Only problem is they have to use disinfectant rather then lube!
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
- Thread starter Don't Kill Bill
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I like his theory that previous infection with other coronaviruses (e.g. one that causes common cold) might give some sort of immunity. It’s obvious but I always assumed research on MERS etc had ruled it out. Would be amazing news if true.
It's an opinion poll, not a vote. There's no reason people you actually know should have been asked.
Not that this means you can't take it with a pinch of salt. That just isn't a good reason to do so.
They don't get involved in wars, they let people dodge taxes, lederhosen. God I hate Switzerland.
We do too. When we drive through we make sure we don't spend a cent and we only stop to let the dogs wee. It's bad enough having to pay 36.5 euros for the blasted vignette, but that's unavoidable.
Boris Johnson: ‘many people will be looking at our apparent success"
Hmmmm.
Hmmmm.
Actually I think it was one of the main theories at the beginning why kids are more immune. The theory is that they were exposed more often to corona virus like common cold at school
Christ i wish we had one of the sensible world leaders during this rather than this panto prime minister.
No detail all bluster and pointless metaphors. To say that we're "winning phase one" is something Trump would say.
No detail all bluster and pointless metaphors. To say that we're "winning phase one" is something Trump would say.
I didn't even bother with it, I don't see the point of this - there's a daily briefing at 5pm today, surely having Boris reappear at that would have been the most apt thing to do. Instead the public are now treated to the exact same, repeated information twice in one day instead of once. It's good that he's back, I hate the bloke but don't wish ill on him and the country needs it's PM right now even if just in a symbolic sense. But there's no need for two public addresses in the same day.
I thought that was a good speech to be fair and more of a holding statement. He's just got back to work last night. As much as I'm no Tory there's night and day between Trump and Boris as leaders. Any fool can see that.
Well, a lot of the Tory plays are straight out of the Trump handbook, disinformation, telling lies, social media campaigns and distraction techniques.
the country should have known what they were voting for the day BJ decided to hide in a freezer rather than deal with the media
.....and threatened to have a TV station removed from the air for making fun of him.
Yep. Listening to his piece today, you would think we've made a terrific success of everything.
We all have though so I'd be suprised if that was it.
I understand the mental pressure this has on elderly individuals or people isolated on their own, but teenagers / people in their 20s / 30s who live with friends / family endlessly complaining of boredom is frustrating.
I understand where @Volumiza is coming from - some people need to acknowledge that a level of self-sacrifice is hugely important and their mild-inconvenience in the short term is far outweighed by the needs of the collective community.
Sure this doesn't account of pressures of people worrying about bills / providing for their family. But some people actually have it relatively cushy right now, but still endlessly moan of boredom. The whole "woe is me" attitude is ridiculous and people don't say anything because of a perceived impact on mental health. I do worry though that this meandering to all actually risks covering up genuine pleas for help from those that are genuinely suffering and are at the edge of reason - which is tragic.
I hope so. My fear is that it doesn't give any immunity but does give a positive antibody test. No evidence, just an idea I hope isn't true.
A whole load of nothing from Boris again.
No, I get that I really do, but from our living room windows we could see lots of people out for a jolly over the weekend without thinking of the impact they could be having on the people who actually live here.
A person who’s decided they can’t cope and goes about their normal business by ignoring lockdown and social distancing is then very likely to do that while compromising the person who wants to do what has been recommended.
Like the people in the village that obviously weren’t concerned about keeping their 2m space between me and them at the expense of me wanting to keep 2m space between me and them.
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This is a bit worrying? (I can't copy and paste as I think it'll screw up the embedded Tweets). Basically children presenting with covid related symptoms, in apparently growing numbers. Not necessarily Covid 19, maybe a different pathogen.
This is a bit worrying? (I can't copy and paste as I think it'll screw up the embedded Tweets). Basically children presenting with covid related symptoms, in apparently growing numbers. Not necessarily Covid 19, maybe a different pathogen.
TrueIt was the coming back out again that was the problem
This is why we shouldn't rush to end lockdown - we don't know this disease well enough and it is going to potentially mutate if we keep exposing it to new hosts. We need to get to New zealand levels of new cases before we start to consider opening schools / relaxing lockdown.
Really worrying if it’s true.
I don't understand any of that stuff about this kid's disease but it sounds very scary. Perhaps one of our resident medical professionals can explain it for us @Pogue Mahone @Arruda @Anustart89
Surely children presenting with “covid related symptoms “ that don’t have covid 19 are just kids with colds/flu?
EDIT: Never mind. Read the article now. Feck. Me
There have been babies in hospital that have survived covid19 so it's not completely 'new' news, is it, that children can get sick with this?
What would be the implication of this being completely new developments, that the virus is mutating or has mutated?
What would be the implication of this being completely new developments, that the virus is mutating or has mutated?
"There is little information about how widespread the condition is but the number of children affected is likely to be small, the HSJ reports. Some of the children have tested positive for Covid-19, and some appear to have previously had the virus, it adds."
The bolded part is the most concerning one. This virus is still extremely new, we're only scratching the surface of what effect(s) this has on you - and so far we only know about the short term effects. What would be worrying is that, if it causes other long term complications to those who recover or even stay asymptomatic during their initial infection.
Of if it’s reinfection which presents this way. Which would obviously be a complete disaster.
Re long term effects after infection one we already know about is hypercoagulabiliy. Forming clots inside the body, which can cause a stroke. I wonder if this kids thing is part of the same picture. Or completely unrelated and driven by the immune system. Feck knows. Grim news to start the week anyway.
Yeah I'm chalking that news on kids as bullshit with my head firmly in the sand until it's more widely substantiated.
It’s 100% legit. Shared with medic friends and a paediatrician said she’s already seen some cases in her hospital in Dublin. Still possible it’s unrelated to covid, mind you. Also, we have no idea re numbers. Could be (hopefully is!) an extremely rare complication.
I think it's the latter, but it's a serious matter so the urgent message has been circulated in case doctors assume that because it's a kid, they should be fine. Belt and braces approach I reckon.
I didn't know about this, but that sounds horrific. Do you know how common it is and how easy it is to diagnose?
Sounds like it could mean an entire generation spending their lives on blood thinning medication if it is widespread (well if they get diagnosed with it)
I don’t think anyone thinks it’s a permanent consequence. Just a lingering effect which persists for several weeks/months after infection. No idea how common it is and it’s not easy to diagnose. It’s usually only discovered when someone turns up with a clot.
I do wonder if it will end up requiring all confirmed cases go on a short course of blood thinners when they’re discharged. We’re nowhere near that stage yet though.
It's not totally new. Children have been showing up with weird inflammations and rashes in Europe for a few weeks now. As the virus spreads through the English speaking world and they start to see the same, these articles are going to find the way into the press.
I would guess it's also becoming more common as the disease spreads through the population. It might not be that the virus is transforming.
Indeed they have.
https://www.ejpd.com/images/nuova-vasculite-covid-ENG.pdf
Kawasakis involves extensive vasculitis, so I presume these kids ending up in ITU are going through a similar type of disease process to “Covid Toes”. Except as well as purple digits, they’re getting vascular lesions in more critical organs.
Also. To put things in context. It’s not unusual for certain specialties to raise a flag about a cluster of weird cases. And it often amounts to nothing.
The paediatric intensive care society put this out today so obviously there might be worries
One of the paediatricians I was talking to mentioned apparently only 5-10 cases that prompted the worries in the UK so far with a few case reports here and there from other countries. The understanding so far by the paeds consultant I spoke to was that these cases could actually be children with other conditions who may have happened to be COVID19 positive, and that the primary insult is the other condition e.g. GpA sepsis , meningitis etc of which they have been unfortunately presenting late, due to the stay at home message being adhered to by parents.
Crucially nothing from Royal College of Paediatrics and child health so far, its a bit vague and understandably concerning (I've got a one year old daughter too who I haven't seen since lockdown started) but awaiting a formal announcement from RCPCH would be prudent. I know this has been picked up from a lot of media outlets so expecting some clarification pretty soon.
Never thought I’d think it -
Thank feck for warfarin
Thank feck for warfarin