run club would have taken that reported 30m and ran for the hills. All these problems will continue as long as the Glazers are here.There was a tweet or two about his sale. It was how we will only accept big offer because Ten Hag likes him.
I do hope that it was a big BS.
We will never receive more than that, especially that he will play less and lessSo beyond me that we didn’t accept the £30m for him
Half of the caf would have an answer for you a few weeks ago. They've all gone into hiding now, though.Again why did we reject 30m for him. He is awful
Yeah he was poor even by his standards. Usually I just think he’s not very good but tries hard, yesterday I think he looked like a player trying to force a move.Who had all the time in the world to assist the 4th.
Nice lad. He's lazy with an over inflated ego.
Apparently he’s full Ronaldinho when he plays for Scotland against the mighty Cyprus according to some.No reason he should be getting game time over literally anyone involved with the club including the custodial staff, truly baffling how any fee wasn't grabbed with both hands last window.
Also any Scots men around? Does he play like this for you lot? Or is he saving his true magic for United?
Nah, he was like this even when Ole was the manager. People just didn’t notice it as much because they were giving stick to Pogba.
I don't get the whole pile on with him. I think he's being scapegoated to be honest. Folk have to have someone to vent their spleen over when United lose whether it's based on reason or not, but questioning his professionalism or character is a step too and reflect quite poorly on the fans who do it both in the sense of their character and their understanding of football.
I hate pile ons generally because they reduce complex issues to scapegoating individual moments for individual players.I don't get the whole pile on with him. I think he's being scapegoated to be honest. Folk have to have someone to vent their spleen over when United lose whether it's based on reason or not, but questioning his professionalism or character is a step too and reflect quite poorly on the fans who do it both in the sense of their character and their understanding of football.
He's checked out.
Shouldn't see another minute in a Utd shirt.
Play Hannibal or Gore, they honestly couldn't be any worse at this stage.
I don't get the whole pile on with him. I think he's being scapegoated to be honest. Folk have to have someone to vent their spleen over when United lose whether it's based on reason or not, but questioning his professionalism or character is a step too and reflect quite poorly on the fans who do it both in the sense of their character and their understanding of football.
I don't get the whole pile on with him. I think he's being scapegoated to be honest. Folk have to have someone to vent their spleen over when United lose whether it's based on reason or not, but questioning his professionalism or character is a step too and reflect quite poorly on the fans who do it both in the sense of their character and their understanding of football.
I'm surprised we've not seen more of Hannibal as he seems like such an ETH type player. If the boss wants to send a message about lack of effort then playing a player who gives his all always would be a good move.
Ten Hag just doesn't strike me as someone willing to gamble on youth, which is a shame because ultimately bedding in Mejbri or Gore would do more for him in the long term than giving minutes to jokers like McTominay.Such an obvious opportunity to show a message last night as well. After McT stunk the place out against Brighton and Hannibal had such a positive impact. Seemed like a no brainer to bump Hannibal ahead of McT in the substitute pecking order. That’s probably the one thing that pissed me off more than any other last night.
The thing is, with Pogba it "fits". The trope of "technically gifted but lazy creative midfielder" is probably as old as football itself and so Pogba made sense. He was infuriating, yes, but it was easy to understand what he was.Maybe, and I do stress maybe, it's gotten even worse, but he's always been poor for it. He does the same thing that Pogba used to get absolutely shit on for - he's 'ok' when the opposition are ahead of him but as soon as they get in behind he's terrible for just jogging back without any effort.
Do you have a list to hand? I genuinely think he would be up the top.The worst player to ever have more than 200 games for us?
I think serious questions should be asked of Hag if he continues to play over Hannibal following that performance. He's totally checked out.He's checked out.
Shouldn't see another minute in a Utd shirt.
Play Hannibal or Gore, they honestly couldn't be any worse at this stage.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Manchester_United_F.C._players#List_of_playersDo you have a list to hand? I genuinely think he would be up the top.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Manchester_United_F.C._players#List_of_players
Sort the table by total appearances. I think the only contender is Jesse Lingard (232 appearances - yikes!). Well, I only really looked at players who played in my lifetime. John Grimwood or George Vose might have been absolute shite for all I know.
McTominay will soon overtake Ruud van Nistelrooy in number of total appearances. Let that sink in. He has the same number of starts for us as Park Ji-sung.
Do you have a list to hand? I genuinely think he would be up the top.
I think serious questions should be asked of Hag if he continues to play over Hannibal following that performance. He's totally checked out.
Found Mctominay's account on the caf.Thought he was good last night when he came on. Made a number of box entries, excellent in his duels and off the ball work.
A lot of the discussion around his lack of touches against Brighton was a result of a team level strategy of overloading the left hand side. Scotland do that often in International games where they attack through Andy Robertson, Kieran Tierney and Callum McGregor down the left while McTominay provides a box threat with the timing of his runs into the box from the other side and his physical and aerial strengths.
Go read the fecking happiness in some posters posts when we rejected 30m and the extra happiness when he did not leave at the end of the window. I couldn't believe what I was reading, thought they were talking about Roy Keane.Again why did we reject 30m for him. He is awful
I am sick of the excuses, he is fecking 27 years old and never been good enough. He had the chance to go and play elsewhere, but no, he decided to sit here and sulk. Awful awful player that should never be near the training ground.I hate pile ons generally because they reduce complex issues to scapegoating individual moments for individual players.
We know McTominay isn't good enough. A central mid who is so uninvolved in every game is a luxury we can't afford. But the last 2 matches it's obvious he's not arsed anymore and is not even trying to appear so. Something is up with him.
Perhaps being told he's surplus to requirements and then having to stick around anyway is not the best for player morale, or dressing room vibes.