klayton88
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The epitome of mediocrity. If one player sums up the way the club has been ran for the last 10 years it's this guy.
One scene in the, what 15th minute? After that scene he was borderline invisible.Yeah same, that tackle for the Hojlund chance was exceptional he was really good at driving at their defence.
Well, depends on what kind of squad were building. Good squad option if we want to be challenging for 8-10th spots in the league.Some idiots on here think we should keep him on for a squad option
Some idiots on here think we should keep him on for a squad option
The epitome of mediocrity. If one player sums up the way the club has been ran for the last 10 years it's this guy.
We deserve where we are250 appearances for us.
Was he even playing? With a first choice/go to midfielder like this guy it’s no wonder we have struggled all season.Totally invisible today. Once again…
These stats would be decent…if he wasn’t playing as our furthest fwd playerWhoscored shows him as having 46 touches, compared to Garnacho at 25, Diallo at 43, Mainoo at 39.
6 aerials won, more than anyone on the pitch and probably more than Hojlund has won in a game all season
3 Tackles won, joint with Cas and Burn for the most on the pitch.
3 clearances.
2 shots.
Pinged a great ball to Garnacho who messed up his first touch
He was alright, especially first half.
Whoscored shows him as having 46 touches, compared to Garnacho at 25, Diallo at 43, Mainoo at 39.
6 aerials won, more than anyone on the pitch and probably more than Hojlund has won in a game all season
3 Tackles won, joint with Cas and Burn for the most on the pitch.
3 clearances.
2 shots.
Pinged a great ball to Garnacho who messed up his first touch
He was alright, especially first half.
I'd definitely be looking to sell him. People don't like to hear that though.He should be one of the first out the door this summer. From a technical point of view he's just nowhere near good enough.
Yes but he’s not a squad player. He’s a regular starting midfielder. Even when he’s on the bench for the odd game he’s the first sub used. He was even Captain in the last game. People keep using this ‘useful squad player’ label for him as it’s an excuse for his glaring deficiencies. He’s nowhere near good enough for a club with top tier aspirations like we are supposed to have. Then again if we’ve turned into Bournemouth he’s perfect for life as a mid table, mediocre club. There seem to be quite a few who are content with this. Was exactly the same when we had Fellani stinking up the place.I really don't agree. He seems like the archetypal useful squad player. He shouldn't be first pick, but he always shows up and he can be very handy coming on as sub to shake things up in attack. Should not be used as a defensive player.
That’s a matter of opinion. No one would offer more than £30m for him last season and that was just a half hearted bid. He’s another year older now. He’s at his peak of mediocrity now, only going to get worse from here. There’s nothing in his background to suggest he will get the same number of goals again as this season, and even that wasn’t anything special for a player for whom this is his supposed strength.Maybe I would accept your point if we were close to having a City-like squad with over 20 really good footballers in it, but we are way off that and won't get there in the near future. I don't see any point in selling McTominay unless someone wants to pay really silly money. He will remain useful. There are so many other players to get shot of first.
Does that count the one that setup Newcastle's first goal?
He should be one of the first out the door this summer. From a technical point of view he's just nowhere near good enough.
Did the CB not win that?
I guess Amrabat swinging at air had nothing to with that goal? Or Cas and AWB not being aware of the runner?
He won it from what I could see. On whoscored he won 2 out 2 aerials from 45 to 50th minute.
If he didn't win it then that is wrong. But yeah, look at everyone else's mistakes after and not look at the action that led to Amrabat having to turn back and swing his leg up at the ball or why Cas and AWB had to chase back into the box.
7 years and he's still turning in the same invisible displays. Should be gone long ago.
55 secs, McT setting up the Newcastle goal, rational take.
Did he head the ball 30 yards back into his own half and set up the Newcastle attack?
I can't tell if he or the defender heads it. Given the angle of the heads and where the ball goes it might be the CB.
Either way to call that setting up the Newcastle goal is ridiculous.
Whoscored says he won that header. He could have directed it left or right or glanced it on or headed it in the direction of one of his team mates. The one place you don't want that going is where it went.
He heads it 30 yards backwards over his own midfield and 2 passes later Newcastle have a goal. But he shouldn't be blamed for it.
So, no matter if he won it or not he is still to blame for the goal.
Ok.
No he is the absolute opposite of it. Squad players should enable you to a) don't change too much of the overall game style because of missing players and b) to add an option to either bolster defense or bolster attack. McTominay isn't good at anything, he can't replace Bruno. He can't replace Casemiro. He can't replace Mount or Eriksen. There is no point having him on the bench because as soon as one of those three would be gone McTominay couldn't take over the role. So does he provide an option...? To bolster defense? Barely. He is tall. Thats about it. Bolster attack? Well a little bit I guess. But at the price of playing with a man down from then on.I really don't agree. He seems like the archetypal useful squad player. He shouldn't be first pick, but he always shows up and he can be very handy coming on as sub to shake things up in attack. Should not be used as a defensive player.
Yup. All of this.As long as McTominay remains a United player it will be the easiest way to determine that the team is going nowhere. A top team with a proper plan does not keep Scott because he ‘can do a job’ or whatever. Whatever job he is doing will never be compatible with a trophy winning side, he’s a total paradox to top level midfield play.
I’ve said many times, my immediate test when ETH joined was whether he would immediately render McTominay unusable. If you think ‘I can use this guy’, then you don’t have a footballing vision that will go anywhere. If we adopt that same mentality this summer, it will tell me the same. The long road to where we want to be would not have started yet.
As long as McTominay remains a United player it will be the easiest way to determine that the team is going nowhere. A top team with a proper plan does not keep Scott because he ‘can do a job’ or whatever. Whatever job he is doing will never be compatible with a trophy winning side, he’s a total paradox to top level midfield play.
I’ve said many times, my immediate test when ETH joined was whether he would immediately render McTominay unusable. If you think ‘I can use this guy’, then you don’t have a footballing vision that will go anywhere. If we adopt that same mentality this summer, it will tell me the same. The long road to where we want to be would not have started yet.
Yes exactly this. Astonishing how so many are subscribe to this, ‘does a job’, ‘good squad player’ etc. the guy is a regular starting midfielder for us sadly not a squad player. Frankly it’s no wonder we are a floundering, mediocre, mid table side with a negative goal difference if this is the sort of ‘quality’ we have in midfield.As long as McTominay remains a United player it will be the easiest way to determine that the team is going nowhere. A top team with a proper plan does not keep Scott because he ‘can do a job’ or whatever. Whatever job he is doing will never be compatible with a trophy winning side, he’s a total paradox to top level midfield play.
I’ve said many times, my immediate test when ETH joined was whether he would immediately render McTominay unusable. If you think ‘I can use this guy’, then you don’t have a footballing vision that will go anywhere. If we adopt that same mentality this summer, it will tell me the same. The long road to where we want to be would not have started yet.