SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

Thinking about a boxers fighting weight is a pretty terrible way of working out ‘normal’ height to weight ratios. You can add on several kg just by replacing the fluid they lost before the weigh-in.

True, but it’s an easy reference point that most can google. It’s also anchored to a very muscular image. Better to pick Boxers than runners for example.
 
Heavyweights are never as lean as controlled weights. They just find their sweet spot, weight wise, and roll with it.

Certainly not going to be the dick on the internet that tells you that you don’t know how you feel. I know naff all about you.

But the huge majority of people have no concept of what weight sees them at their peak output, sport by sport though. Again, 100% not suggesting it’s you, but most of that majority is trapped by dogma, not science, when it comes to what their ‘Healthy weight’ is.

Could i have reduced weight? Yes. But 75kg would have been counter productive and 64kg would be out of the question.

You can look at footballers if you want to see a good idea of a peak weight for a given height. Our senior 6 footers range between 72kg and 88kg (excluding Maguire, who cannot really be 98kg as per his FIFA stats).
 
Could i have reduced weight? Yes. But 75kg would have been counter productive and 64kg would be out of the question.

You can look at footballers if you want to see a good idea of a peak weight for a given height. Our senior 6 footers range between 72kg and 88kg (excluding Maguire, who cannot really be 98kg as per his FIFA stats).

His massive head probably counts for about 20kg of that 98kg.
 
When he was asked to comment on his party's treatment of the NHS every question time he wouldn't give an answer and would instead just say he was grateful because of such and such. It was his go-to response which, yes, is bullshit and, yes, does show that he really didn't give much of a shit about the NHS.

It's politics, it's just the way politicians behave. The idea Cameron isn't grateful is absurd.
 
Not much discussion here about the current briefing (I understand people are bored of them now)

The government announced this morning that one question a day would come from a member of the public, 1500 questions have been put forward and the one that got through the "independent poll" was 'can we hug our grandchildren' ? :rolleyes:

Seriously that was the best question ?
 
The government announced this morning that one question a day would come from a member of the public, 1500 questions have been put forward and the one that got through the "independent poll" was 'can we hug our grandchildren' ? :rolleyes:

Seriously that was the best question ?

This is the great british public, it's a very low bar.
 
Was it heart related? Seeing a lot of that with people on the mend, still some uncertainty if it attacks the heart or most likely through cytokine storm and organ damage.

Really sad news. Gone well before his time with a baby and girlfriend left behind.

IIRC, here in Indonesia there've been at least two instances where discharged, given-the-all-clear corona patients went on to die from heart failure/attack a few days after as they were recuperating from home. I'd say it's too much of a coincidence for it not to be related from the initial infection.
 
Is this for real?

also on a different note has anyone verified the tweet about the alerts relating to kids?
Didn't seem to be one question about it at the press briefing, I requested a question on this subject today and as I posted above 'can I hug my grandchildren?' got picked instead.
 
Speaking of which, is there any way to effectively weigh one's head or does it have to be removed from the body?
Perhaps if you stick your head in a bucket full to the brim with water, and then do something (weight I I guess?) with the water that flows over the edge of the bucket?

Edit: Although that won't work as water doesn't weight as much as your head I reckon. It's a start though
 
Perhaps if you stick your head in a bucket full to the brim with water, and then do something (weight I I guess?) with the water that flows over the edge of the bucket?

Edit: Although that won't work as water doesn't weight as much as your head I reckon. It's a start though
:lol: No, it won't work. A bucket of feathers isn't equal to a bucket of earth. Equal volume does not mean equal weight.
 
Something that really took me aback this morning was on BBC news at 9, Victoria Derbyshire and Norman Smith casually musing over Boris Johnson’s “near death experience“ and whether it would result in a “change in him” and ”softening of his views“ and “his designs for the NHS”.

It was a pretty innocuous discussion on the surface but what really struck me after I’d digested it was the fact that two seasoned journalists were basically saying the quiet bit out loud and rather than talking about Johnson in the way he likes to project himself, they were talking about Johnson in the terms that most people know deep down that he is but is rarely discussed on TV, least of all by impartial journalists.

I think the reason it resonated so much is because you know that Derbyshire and Smith will have a good insight into the real Johnson so to hear them talk about him like that carried a bit of weight. They could just as easily have been musing over Trump, Kim Jong Un or Putin.
 
Speaking of which, is there any way to effectively weigh one's head or does it have to be removed from the body?
Perhaps if you stick your head in a bucket full to the brim with water, and then do something (weight I I guess?) with the water that flows over the edge of the bucket?

Edit: Although that won't work as water doesn't weight as much as your head I reckon. It's a start though

DEXA scan will tell you how much your head weighs (well how much mass you have above your chin)
 
:lol: No, it won't work. A bucket of feathers isn't equal to a bucket of earth. Equal volume does not mean equal weight.
Hmm.

What if you checked how much water your whole body (including head) displaces, and then how much your head displaces. Then if say your head displaced 1/5 of the volume of water that your whole body displaced, then you can say that your head weights 1/5 of your body? If we assume that your head is similar in density to the rest of your body, which probably isn't true either.
 
Hmm.

What if you checked how much water your whole body (including head) displaces, and then how much your head displaces. Then if say your head displaced 1/5 of the volume of water that your whole body displaced, then you can say that your head weights 1/5 of your body? If we assume that your head is similar in density to the rest of your body, which probably isn't true either.
What the feck are you smoking ?!
 
Speaking of which, is there any way to effectively weigh one's head or does it have to be removed from the body?

You could work out the volume of your head by immersing yourself in water, first to your chin, then completely. Then you could have a guess at the density of your head based on data from corpses. Tricky one though. Why do you ask? Worried your head has put on a few pounds?
 
You could work out the volume of your head by immersing yourself in water, first to your chin, then completely. Then you could have a guess at the density of your head based on data from corpses. Tricky one though. Why do you ask? Worried your head has put on a few pounds?

Oh, no. I know my head is massive, it seems to have its own gravitational pull seeing as birds have flown into it on two separate occasions. Just something I've been curious about for years.
 
Oh, no. I know my head is massive, it seems to have its own gravitational pull seeing as birds have flown into it on two separate occasions. Just something I've been curious about for years.

I reckon you could also work it out by lying on a see-saw, straddling the mid-point, trying to reach an equilibrium. Work out the point at which your body has an equal weight either side of the fulcrum then... do a load of maths...
 
I don't understand any of that stuff about this kid's disease but it sounds very scary. Perhaps one of our resident medical professionals can explain it for us @Pogue Mahone @Arruda @Anustart89

Paeds ITU is very specialised and miles over my head. So take this with a pinch of salt.

It looks as though they’ve see some cases of very sick kids admitted to ITU with vasculitic (inflamed blood vessels) disease. Some (but not all) test covid positive for current disease. Some (but not all) have antibody levels which imply past exposure. So they’re worried this might be covid related.

There’s examples of people getting vasculitic rashes (a bit like chilblains) after recovering from covid in other countries. If it can cause a vasculitic rash, then it might cause damage to other organs in the same way.

https://www.ejpd.com/images/nuova-vasculite-covid-ENG.pdf

Some big caveats here:

-Numbers seem to be small.
-We don’t know if they have pre-existing illnesses
-The fact that some kids get very sick from covid is not news.
-There are vasculitic auto-immune diseases that make small numbers of kids very sick every year.
 
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I reckon you could also work it out by lying on a see-saw, straddling the mid-point, trying to reach an equilibrium. Work out the point at which your body has an equal weight either side of the fulcrum then... do a load of maths...

Ooh that's clever.
 
Paeds ITU is very specialised and miles over my head. So take this with a pinch of salt.

It looks as though they’ve see some cases of very sick kids admitted to ITU with vasculitic (inflamed blood vessels) disease. Some (but not all) test covid positive for current disease. Some (but not all) have antibody levels which imply past exposure. So they’re worried this might be covid related.

There’s examples of people getting vasculitic rashes (a bit like chilblains) after recovering from covid in other countries. If it can cause a vasculitic rash, then it might cause damage to other organs in the same way.

https://www.ejpd.com/images/nuova-vasculite-covid-ENG.pdf

Some big caveats here:

-Numbers seem to be small.
-We don’t know if they have pre-existing illnesses
-The fact that some kids get very sick from covid is not news.
-There are vasculitic auto-immune diseases that make small numbers of kids very sick every year.

Any distance in a suggestion that because all Hospitals have clear lines of sight nationally, and a narrow focus; that that which would ordinarily pass by, is now being looked at through a different lens?

EDIT : I know NOTHING. Assume the numbers are above National averages. But asking a silly question regardless.
 
Any distance in a suggestion that because all Hospitals have clear lines of sight nationally, and a narrow focus; that that which would ordinarily pass by, is now being looked at through a different lens?

EDIT : I know NOTHING. Assume the numbers are above National averages. But asking a silly question regardless.

I have no idea if the numbers are above national averages for conditions that cause similar illnesses. It’s also possible that these are a unique clinical picture, unlike anything seen before. In that scenario, you’d take a cluster as small as half a dozen cases extremely seriously. I’m sure people way smarter than me are keeping an eye on things and we’ll find out soon if we’ve anything to worry about.

Plus, your general point is correct. Everything out of the ordinary is being looked at with a different lens right now. There’s so much unknown about this virus that any even slightly strange or unusual ITU admissions would more concern than it might usually do.
 
I think it's a load of bollocks they don't get life assurance as it is, I work for a manufacturing firm and if I die in service my family would get double that.

Thats an optional benefit on most cases though. Anyone can pay for life assurance whether privately or through salary sacrifice if offered through work.

Frankly anyone that works and has a family and doesn’t have a life assurance policy is a fecking dumbass.