So beyond me that we didn’t accept the £30m for him
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran are here to talk about a frustrating 2 points dropped at Crystal Palace. They then discuss the regeneration of Old Trafford. Finally, Nik is joined by special guest Michael Statham from the Football Oranje podcast - who gives us a more in depth look at our EL opposition FC Twente, and then runs through the (many) Dutch connections currently at United.
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Maybe, and I do stress maybe, it's gotten even worse, but he's always been poor for it. He does the same thing that Pogba used to get absolutely shit on for - he's 'ok' when the opposition are ahead of him but as soon as they get in behind he's terrible for just jogging back without any effort.
Pretty sure EtH was all right with McT leaving but the Glazers wanted their valuation and nothing less. Any decently-run club would have taken that reported 30m and ran for the hills. All these problems will continue as long as the Glazers are here.
We will never receive more than that, especially that he will play less and less
Should have sold him
Half of the caf would have an answer for you a few weeks ago. They've all gone into hiding now, though.
Yeah he was poor even by his standards. Usually I just think he’s not very good but tries hard, yesterday I think he looked like a player trying to force a move.
Ricky on the United Stand will probably say he had a good game 
and will also say bring back Smalling and Lingard
and will also say bring back Smalling and LingardApparently he’s full Ronaldinho when he plays for Scotland against the mighty Cyprus according to some.
Yep, he has ALWAYS been a lazy/sluggish guy.
He's checked out.
Shouldn't see another minute in a Utd shirt.
Play Hannibal or Gore, they honestly couldn't be any worse at this stage.
Shouldn't see another minute in a Utd shirt.
Play Hannibal or Gore, they honestly couldn't be any worse at this stage.
Yet he still keeps getting minutes?
Every season I get told not to worry because he’s 4th / 5th choice yet every season he seems to feature in every game, awful player and I’m sick of the sight of him.
I thought he was a hard worker according to his supporters? Laughable. I saw an analysis on Brighton's 2nd/3rd goal on Saturday and the entire genesis of the goal was Mctominay not pressing Lamptey enough to force him back towards the goalkeeper. When you are entirely talentless and show little to no effort on top of that, what is your point again as a footballer?
The worst player to ever have more than 200 games for us?
The worst thing is that people think he's good defensively but for years he's just been leaving massive gaps exposing the defence. It's why Casemiro transformed the team last season at first because all of a sudden those gaps were no longer showing.
The worst thing is that people think he's good defensively but for years he's just been leaving massive gaps exposing the defence. It's why Casemiro transformed the team last season at first because all of a sudden those gaps were no longer showing.
Like I and many others said in the summer, rejecting a 30M bid for him in the summer, was a sackable offense.
I don't get the whole pile on with him. I think he's being scapegoated to be honest. Folk have to have someone to vent their spleen over when United lose whether it's based on reason or not, but questioning his professionalism or character is a step too and reflect quite poorly on the fans who do it both in the sense of their character and their understanding of football.
I've never questioned his professionalism before but what we're seeing this season is really not good.
I hate pile ons generally because they reduce complex issues to scapegoating individual moments for individual players.
We know McTominay isn't good enough. A central mid who is so uninvolved in every game is a luxury we can't afford. But the last 2 matches it's obvious he's not arsed anymore and is not even trying to appear so. Something is up with him.
Perhaps being told he's surplus to requirements and then having to stick around anyway is not the best for player morale, or dressing room vibes.
I'm surprised we've not seen more of Hannibal as he seems like such an ETH type player. If the boss wants to send a message about lack of effort then playing a player who gives his all always would be a good move.
That's because of efforts like the one that tweet shows. He loses the ball due to his lack of quality on it. The least you can do as limited player is to bust a guy. It's made even worse by the fact that he'd just came on.
What do you think of him jogging back after losing the ball on the edge of their box? If a teammate does that in my five-a-side they’re getting called out for it.
Such an obvious opportunity to show a message last night as well. After McT stunk the place out against Brighton and Hannibal had such a positive impact. Seemed like a no brainer to bump Hannibal ahead of McT in the substitute pecking order. That’s probably the one thing that pissed me off more than any other last night.
Should not play for us and should have been sold in the summer. Atleast Hannibal and Gore would have worked hard than this waste of space
This bloke is bloody useless. If the only thing he's bringing to the table is "height and physicality" we don't need him.
Ten Hag just doesn't strike me as someone willing to gamble on youth, which is a shame because ultimately bedding in Mejbri or Gore would do more for him in the long term than giving minutes to jokers like McTominay.
I fecking hate it even more when the water carriers in the squad start getting lazy. He was subbed on for Eriksen, who was clearly fatigued from the weekend and he gives feck all in terms of effort. That's inexcusable.
The thing is, with Pogba it "fits". The trope of "technically gifted but lazy creative midfielder" is probably as old as football itself and so Pogba made sense. He was infuriating, yes, but it was easy to understand what he was.
McTominay, however, defies footballing conventions and tropes. His technique is atrocious, he has almost no footballing intelligence - AND he's lazy. How does that work? It's hard to wrap your head around it.
Do you have a list to hand? I genuinely think he would be up the top.
I think serious questions should be asked of Hag if he continues to play over Hannibal following that performance. He's totally checked out.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Manchester_United_F.C._players#List_of_players
Sort the table by total appearances. I think the only contender is Jesse Lingard (232 appearances - yikes!). Well, I only really looked at players who played in my lifetime. John Grimwood or George Vose might have been absolute shite for all I know.
McTominay will soon overtake Ruud van Nistelrooy in number of total appearances. Let that sink in. He has the same number of starts for us as Park Ji-sung.
Lingard was very average but easily better, won our last FA Cup with a fantastic goal and scored in another final. McTominay is easily the worst from at least the last 60 years. He should've never been allowed to play that much for the club.
Ryan Giggs Wales MF 1991–2014 802 161 963 168 [1][191]
Bobby Charlton England FW 1956–1973 756 2 758 249 [100]
Paul Scholes England MF 1994–2011
2012–2013 577 141 718 155 [210][211]
Bill Foulkes England DF 1952–1970 685 3 688 9 [91]
Gary Neville England DF 1992–2011 566 36 602 7 [198][199]
Wayne Rooney England FW 2004–2017 497 62 559 253 [247][248]
David de Gea Spain GK 2011–2023 545 0 545 0 [277]
Alex Stepney England GK 1966–1979 539 0 539 2 [118]
Tony Dunne Republic of Ireland DF 1960–1973 534 1 535 2 [108]
Denis Irwin Republic of Ireland DF 1990–2002 511 18 529 33 [189][190]
Joe Spence England FW 1919–1933 510 0 510 168 [44]
Arthur Albiston Scotland FB 1974–1988 467 18 485 7 [132]
Roy Keane Republic of Ireland MF 1993–2005 458 22 480 51 [206][207]
Brian McClair Scotland U 1987–1998 398 73 471 127 [171][172]
George Best Northern Ireland FW 1963–1974 470 0 470 179 [114]
Mark Hughes Wales FW 1983–1986
1988–1995 453 14 467 163 [159][160]
Michael Carrick England MF 2006–2018 395 69 464 24 [257][258]
Bryan Robson England MF 1981–1994 437 24 461 99 [153][154]
Martin Buchan Scotland DF 1972–1983 456 0 456 4 [124]
Rio Ferdinand England DF 2002–2014 444 11 455 8 [9][240]
Jack Silcock England FB 1919–1934 449 0 449 2 [43]
Gary Pallister England DF 1989–1998 433 4 437 15 [185][186]
Jack Rowley England FW 1937–1955 424 0 424 211 [73]
Sammy McIlroy Northern Ireland MF 1971–1982 391 28 419 71 [123]
Steve Bruce England DF 1987–1996 411 3 414 51 [173][174]
Denis Law Scotland FW 1962–1973 398 6 404 237 [111]
Lou Macari Scotland FW 1973–1984 374 27 401 97 [127]
Peter Schmeichel Denmark GK 1991–1999 398 0 398 1 [196][197]
Pat Crerand Scotland HB 1963–1971 397 0 397 15 [113]
Steve Coppell England MF 1975–1983 393 3 396 70 [133]
Nobby Stiles England HB 1959–1971 395 0 395 19 [106]
David Beckham England MF 1992–2003 356 38 394 85 [200][201]
John O'Shea Republic of Ireland U 1999–2011 301 92 393 15 [234][235]
Allenby Chilton England HB 1946–1955 391 0 391 3 [77]
Nicky Butt England MF 1992–2004 307 80 387 26 [202][203]
Phil Neville England U 1995–2005 301 85 386 8 [214][215]
Patrice Evra France DF 2006–2014 357 22 379 10 [253][254]
Mike Duxbury England DF 1980–1990 345 33 378 7 [145][146]
Gary Bailey England GK 1978–1987 375 0 375 0 [140]
Ole Gunnar Solskjær Norway FW 1996–2007 216 150 366 126 [218][219]
Marcus Rashford England FW 2016– 265 100 365 124 [300]
Wes Brown England DF 1998–2011 313 49 362 5 [224][225]
Mikaël Silvestre France DF 1999–2008 326 35 361 10 [232][233]
Shay Brennan Republic of Ireland FB 1958–1970 358 1 359 6 [103]
Cristiano Ronaldo Portugal MF 2003–2009
2021–2022 289 57 346 145 [243][244]
Johnny Carey Ireland
Republic of Ireland FB 1937–1953 344 0 344 17 [72]
Stan Pearson England FW 1937–1954 343 0 343 148 [74]
Darren Fletcher Scotland MF 2003–2015 266 76 342 24 [241][242]
Antonio Valencia Ecuador U 2009–2019 277 62 339 25 [271][272]
Billy Meredith Wales FW 1907–1921 335 0 335 36 [34]
David Sadler England U 1962–1973 328 7 335 27 [112]
Charlie Moore England FB 1919–1921
1922–1931 328 0 328 0 [45]
Alf Steward England GK 1920–1932 326 0 326 0 [48]
Chris Smalling England DF 2010–2019 281 42 323 18 [275][276]
Lal Hilditch England HB 1919–1932 322 0 322 7 [42]
George Wall England FW 1906–1915 319 0 319 100 [32][33]
Fred Erentz Scotland FB 1892–1902 310 0 310 9 [11]
Alex Bell Scotland HB 1903–1913 309 0 309 10 [25]
Anthony Martial France FW 2015– 216 87 303 88 [299]
Charlie Roberts England HB 1904–1913 302 0 302 23 [29]
Ray Bennion Wales HB 1921–1932 301 0 301 3 [49]
Nemanja Vidić Serbia and Montenegro
Serbia DF 2006–2014 290 10 300 21 [255][256]
Willie Morgan Scotland MF 1968–1975 293 3 296 34 [121]
Dennis Viollet England FW 1953–1962 293 0 293 179 [94][95]
Kevin Moran Republic of Ireland DF 1979–1988 284 5 289 24 [142]
Frank Stapleton Republic of Ireland FW 1981–1987 267 21 288 78 [149][150]
Juan Mata Spain MF 2014–2022 213 72 285 51 [288][289]
John Aston Sr. England FB 1946–1954 284 0 284 30 [76]
Paul Ince England MF 1989–1995 276 5 281 29 [187][188]
Roger Byrne England FB 1951–1958 280 0 280 20 [89]
Johnny Berry England FW 1951–1958 276 0 276 45 [87]
Henry Cockburn England HB 1946–1954 275 0 275 4 [78]
Andy Cole England FW 1995–2001 231 44 275 121 [212][213]
Norman Whiteside Northern Ireland FW 1982–1989 256 18 274 67 [155][156]
Brian Greenhoff England DF 1973–1979 268 3 271 17 [129]
George Stacey England FB 1907–1915 270 0 270 9 [36]
Harry Moger England GK 1903–1912 266 0 266 0 [27]
Brian Kidd England FW 1967–1974 257 9 266 70 [119]
Edwin van der Sar Netherlands GK 2005–2011 266 0 266 0 [249][250]
David Herd Scotland FW 1961–1968 264 1 265 145 [110]
Lee Sharpe England MF 1988–1996 213 50 263 36 [177][178]
Luke Shaw England DF 2014– 236 26 262 4 [298]
Ashley Young England U 2011–2020 202 59 261 19 [280][281]
Walter Cartwright England HB 1895–1905 257 0 257 8 [15]
Dick Duckworth England HB 1903–1915 254 0 254 11 [28]
Stewart Houston Scotland DF 1974–1980 248 2 250 16 [130]
Jimmy Nicholl Northern Ireland DF 1975–1982 235 13 248 6 [134]
Sandy Turnbull Scotland FW 1907–1915 247 0 247 101 [35]
Harry Gregg Northern Ireland GK 1957–1966 247 0 247 0 [102]
Clayton Blackmore Wales U 1984–1994 201 44 245 26 [163][164]
Victor Lindelöf Sweden DF 2017– 218 18 236 3 [303]
Paul Pogba France MF 2011–2012
2016–2022 195 38 233 39 [282][283]
Jesse Lingard England FW 2014–2022 143 89 232 35 [292][293]
Nani Portugal MF 2007–2015 178 52 230 40 [259][260]
Gordon McQueen Scotland DF 1978–1985 229 0 229 26 [139]
Phil Jones England U 2011–2022 198 31 229 6 [278][279]
Ruud van Nistelrooy
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Players ahead of him - obviously don't know them all and some historians or old fans might be able to pick out a few. Lingard and Jones would get a lot of flak although I thought when he was young and fit that Jones looked more the part than McTominay was. But he'd be up there.
I'd rather lose with Hannibal running around kicking someone than watching Scottie at the moment. Beyond bad the last 2 appearances.
Found Mctominay's account on the caf.
Go read the fecking happiness in some posters posts when we rejected 30m and the extra happiness when he did not leave at the end of the window. I couldn't believe what I was reading, thought they were talking about Roy Keane.
Is he there to keep the academy player record going, in case Garnacho and Rashford don't play one day?
Other than that, why did sell Fred for a 3rd the fee asked of him??
Other than that, why did sell Fred for a 3rd the fee asked of him??
I am sick of the excuses, he is fecking 27 years old and never been good enough. He had the chance to go and play elsewhere, but no, he decided to sit here and sulk. Awful awful player that should never be near the training ground.
A fecking disgrace. Wasn’t a fan of Fred but you would never fault him for effort.
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