SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

I remember you telling us about it way back. I'm really sorry to hear that you're still suffering. It's good that you had a haematoligist who could help you through it. It was a horrible time and it's worth remembering that it's not over for everyone.

I hope you're still getting the help you need.
Thanks jojojo, thats kind of you. I'm really impressed you remember my previous post. I wish I wasn't crazy and that I didn't have the chronic VIITP...but I'm not and I do

I found this youtube video fascinating, not least about the vaccines efficacy but also about the excess deaths issue. It was all news to me and has left quite an impact.

 
That’s what the crazies say. But no. A tiny number vs lives saved, far better than most vaccines harm rate.
Right but the issue is more to do with them now admitting whereas previously they denied it.

It's one of those things where you want other people to know if you know rather than denying it and then admitting it later in a court doc
 
Right but the issue is more to do with them now admitting whereas previously they denied it.

It's one of those things where you want other people to know if you know rather than denying it and then admitting it later in a court doc

I don’t think so. I think it’s data that is aligned with the existing data. Not seen anything to suggest otherwise.
 
I'm one of the unfortunate people whose immune system reacted badly to the first AstraZeneca covid vaccine. My red blood cell count went super low and for a period of time I was at high risk of stroke. My body was covered in really big bruises. If it wasn't for my Haematologist's help, I feel my body would have shut down through my blood going wonky. With all the bruises I looked like I'd been run over by a truck. Anyhow, I now suffer with chronic vaccine induced thrombocytopenia purpora (VIITP). There's a lot worse off than me that's for sure so I'm not moaning or anything.

Sorry to hear that and thanks for taking one for the team. No help to you of course but I believe the risk of thrombosis from COVID infection is far higher (not to mention the other health outcomes). And is it getting better? I guess a complication is that this is so rare because it took such an unprecedented vaccination program to be able to identify and study it, so there is only "normal" thrombosis to rely on for history/treatment, and I don't think they know why it is even rarer with the mRNA vaccines.
 
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Sorry to hear that and thanks for taking one for the team. No help to you of course but I believe the risk of thrombosis from COVID infection is far higher (not to mention the other health outcomes). And is it getting better? I guess a complication is that this is so rare because it took such an unprecedented vaccination program to be able to identify and study it, so there is only "normal" thrombosis to rely on for history/treatment, and I don't think they know why it is even rarer with the mRNA vaccines.
Hi Wibble. Thanks for your kind words. It is a lot better and I'm very thankful for that. I was put on some strong drugs. One was called Eltrombopag and although the side effects were a bit iffy, it worked and brought my red blood cell count up to just under normal levels. I haven't developed any plaque though, which good.

As I say, there's a lot worse off than me not least the poor folks whose loved ones died from covid or the vaccine complications.

In that YouTube video above the GP and the MP seem to suggest the AstraZeneca vaccines efficacy was over stated and there's a possible link to the excess death issue. I have an idea this story will go on for quite some time.
 
Just wondering whether there was any known issue with low platelet counts as a side effect of AZ?
That's what happened to me, its called Thrombocytopenia, specificallyfor me Vaccine Induced Immuno Thrombocytopenia Purpora. My immune system didn't like the first AstraZeneca vaccine and my body went on a path of not producing anywhere near enough blood platelets. It showed itself by giving me huge multi coloured bruises. I'm very fortunate that the situation was caught in time and that my really low platelet count started to go back up. I was having three blood tests a week for around two months. The problem means that for some poor folk they suffered bleeding in the brain and then died. I think there was also some kind of clotting issue in the brain as well but can't remember what it is.The risk of stroke is heightened for people such as me and I'm told the Thrombocytopenia is chronic.
 
That's what happened to me, its called Thrombocytopenia, specificallyfor me Vaccine Induced Immuno Thrombocytopenia Purpora. My immune system didn't like the first AstraZeneca vaccine and my body went on a path of not producing anywhere near enough blood platelets. It showed itself by giving me huge multi coloured bruises. I'm very fortunate that the situation was caught in time and that my really low platelet count started to go back up. I was having three blood tests a week for around two months. The problem means that for some poor folk they suffered bleeding in the brain and then died. I think there was also some kind of clotting issue in the brain as well but can't remember what it is.The risk of stroke is heightened for people such as me and I'm told the Thrombocytopenia is chronic.

Thanks for the reply, My sister in law appears to have this also.
 
Hmpv then. Should we be worried? Seems to be an outbreak in china.
 
In a documentary from a couple of years ago Sir David Attenborough spoke of the impact of shrinking wilderness areas around the world. I think from memory he said that since he started as a broadcaster in 1955 to about 2020 the world had gone from about 80% of the worlds wilderness areas still intact to about 20% today and that most of the loss had come in the last 25 years. One problem he mentioned was that as humans and wild animals came into more and more contact because of shrinking habitats the frequency of diseases jumping species was expected to increase.
 
In a documentary from a couple of years ago Sir David Attenborough spoke of the impact of shrinking wilderness areas around the world. I think from memory he said that since he started as a broadcaster in 1955 to about 2020 the world had gone from about 80% of the worlds wilderness areas still intact to about 20% today and that most of the loss had come in the last 25 years. One problem he mentioned was that as humans and wild animals came into more and more contact because of shrinking habitats the frequency of diseases jumping species was expected to increase.
That reminds me of the theory that when the permafrost melts at the poles it’ll release ancient diseases too.
 
That's what happened to me, its called Thrombocytopenia, specificallyfor me Vaccine Induced Immuno Thrombocytopenia Purpora. My immune system didn't like the first AstraZeneca vaccine and my body went on a path of not producing anywhere near enough blood platelets. It showed itself by giving me huge multi coloured bruises. I'm very fortunate that the situation was caught in time and that my really low platelet count started to go back up. I was having three blood tests a week for around two months. The problem means that for some poor folk they suffered bleeding in the brain and then died. I think there was also some kind of clotting issue in the brain as well but can't remember what it is.The risk of stroke is heightened for people such as me and I'm told the Thrombocytopenia is chronic.
How are you travelling now?
 
That reminds me of the theory that when the permafrost melts at the poles it’ll release ancient diseases too.
Poles .... it's far wider than that and it's already happening, Siberia, Canada, Greenland, Alaska, Russia and Scandinavia
 
If the covid pandemic taught is one thing, it's that if a pandemic with a high fatality rate ever breaks out we're completely fecked.
 
If the covid pandemic taught is one thing, it's that if a pandemic with a high fatality rate ever breaks out we're completely fecked.
Oh yeah! We’re done, we’re too selfish as a species to deal with something like that.
 
Half the world will die to own the libs.
However I do wonder sometimes how Covid would have went if instead of killing you, Covid made men impotent…? I bet it would have been taken way more seriously.
 
If the covid pandemic taught is one thing, it's that if a pandemic with a high fatality rate ever breaks out we're completely fecked.
Isn't that basically Ebola? But because its fatality rate is so high, it doesn't get the chance to spread.
 
If the covid pandemic taught is one thing, it's that if a pandemic with a high fatality rate ever breaks out we're completely fecked.

Definitely. Even post-covid, the amount of people I see out and about spreading their flu etc is through the roof these days. Like you say, something more serious and we're screwed. I was hoping that after covid it would catch on to use a mask if you're sick and absolutely must be out in the public - but no, people don't give a shit.
 
That reminds me of the theory that when the permafrost melts at the poles it’ll release ancient diseases too.
That sounds like sarcasm. The difference here is that we are already seeing humans and wild animals coming into close proximity with each other more frequently in areas where we havent seen it before. The most damning part of what Attenborough was speaking about is the amount of wilderness area we have lost. Bio diversity matters and we are killing it off and also creating conditions where diseases can jump species far more frequently. The huge scale of deaths of seal pups in Patagonia from bird flu a great example of this.
 
That sounds like sarcasm. The difference here is that we are already seeing humans and wild animals coming into close proximity with each other more frequently in areas where we havent seen it before. The most damning part of what Attenborough was speaking about is the amount of wilderness area we have lost. Bio diversity matters and we are killing it off and also creating conditions where diseases can jump species far more frequently. The huge scale of deaths of seal pups in Patagonia from bird flu a great example of this.
No sarcasm there to read into.
 
That sounds like sarcasm. The difference here is that we are already seeing humans and wild animals coming into close proximity with each other more frequently in areas where we havent seen it before. The most damning part of what Attenborough was speaking about is the amount of wilderness area we have lost. Bio diversity matters and we are killing it off and also creating conditions where diseases can jump species far more frequently. The huge scale of deaths of seal pups in Patagonia from bird flu a great example of this.
No idea if it's meant to be sarcasm or not but the reality is that it is very likely that there are pathogens that have been frozen for millenia that humans have no defense or treatment against
 
If the covid pandemic taught is one thing, it's that if a pandemic with a high fatality rate ever breaks out we're completely fecked.

Thankfully, anything like that will kill its host off too efficiently to spread.
 
No idea if it's meant to be sarcasm or not but the reality is that it is very likely that there are pathogens that have been frozen for millenia that humans have no defense or treatment against

Why would these pathogens have only existed in currently frozen areas and not anywhere else where humans would have already interacted with them?
 
Why would these pathogens have only existed in currently frozen areas and not anywhere else where humans would have already interacted with them?
Because most of the permafrost existed before humans were around, the oldest known permafrost is around 650-700K years old which is about twice as long as humans
 
Because most of the permafrost existed before humans were around, the oldest known permafrost is around 650-700K years old which is about twice as long as humans

Thanks, but wouldn’t at least some of it have melted between that time and thus exposed to humans later?

And do the icebergs that are currently melting pose the same risk?
 
Thanks, but wouldn’t at least some of it have melted between that time and thus exposed to humans later?

And do the icebergs that are currently melting pose the same risk?
Probably some areas have but we're tallking about areas that are now starting to melt in places that have been frozen since before man existed.

Icebergs are not as old, but there would be potential in the far distant future for that to be possibly an issue as Antartica ice core samples have come in at more than a million years old, won't be for 100's if not 1000's of years way though