Even if PM's life is hanging by a thread? Last chance saloon?
Yeah. If they are saving someones life then not so much but if you have a minute.Bollocks. Are you seriously suggesting that healthcare professionals should stop what they're doing to inform a non-relative of his condition, just because he's a little curious and he happens to call himself a friend of his? Do we know if he'd have wanted that? Where do you draw the line? Should they stop to answer questions if Macron calls? Merkel? Löfven? Putin? Xi? His neighbour? The cleaning lady?
There are channels for that info and IMO none of them should be Trump calling straight into the ICU. Give the poor man some fecking privacy in his critical illness for feck's sake.
Now, I really think Trump's full of shit and he hasn't done any of that, but anyway.
We are talking about Trump. Protocol goes out the window.The President of the USA is not allowed to call anyone and especially any foreign leader without the proper protocol. Neither is a foreign leader allowed to answer it without the correct protocol.
We are talking about Trump. Protocol goes out the window.
Laura K saying the word is Boris hasn't needed a ventilator yet but was moved to ICU in case he needs one overnight.
We tested men’s vs women’s restrooms for bacteria for a biology lab when I was in college. The women’s in every building on campus were dirtier than the men’s.Enlighten us. I know there was some nasty stuff happening in the girls' bathroom in high school (used tampons in the toilet paper holder and such stuff). But in general I refuse to believe that women are anywhere near as careless as men when it comes to washing hands etc.
I don't think you fully understand the point here. The consequences of the solution they wanted to opt for was easy to see from day one given the development in other countries, and it was piss easy to point out the obvious mistakes as well...And the poster you're quoting has been consistently wrong on the subject of covid-19
Feck me, who would want to do something evil to hospitals in a time like this...Hackers are targeting hospitals crippled by coronavirus
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/coronavirus-hackers-cybercrime-phishing
love how everyone is a genius armchair scientific advisor... after the fact. If it was ‘easy to see’ from day one (ie before the Italy numbers) then why did the chief scientific officer fail to see it? Is he that inept? The fact is there were and are a number of potential tactics in dealing with this. Looking back then yes the government got it wrong in, once the data from Italy was fed in, but they at least then changed their tactic immediately. They were working on the numbers in their modelling and making decisions on that basis. But the inevitable failings as a result of that initial bad data go far beyond Boris Johnson. You think he was making those decisions himself? To lump all the blame on Boris is just agenda driven nonsense. And I’m a labour supporter ffs
Here in USA no one is using hydroxychloroquine as far as I am aware. Probably because chloroquine is not easily available here.
On a related note:
Feck me, who would want to do something evil to hospitals in a time like this...
Fullfact
Like the previous generations of wireless network technology (4G, 3G and 2G), 5G mobile data is transmitted over radio waves.
Radio waves are a small part of a wider electromagnetic spectrum of waves, which all emit energy called electromagnetic radiation. Radio waves are found at the low-frequency end of the spectrum and—alongside microwaves, visible light and heat—only produce non-ionising radiation. This means that these waves cannot damage the DNA inside cells, which is how waves with higher frequencies (such as x-rays, gamma rays and ultraviolet light) are thought to cause cancer.
I think a lot are using it. Just that in the USA it is known with its brand name as Plaquenil.
Agreed. But how is that Boris's fault?Ultimately, having inadequate experts and civil servants dealing with the problem is a responsibility that can only lie at the feet of the government that's been in power for the last 10 years and which was famously tired of experts.
Welcome to the world we live in. Sometimes I question myself how some people can be so evil! Shouldn’t there be an identity check for making a profile on Facebook, twitter etc.?Some of the replies in that are sickening. It really doesn't matter if you think he's a cnut or not. The guy is a human being with a baby on the way ffs.
Agreed. But how is that Boris's fault?
Feck manJohnson has had severe pneumonia in the past, and I think he had a heart issue too.
Neither of which bode well for him now.
Well there s kind of a conflicted message if I've ever read one.Feck man
I am not british, nor i like his politics but i feel really terrible. I really hope he fight the hell out of this virus. Come on Borris, there’s your dream waiting for you .... an independent British Nation. Just pull through this. Get well soon.
He got a mandate from British Nation for a certain thing. Now that he got the opportunity, he got life threatening sickness. I hope he gets better soon. Maybe this is clear for you.Well there s kind of a conflicted message if I've ever read one.
You do know China is the 2nd biggest super power in the world(And possibly the biggest in a few decades) and also has nukes(Thankfully). Also as we all know there is no more islamic terroism in todays world because the west did such a great job!There should be a real trail of China for putting world under serious health and economic crises. This is the second time a lethal virus has originated from the same place. Not only this, but deliberately hiding it from the world, falsifying the facts about the disease and punishing the very doctor who tried to warn the world. When 9-11 happened, the world got United against radicalism and collectively chased the roots. Clamped down hard on the financial and other support for any potential breeding ground. Why it should be any difficult to take action against something that has caused a million times worse damage?
So you think if some country is powerful it shouldn’t be made accountable?You do know China is the 2nd biggest super power in the world(And possibly the biggest in a few decades) and also has nukes(Thankfully). Also as we all know there is no more islamic terroism in todays world because the west did such a great job!
It's been mentioned before but it's telling how deep the war on terror has being burnt into our brains that whenever a crisis hits the west it's the first thing people jump to.
9/11 was an intentional act of terrorism, there is no evidence that this virus was engineered by man and spread intentionally, so nothing will happen. It's just mudslinging and conspiracy theories so far.So you think if some country is powerful it shouldn’t be made accountable?
And you suggest this crises is any lesser than the “war on terror”?
World post Covid-19 will never be the same just like post 9-11.
Not following conspiracies, this is the second lethal virus originated from the same place!9/11 was an intentional act of terrorism, there is no evidence that this virus was engineered by man and spread intentionally, so nothing will happen. It's just mudslinging and conspiracy theories so far.
I don't know how it is in England but in Sweden, we don't have arterial cannulas in most 'regular' non-ICU wards. Arterial cannulas allow for easy and repeated blood sampling which would reveal a deterioration that is not seen on the monitor where you typically just see heart rate, oxygen saturation and blood pressure.
It also allows us to see the blood pressure with every single heartbeat which can allow for blood pressure increasing medications to be introduced earlier (even though there is no real evidence that arterial blood pressure monitoring improves outcomes).
Plus, being in an ICU where all intubation equipment is located obviously makes an intubation smoother than doing an emergency intubation in a ward outside the ICU (and safer from a patient POV and in terms of spreading it to those in the vicinity).
It will be a precaution but he's the PM. He will have every piece of equipment he could possibly need on standby.
I think they need to review their policies on handling and consumption of exotic wildlife. The only reason this is being made into a big fuss is because US and China are locked in a trade war.Not following conspiracies, this is the second lethal virus originated from the same place!
What will you say about that?
Johnson wasn't PM until a couple of months ago. His cabinet weren't the ones that shat on the NHS. He listened to his own nation's medical advisors, which as per your original point were put into position by the previous administration. His political advisor is a cnut, but that doesn't mean he himself deserves to die for it.Because he's been an important part of the government for 10 years? And it was his crazy eugenicist advisor who said "and if a few old people die, too bad"? And he's highly culpable in the shitting on experts game they've been playing for a few years now? But apart from that, what have the Johnsons ever done for us?
Again China is the 2nd largest super power in the world and has nuclear weapons. China is a vital cog in global capitalism. It's not a failed state like Iraq. Funny enough if you really wanted to treat this covid19 crisis as similar to 9/11 the end result would be the west going to war with country that had nothing to with the original outbreak.So you think if some country is powerful it shouldn’t be made accountable?
And you suggest this crises is any lesser than the “war on terror”?
World post Covid-19 will never be the same just like post 9-11.
I agree. Whenever the World comes out of this crisis it will immediately face the next crisis of getting back to whatever our new normal will be and every man, woman and dog will be in some sort of debt, countries will be in massive debt.There should be a real trail of China for putting world under serious health and economic crises. This is the second time a lethal virus has originated from the same place. Not only this, but deliberately hiding it from the world, falsifying the facts about the disease and punishing the very doctor who tried to warn the world.
When does Making accountable has become similar to waging war ?Again China is the 2nd largest super power in the world and has nuclear weapons. China is a vital cog in global capitalism. It's not a failed state like Iraq. Funny enough if you really wanted to treat this covid19 crisis as similar to 9/11 the end result would be the west going to war with country that had nothing to with the original outbreak.
Also as mentioned already the outbreak of Covid19 wasn't a deliberate act of terroism but an accident involving wet markets, yet you're suggesting going to war with a centralised nuclear world power which has a population of over billion people, basically causing ww3 and nuclear mega death because of this.
Yeah I get it I miss football as well but let's not risk turning the world into a giant dust bowl.
Johnson wasn't PM until a couple of months ago. His cabinet weren't the ones that shat on the NHS. He listened to his own nation's medical advisors, which as per your original point were put into position by the previous administration. His political advisor is a cnut, but that doesn't mean he himself deserves to die for it.
So far HIS administration has;
Listened to government advisors
Change tactic when it turned out the information was false
Put economic policies in place to protect millions of people in the UK
You keep saying "they" as if they = Boris. If Cummings was the one in ICU, or Osborne or Lansley, Hunt or Cameron I would give less of a shit than I do about Boris, which is already very little to begin with. But that's all irrelevant. Proclaiming that you want someone to suffer because they've made other people suffer makes you just as much of a cnut* as they are. Perhaps even moreso because they can at least try and hide behind a sense of ignorance to the situation.
*Not calling you specifically a cnut, I'm making a general statement**
**I like cake
So why are you using 9/11 as an example ?When does Making accountable has become similar to waging war ?
I asked for the world to be united so there isn’t an incident like that in the future. Wars are never the solution, they bring more chaos.
