SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

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I'm 6' 3" and weigh a bit over 13 stone, but I certainly don't look "painfully thin".
 
Not the worst analogy. General public more likely to get behind rhetoric to be honest than anything else.
The worst part for me is the "I had it" part. Cameron did the same where he would mention the work the NHS did for his family and how grateful he was whilst his party were dismantling it.
 
Italy surprises me. If I lived there I'd definitely be obese, my god their food is so good.


It is weird, yeah! All those carbs and the size of the meals / emphasis on frequent, elongated family meals etc! A weird one for me is Malta, i was supposed to arrive there yesterday on holiday but they cancelled my flights weeks back, as the country is in lockdown. They've had less than 10 deaths overall. But are supposedly extremely overweight?!


The worst part for me is the "I had it" part. Cameron did the same where he would mention the work the NHS did for his family and how grateful he was whilst his party were dismantling it.


Yeah that was my first thought when he got it. I didn't disbelieve that he was sick, I just knew that would basically be his impenetrable armour protecting him from any kind of criticism around his handling of the situation. He's basically bulletproof now, the fortune that bloke has is incredible really. One of the luckiest PM's/leaders I can remember.
 
350 is today's death toll, 329 (England), 13 (Scotland) and 8 (Wales). No number for NI.

Lowest in ages. But obviously, it's the Monday report so will be lower as usual, expecting a jump again tomorrow.....hopefully not as big as last week's. Would be good if we could continue to report lower lows and lower highs each week, as seems to be the trend (albeit very small differences).

Yeah you learn the little quirks being on this thread I find. Not being too excited about a Monday death toll being low. What was the number of deaths last Monday out of interest mate?
 
Depends what they mean by overweight though. If the Uk is reporting based off the NHS graph then I would be deemed “overweight” yet I workout 5x a week and eat a healthy, plant and fish based diet, medium T-shirt and 34 waist. I am 6ft 0 and 14st 5lbs (93kg). My maximum weight to fall in the healthy range is 13st 3 and I have been that weight before and was painfully thin. That was during my low body fat chasing phase where I was trying to get down to Pro athlete level fat ranges.

If you think you looked "painfully thin" as a 6ft tall, 13st man then you could do with meeting some actual skinny people as it sounds like your perception is a bit off. A lot of people are hella skinnier than that.
 
Promising then. Numbers will go up during the week but hopefully reduction of 100 deaths every week from where we were 7 days ago will be start of signficant drop.


That is more or less, what's been happening, give or take. Since 'Good/Horrendous Friday' our Friday number has been roughly 80-100 less than the one before or something like that. Our lowest figure each week has been lower, too.

I really like the idea of weekly figures, as someone said yesterday. I think that'd give a better idea of what we're looking at.
 
Problem with stats 73% of hospital cases are overweight is UK is classed as 65-75% of adults overweight. France's stat of 83% if true should point to something which you'd expect.
 
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That is more or less, what's been happening, give or take. Since 'Good/Horrendous Friday' our Friday number has been roughly 80-100 less than the one before or something like that. Our lowest figure each week has been lower, too.

I really like the idea of weekly figures, as someone said yesterday. I think that'd give a better idea of what we're looking at.

The problem is always at the end of the week. You see figures of 700 odd and sort of lose heart and feels pointless to check on the figure 7 days before when it might've been 850-900 deaths. So progress but feels stupid to do a little fist pump when 700 + people are losing their lives to this awful virus.

Eventually we will get there. We're past the peak now anyway but it will be a long plateau as we're seeing in Italy and Spain.
 
Bodyfat percentage. Problem is, all of them have their own problems with repeatability. I think DEXA scan is the most reliable but even then things like water/salt consumption can mess with the results I think.

I think you're better off just looking in the mirror. If you don't have a protruding belly and/or man-boobs you're probably okay.

Even that isn't perfect. I know there is a difference with cholesterol and fat build up etc. but to some extent your heart doesn't care if it's pumping blood around 50kg of extra muscle or 50kg of extra fat, it's still extra work it has to do.



I would love to see the spread of those US figures. Every time i go there i'm shocked by how many people look like they're either Under Armor endorsed professional athletes, or so fat they're about to fall through the floor. There is no in between.
 
The problem is always at the end of the week. You see figures of 700 odd and sort of lose heart and feels pointless to check on the figure 7 days before when it might've been 850-900 deaths. So progress but feels stupid to do a little fist pump when 700 + people are losing their lives to this awful virus.

Eventually we will get there. We're past the peak now anyway but it will be a long plateau as we're seeing in Italy and Spain.


Agree. I also think this is another way weekly figures would help with morale. A lot of people are probably going up, down, up, down with these daily figures to the point where it must be mentally affecting a lot of people. One figure each week to focus on would be more helpful I think especially because that figure is highly likely to decrease each week (fingers crossed). A long plateau, yeah, agreed.
 
This has popped up a few times on my twitter feed today

From seemingly fine to passing away within 10 days :(




His last few Tweets are so painfully sad to read now. May he rest in peace.
 
This has popped up a few times on my twitter feed today

From seemingly fine to passing away within 10 days :(





Was it heart related? Seeing a lot of that with people on the mend, still some uncertainty if it attacks the heart or most likely through cytokine storm and organ damage.

Really sad news. Gone well before his time with a baby and girlfriend left behind.
 
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The daily death toll looks like it could be the lowest of the month so far, right? Hoping to see a nice downward trend this week but concerned about what midweek will bring, as usual.
 
The daily death toll looks like it could be the lowest of the month so far, right? Hoping to see a nice downward trend this week but concerned about what midweek will bring, as usual.

Yes it could be the lowest since March 31st, we also have two mondays in the past month at ~440 with huge numbers either side so lets be cautious. This being the fifth week of lockdown should start to show a lower trend, maybe in the 400-600 range.
 
Yes it could be the lowest since March 31st, we also have two mondays in the past month at ~440 with huge numbers either side so lets be cautious. This being the fifth week of lockdown should start to show a lower trend, maybe in the 400-600 range.


Yeah, I'm expecting a leap tomorrow but anything less than 750-800 would be a drop from the same time last week. I doubt it unfortunately, I still expect to see a couple of huge figures this week.
 
Yeah, I'm expecting a leap tomorrow but anything less than 750-800 would be a drop from the same time last week. I doubt it unfortunately, I still expect to see a couple of huge figures this week.
I'm expecting ~370 reported today (for Sunday) and ~700 tomorrow. A lot of uncertainty but it will be that kind of jump.
It doesn't feel good 'forecasting' deaths in any direction..
 
It really is time BMI was replaced with a better indicator. My perfect weight is about 75kg, I'd barely have the strength to stand if i actually was that.

It serves the purpose it was designed for.

How tall are you? Someone could be 6ft+ and be great at 75kg.
 
If you think you looked "painfully thin" as a 6ft tall, 13st man then you could do with meeting some actual skinny people as it sounds like your perception is a bit off. A lot of people are hella skinnier than that.

People have no idea about weight. At all.
 
I'm expecting ~370 reported today (for Sunday) and ~700 tomorrow. A lot of uncertainty but it will be that kind of jump.
It doesn't feel good 'forecasting' deaths in any direction..


Same. That would still be an improvement on last week though, which we will all take at this moment.
 
It serves the purpose it was designed for.

How tall are you? Someone could be 6ft+ and be great at 75kg.

6'2". Some people would be ok but i have a big frame, I haven't been anywhere near 75kg since i was in my early teens.
 
6'2". Some people would be ok but i have a big frame, I haven't been anywhere near 75kg since i was in my early teens.

Take a look at Middleweight boxers. They’re ripped to shit, 6ft plus and weighing 70-75kg.

When people say they would be (or have felt like they were) ‘wasting away and tired’ at a low weight that’s not a product of the weight. It’s due to incorrect fuelling, over exertion and lack of adjustment.

My weight has ranged from 65kg to 85kg as an adult male. 5ft 8in. I’ve felt insanely great at both ends of that scale. I’ve also felt like dogs hit at somewhere near both ends.
 
Take a look at Middleweight boxers. They’re ripped to shit, 6ft plus and weighing 70-75kg.

When people say they would be (or have felt like they were) ‘wasting away and tired’ at a low weight that’s not a product of the weight. It’s due to incorrect fuelling, over exertion and lack of adjustment.

My weight has ranged from 65kg to 85kg as an adult male. 5ft 8in. I’ve felt insanely great at both ends of that scale. I’ve also felt like dogs hit at somewhere near both ends.

So are heavyweights.

I've played sport at levels that allowed me access to training and weight management programs. 75kg is not a weight i could ever get to and maintain comfortably. Some people are just different.
 
The whole COVID-conspiracy theory (i.e. exaggeration and cover-ups) is gaining tremendous traction in South Africa... Is this perception common in the rest of the world?
 
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Take a look at Middleweight boxers. They’re ripped to shit, 6ft plus and weighing 70-75kg.

When people say they would be (or have felt like they were) ‘wasting away and tired’ at a low weight that’s not a product of the weight. It’s due to incorrect fuelling, over exertion and lack of adjustment.

My weight has ranged from 65kg to 85kg as an adult male. 5ft 8in. I’ve felt insanely great at both ends of that scale. I’ve also felt like dogs hit at somewhere near both ends.

Thinking about a boxers fighting weight is a pretty terrible way of working out ‘normal’ height to weight ratios. You can add on several kg just by replacing the fluid they lost before the weigh-in.
 
UK hospital deaths up 360 since yesterday, numbers in hospital continuing to decline
 
Well, he did have it and does no better than most. Also do you think Cameron wasn't grateful to the NHS?
When he was asked to comment on his party's treatment of the NHS every question time he wouldn't give an answer and would instead just say he was grateful because of such and such. It was his go-to response which, yes, is bullshit and, yes, does show that he really didn't give much of a shit about the NHS.
 
Something i haven't seen since February, one of the provinces in Lombardy has posted no new infections for today. Not mine, but still. They probably had to make a new graphic for it :lol:
 
So are heavyweights.

I've played sport at levels that allowed me access to training and weight management programs. 75kg is not a weight i could ever get to and maintain comfortably. Some people are just different.

Heavyweights are never as lean as controlled weights. They just find their sweet spot, weight wise, and roll with it.

Certainly not going to be the dick on the internet that tells you that you don’t know how you feel. I know naff all about you.

But the huge majority of people have no concept of what weight sees them at their peak output, sport by sport though. Again, 100% not suggesting it’s you, but most of that majority is trapped by dogma, not science, when it comes to what their ‘Healthy weight’ is.
 
Despite his inability to blink Hancock has been okay in some of his more recent showings, seems to come across a bit more empathetic in tone and message.

He just clearly threw in that the PM had promised 250k as a feck you to those briefing against him
 
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I’m calling bollox on that. I’m 6’ 2” and exactly 13 stone. I’m definitely not “painfully thin”. Maybe when I was in my teens. When I was about 2 stone lighter.
It depends on the person though. I am quite muscular and have wide shoulders, a big arse (that won’t be small even with zero fat) and chicken legs. 13 stone for me, even though I’m 2ins shorter than you, shows my ribs, hip bones and more veins which again on me, does look painfully thin.
other people can carry a slim, thin look much better. I’m not one of them.

My point is, BMI in 2020 is redundant so if over 70% are considered overweight on that scale, then it doesn’t tell us much!