Trump also said some people can go to work with the virus without problems. Great advice from the commander in chief.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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Trump also said some people can go to work with the virus without problems. Great advice from the commander in chief.
Am just down the road from you so interested to hear what happens!It's on the 10th floor. We're all a little panicky. I'm quite a few floors above so thankfully don't share the same lifts as those folk. I'm taking my laptop and going home. Feck this shit.
It's probably just flu rather than coronavirus but I hope they fire that guy or girl for coming in and costing the bank thousands on cleaning. How fecking selfish can you get when we're all given clear emails what to do when feeling ill. Stay at fecking home!!
Most definitely. If he wasn't ignoring the issue, his statement is hardly wrong. And yeah, I reckon there are plenty (1000s) of people not being tested. Plus, South Korea demonstrates a below 1% mortality.
Been confirmed officially internally here. Unfortunately it wasn't today, the person had reported results to the bosses on the weekend. That means we've been at risk last week and most of this. Great.
The UK is in a different stage of this to Italy obviously, but the goal once there is sustained community transmission is not to isolate all cases and try to totally eliminate every transmission. We know that is not possible and contact tracing etc becomes a waste of time. Health services move to a model that aims to eliminate only the high probability transmission cases (ie those with symptoms) and contain hotspot areas. The aim is to reduce the transmission rates below 1 rather than eliminate them completely.
Seen people arguing in stores about bulk buying and how selfish it is
Imagine being a simpleton like myself who's been advocating isolations for almost a month now. Something our government fails to see. This was obvious. Lets just hope it didn't spread too much.
Why do people think we're going to starve? China went into complete lockdown yet no one was reported to die of hunger.
@Dumbstar - have they actually confirmed coronavirus?
Fell really sorry for those that didn't vote for him. Hard to have much sympathy for those that did...People are getting a bit hysterical over this & some of the media reporting isn’t helping the situation. Unfortunately it looks like there will be a spike in infections over the coming weeks, but unless I’m mistaken, the guidance is that the majority of people (80%?) will suffer “mild” symptoms which hopefully means they don’t need hospital treatment. It seems the worst case scenario has been deemed the default position & there’s panic everywhere.
I know this isn’t flu & the possible ramifications are worse than flu, but there should be some common sense applied. Simple things such as limiting interaction with others who may be showing symptoms (or self isolate if you’re unwell), limit using public transport & washing hands as much as possible would probably help significantly more than panic buying & absolutely locking yourself away from society.
Apparently here people think they are going to shit more. Costco can't keep loo roll in stock. Pallets disappear in less than 10 minutes!
When aliens discover our planet after the apocalypse their scientists will remark how clean our anuses were.
"We sold out of toilet paper yesterday, which hasn’t happened at our Costco in 30 years. It was a horrible day to work and I am dreading work today.”
This one is better...
I was sent to a Costco to see if people are stocking up (even though health officials say it’s not necessary) in case COVID-19 gets more serious here. This guy came out of the store with 16 boxes of condoms and a big jar of coconut oil. We all have priorities.
I was sent to a Costco to see if people are stocking up (even though health officials say it’s not necessary) in case COVID-19 gets more serious here. This guy came out of the store with 16 boxes of condoms and a big jar of coconut oil. We all have priorities.
Never figured this out vis a vis bog rolls running out. Who started the rumour about having constant diarrhoea? Some dark web shit? I have never read any reports about people dehydrating and dying from over-pooping.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/t...g-ready-for-a-coronavirus-outbreak-2020-03-02
Some of the pictures. People are quite dumb.
Some of the pictures. People are quite dumb.
Two kisses on the cheeks are the norm here, everyone kisses everyone else. They get really close to you, too. Government says "no kissing, no hugging, no handshakes, stand at least a metre away from the other person." This is a major culture change for the locals.
Having said that, the old men were all sitting on the benches around the fountain this morning. They usually sit outside the little bar, but I see the proprietor has taken the tables and chairs away.
Given the lack of preparedness by the US government, maybe this will turn out to be not so dumb in the end.
Christ i know the Tories are more than happy for poor people to die but i didn't expect Johnson to argue there's a case to just take it on the chin and let this spread. The people actually impacted by this are his voter base after all.
That's not good - curious to see if any other firms will take preventative measures?
Even if that were correct (the number requiring some kind of hospitalization is more like 50%), if it spreads to even 10% of the UK population, that's 1.5 million hospital beds required. We have 170,000...
Some of the hysteria is unwarranted and I doubt it will reach even 1% of the population, but the UK really should take this more seriously than it currently is.
Are you serious? Did he actually say that? If he did say that; then he needs to be held responsible for the eventual catastrophe that will occur.
Oh. It will come there. And be far worse due to lower average physical health of each person.
Same as with surgical operation; The better condition a patient is in, the more likely he is to survive or recuperate from an operation.
Chinese cities with coal plants have a large number of inhabitants with bad lungs --> lower physical health --> Most likely to have a higher rate compared to the UK and most of Europe.
Yemen: Starved for some time now by Saudi Arabia. Significantly higher mortality rate compared to Italy. Health infrastructure has been bombed. Could get really bad.
In general: the countries with the lowest average degree of physical health also are likely to have the worst health system, it is not a good picture.
Some of the Scandinavian countries will just connect their most affected patients to a CPB(lung machine) and take them off when their lungs have recuperated (the only problem is that when you are allowing a number of flights from Northern Italy to land over the past weeks in these countries, then there will be an explosion of people in need of CPBs). And only the people with really bad physical health(Those that would have been in danger from the seasonal flu) are likely to be in any major danger. Hopefully, people won't panic and divide the medical resources away from those that are in actual mortal danger from the virus, despite the media trying to scare everyone into a frenzy.
There are lies, damned lies and statistics and there's the Daily Mail.
Can understand why the UK citizens are taking it less seriously than other countries there. Only the US to some extent is comparable to the UK and the people there never overreact.
Anyway this was a dig at the Daily Mail. Not at the broader point that the UK probably needs to do more in which I tend to agree. Fact that we aren't encouraging people to work from home, travel less and close schools for a couple of weeks is bemusing.
My conceptualization takes form.
An analogy:
- Europe is China
- Italy is Wuhan
- London, Madrid, Paris, etc, are just Xanghai, Beijing, Honk Kong
Events almost overlap, about 6 weeks later in Europe than China.
Why wasn't this fecking obvious to everyone from the start? (including me)
We think of Europe as several countries, when epidemiologically it is just one big country. We just missed the forest by focusing on the trees.
My Doomsday scenario: We will be hit a lot harder
- We didn't quarantine Italy (neither they did it there) with nearly the same speed or effectiveness that the Chinese did in Wuhan
- Our other major cities did nothing, even the slightest prevention measures (football games, masses), unlike Beijing, Xanghai, Hong Kong
We're fecked. In a matter of days, not weeks.
Acting way behind the pace of information.
An analogy:
- Europe is China
- Italy is Wuhan
- London, Madrid, Paris, etc, are just Xanghai, Beijing, Honk Kong
Events almost overlap, about 6 weeks later in Europe than China.
Why wasn't this fecking obvious to everyone from the start? (including me)
We think of Europe as several countries, when epidemiologically it is just one big country. We just missed the forest by focusing on the trees.
My Doomsday scenario: We will be hit a lot harder
- We didn't quarantine Italy (neither they did it there) with nearly the same speed or effectiveness that the Chinese did in Wuhan
- Our other major cities did nothing, even the slightest prevention measures (football games, masses), unlike Beijing, Xanghai, Hong Kong
We're fecked. In a matter of days, not weeks.
Acting way behind the pace of information.
I feel like those crazy scientists in the beggining movies like Armageddon that no one listens to.
Some studies mentioning that the virus could potentially attach itself to surfaces for as long as 9 days. Some say 72 hours. WHO say just 2 hours. There's still a lot of unknown.
I was fazed enough to decide against ordering a pizza last night
There are lies, damned lies and statistics and there's the Daily Mail.
Can understand why the UK citizens are taking it less seriously than other countries there. Only the US to some extent is comparable to the UK and the people there never overreact.
Anyway this was a dig at the Daily Mail. Not at the broader point that the UK probably needs to do more in which I tend to agree. Fact that we aren't encouraging people to work from home, travel less and close schools for a couple of weeks is bemusing.
I think we're almost at that point. We had 13 cases almost a week ago. We're now at 92 - if it grows at the same rate, we could have 650 cases next week.
More than likely. No doubt there will be masses out there unknowingly infected already.
The Netherlands has more than doubled in the last day too. Even more concerning there's 900 Dutch kids waiting to come home from Italy apparently.
The media really are loving this.
Possibly - so far we have tested a number of people so theres a small chance we might still have it under control. I actually can't wait for todays case release -_-
Apparently the fecktards went away this weekend.