SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

I was thinking maybe a drink beforehand where you could take one for the Cafe and explain to me why the 99 team was so great. With fists if necessary. I'm sure you'd even get paid for it. :p
Would be up for that but no can do this eve :)
 
So 18k is a drop in the ocean out of 66 million. Lets not play it down and see how the next few weeks go. Fingers crossed it's not too bad.

18k were tested. 17885 were perfectly fine. Of the 115 who tested positive.....99% of them will recover after a few days to a week.
 
18k were tested. 17885 were perfectly fine. Of the 115 who tested positive.....99% of them will recover after a few days to a week.

Not contesting that. My point was obviously there's going to be far more cases than 115.
 
Another 700 here today for a total of almost 4000. I'm pretty much resigned to it being totally out of control now, there are commuter towns with hundreds of cases and people still freely moving about. The initial government response was commendable but theyve done feck all since.
 
It hitting Canary Wharf are a nightmare for spreading, especially if it is surviving on surfaces for 2-9 hours, there's like 5 million people who use the tube every day, plus all of those on the DLR, plus, loads of people connect to national rail to the home counties. I think this HSBC infection could be a new super spreader
 
The person who died from it had no travel in or out of the UK either which is worrying.
 
It hitting Canary Wharf are a nightmare for spreading, especially if it is surviving on surfaces for 2-9 hours, there's like 5 million people who use the tube every day, plus all of those on the DLR, plus, loads of people connect to national rail to the home counties. I think this HSBC infection could be a new super spreader

Yep. London is the worst place that the outbreak could happen the with the amount of commuters there are going from one end of the country to the other.
 
If you get it are you self quarantined for 2 weeks or is that only if you are suspected of having it? I think i have a greater fear of being stuck in a hospital for 2 weeks than the virus itself
 
The whole world is not taking this disease very seriously. Lots of talk but very little action. People still casually flying around the world for skiing holidays like nothing's going on. STOP GOING TO ITALY/CHINA/IRAN/KOREA you numbshits.

It almost seems like governments and health organisations want it to spread around.

Unbelievable that the WHO still won't rate it as a pandemic.
 
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I looked up stats for Flu deaths in 18/19 season : 16400
So far, in what, 2 1/2 months, which must be more than a 1/3 of the flu season this year, and Corona has accounted for 3000 deaths apparently. I wonder what flu has accounted for so far?
 
BBC just said half of the UK cases are being allowed to recover at home.

Meaning the other half are treated in hospital.

WTF? I thought symptoms were in most cases mild.

Are there any statistics for how often people require hospitalisation?
 
Tutor in our work said their kid came home from skiing and one of the kids was really sick and told to isolate and not get tested

Seemed to think cus her kid got swabbed they'll be fine..

Wouldn't be surprised if it's from one of those trips, they all shared planes back as far as I can tell

Edit - told not to go to the hospital I'm sure they were tested someway
Said tutor now sent home today with sore throat, feeling like shit and sweating it out...
 
Are there any statistics for how often people require hospitalisation?

My impression is that it was around 20%.

Bear in mind that some may be in the hospital just because there is local capacity for it, the first few cases tend to be a bit "priviliged" in that regard. If there are isolation rooms they may be kept there until more urgent cases need them. What I mean is that from those being "treated" in the hospital, a few may just be quarantined. Just a guess.
 
The person who died from it had no travel in or out of the UK either which is worrying.

That person was old and had been in and out of hospital with all sorts of ailments prior to getting the virus it's been confirmed.
 
My impression is that it was around 20%.

Bear in mind that some may be in the hospital just because there is local capacity for it, the first few cases tend to be a bit "priviliged" in that regard. If there are isolation rooms they may be kept there until more urgent cases need them. What I mean is that from those being "treated" in the hospital, a few may just be quarantined. Just a guess.

That would make sense actually. If the virus goes 'mainstream' here and the UK ends up with cases into the thousands, I'd have thought the advice to the infected will be to stay home and isolate.

Presumably those 20% of cases that become serious are the elderly and immune compromised
 
BBC just said half of the UK cases are being allowed to recover at home.

Meaning the other half are treated in hospital.

WTF? I thought symptoms were in most cases mild.

Are there any statistics for how often people require hospitalisation?

UK from what i read was working off plans for 15% needing hospitalisation and 20% of those ICU needed.

It wouldn't surprise me if currently they're encouraging people to stay in hospital whilst they've got the space to avoid spread.
 
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And this is why the numbers will increase, I bet in every country there's an example like this

Coronavirus patient ignored self-isolation order to go to business event


https://nypost.com/2020/03/04/coron...XPYjnSVoPFMB-YlbnbR1J3WBwqzYZCxxqCFQF5Ow96G40

New Hampshire’s first coronavirus patient shrugged off his quarantine and went to an event in a different state — potentially exposing almost 200 people to the deadly illness, officials revealed.

The dimwit Dartmouth-Hitchcock Medical Center staffer showed symptoms of the virus after returning from a trip to Italy, and was told to stay home while awaiting test results — which came back positive Monday, state health officials said.

But three days earlier, he had ignored the instructions and gone to a party over the border in Vermont, officials said.

“Despite having been directed to self-isolate, [he] attended an invitation-only private event on Friday,” the New Hampshire Department of Health and Human Services said in a statement.

About 175 people were at the bash, organized by Dartmouth’s Tuck School of Business and held at The Engine Room in White River Junction, right across the river from the New Hampshire hospital.

“It’s very disturbing to be honest,” Brandon Fox, the owner and manager of The Engine Room told The Post. “He made a really bad decision.”

Health officials from both states said they had tracked down the attendees of Friday’s event and were monitoring some of them for symptoms, though they are “considered to be at low risk for infection.”

But the patient is believed to have already infected at least one other man — also a Dartmouth-Hitchcock Medical Center employee, officials said. The hospital said both men had no contact with patients.

An order of isolation has now been issued to the egocentric first patient under a state public health law to make sure he doesn’t break the quarantine again.

If he leaves the lockdown now, officials will be able to send police after him to keep him put.

But New Hampshire health officials didn’t respond to questions about if or how they were monitoring his self-quarantine this time around.

Meanwhile, Fox’s event space has been sanitized — twice — and health officials said events could continue.

But he said he still decided to scrap the next three planned shindigs because fears are running rampant.
 
People aren't being cautious enough at all.
Right?

Look I'm not particularly worried about the whole virus thing in the grand scheme of it, but after I initially heard her story the other week I told them they need to cut down on the unnecessary traffic in offices, no paper assignments etc

Now we're in a completely avoidable situation where someone potential with the virus has been teaching multiple groups of students across multiple courses in multiple rooms. All completely dismissed

When someone on your kids flight home from a hot zone (and has been with them for a week) is very sick with something what more reason do you need to be a bit more careful

Head spins...
 
And this is why the numbers will increase, I bet in every country there's an example like this

Coronavirus patient ignored self-isolation order to go to business event


https://nypost.com/2020/03/04/coron...XPYjnSVoPFMB-YlbnbR1J3WBwqzYZCxxqCFQF5Ow96G40

Yep. There's numerous stories in this thread of posters knowing of people acknowledging that they're potentially Ill but not isolating themselves. That's just this forum, so imagine how many cases there are.
 
So estimate the total number of deaths in the UK to this thing this year?...

100k is my guess. :(
 
I'm hoping that your analogy falls down when you consider population density. Although I'll admit that I haven't the foggiest how densely populated Wuhan is. You should also consider that for all that the European authorities have been dithering and sitting on their hands, they're still a hell of a lot more prepared than China was, when the epidemic really kicked off there. They must have had months and months of completely uninterrupted spread before they realised what they were dealing with. Plus Chinese people fecking constantly spit all over the place...
I think you might be right here. My family doctor told me the other day that she's been away to China in November travelling the country up and down with the group (15 people).

While there she along with the whole group would have suffered from symptoms which now pretty much describe coronavirus. Her’s case was very severe as she tried several different antibiotic courses which did not help at all. She would only recover after coming back (not sure if she would have tested positive at that point if that was coronavirus).

Family members that traveled with her and had the same disease have gone off to Scotland (where they live). Very curious if that could have been the same Coronavirus they discovered later.
 
So estimate the total number of deaths in the UK to this thing this year?...

100k is my guess. :(
100k is dramatic.

There's been 150 deaths in Italy and if you times it by 12 you'll get 1800.

You'd need 8333 deaths a month to reach 100k in a year. If the virus kills 3. 5% of sufferers you would need 235,000 sufferers. China has reached 80k but has slowed down its growth.
 
UK from what i read was working off plans for 15% needing hospitalisation and 20% of those ICU needed.

It wouldn't surprise me if currently they're encouraging people to stay in hospital whilst they've got the space to avoid spread.

I wonder if hospitals will start putting up makeshift isolation areas for the infected. No specific treatment, just a place for the sick to stay out of society's way
 
I wonder if hospitals will start putting up makeshift isolation areas for the infected. No specific treatment, just a place for the sick to stay out of society's way

No. Certainly not in the developed world.