What’s the logic in splitting by gender?
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
- Thread starter Don't Kill Bill
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What’s the logic in splitting by gender?
I assume he's leading the way by insisting that those in his own party take pay cuts and calling for the Tory party's millionaire/billionaire backers to contribute some of their vast wealth?
I've kept well away from discussing maybes about all of this, I've tried to keep clear of all the stats and figures and all that, so I'm not one to be dramatic and share whispers lightly.
But when you hear if from someone on the front line...well you share. When medical staff are being told the hard truth about who they can save and who they have to blatantly let die...I have nothing but total love and respect for these guys. Sadly, after all of this, we'll go back to taking them for granted all over the world.
Husband and wife teams are working around the 1 person per house by standing behind each other in a queue and then joining back up when they get inside the supermarket.
I had a mission to the supermarket today and some idiot family decided to bring their granny in a wheelchair too.
I see, cheers. Granny thing is madness, got to be a lack of education.
On another topic, thought Barney nailed it here.
Can you share which hospital? My neighbour is a trauma surgery nurse and she has been extremely blase about this whole thing from the off. It has really been frustrating to me because of what I've read in here and my ability to at least read data enough to be able to see that this is serious. I'd like to be able to convince her of that but I reckon she'll get dragged into it anyway and see that this is for real.
We are by Whipp's Cross Hospital.
Matt Hancock can only answer the question posed to him. It's the journalists who are the ones obsessed about footballers being paid their high salaries.
It's easy to collect in some cases but easy to avoid in others. Put it up too high and we'll have a much bigger dishonest black economy which is the last thing we need on so many levels. It's a good tax when it's at a rate people are willing to pay but go above that and it's a horrible one, as you say. Wealth taxes, income taxes, petrol taxes.
That's fecking grim. Shouldn't have had to come down to this!
The idea being you do it in a Singapore type way where there is enough testing to catch the person who goes into the supermarket before they get there. If you don't catch them you tandem it with contact tracing so you would be found as somebody who had contact with that person and warned you needed to go into isolation.
The latter would be seen as a problem with human rights here though as it involved an app on your phone using GPS to track your movements and warn you if you had been in contact with a person who tested positive. It's worked crazily well there though.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-34775980
In case anyone fancies a short trip down memory lane when the tories were screwing over the same doctors who are trying to save peoples lives now.
In case anyone fancies a short trip down memory lane when the tories were screwing over the same doctors who are trying to save peoples lives now.
Why are Italy still getting 5000 ish cases a day almost 4 weeks into lockdown?
Surely by now that should have dropped off a cliff?
Surely by now that should have dropped off a cliff?
True, but when has "the little guy" never taken the brunt of problems?
As another poster pointed out, we had 17.5% vat before the crisis, and I bet everyone thought it would go back to that after a certain period of time - but nope, stuck at 20% and I'm guessing if we do go to 25/30% then we'll never see it reduce.
People pinning their hope on the big companies finally paying their fair share will be sadly disappointed, I dont mind paying for what I get (I'll be getting about £1200 a month during my furlough so £3600 in total - paid at the end of June) so it would be nice of the government tallied what everyone got and just spread that over the next 5-10 years worth of tax instead of blanket tax everyone, that way the NHS staff and other key workers wont be shafted (again).
Took over a couple of months to get to half a million cases.
Took a week for the next half a million.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
Took a week for the next half a million.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
Seems like much of Italy is infected and the numbers are just going to keep going
That's the frightening thing about exponential growth.
Feck.
.Thinking of the people of France but fear that we are not far behind you.
Kin ell, so lockdown is working, not working or just as it seems everywhere right now, impossible to say as we just have no idea how infected all of Europe was on the 9th March 2020?
I can’t get my head around the numbers still coming out of Italy so long after such strict measures were put into place.
28.5%. You are technically right.
They're at the peak, it should decrease from next week. The numbers will remain more or less stable. The same thing will happen with Spain soon.
It would be much worse without lockdown.
No, today it's 471 but we now have the amount of none hospitalized people that died in care homes since the beginning of the epidemy which is 884.
I actually misread. Thought it said from 79 to 356. My bad!
I'm sure I heard a report last week that said the North calming down (relatively) but rest of country picking up. So, total country's figures stil! rising
Thank feck, sorry if alarmed anybody
Lockdowns were too late imho. As we’ve seen from the spring break model, infected travel far and wide very quickly. The fact that people were still flying here there and everywhere, going on cruises, holidays, sporting events.. it’s just everywhere. Europe totally underestimated it
I hear you on the ”peak” thing, but an explaination if possible... where are these new cases catching the virus 3.5 weeks after full lockdown?
Is there something I’m missing?
We're trying to get to the situation where infection rate levels off. This thing needs to plateau before it can start to drop and when it drops it wont be off a cliff.
No doubt about that, we massively underestimated it.
So many lessons will be learned when this is over.
Before they initiated the lockdown in the north, a large number of people went down to the towns where they grew up in the south because "m'uh rights!".
I still don't get how Turkey didn't get the virus earlier. Istanbul airport is fecking big and I don't understand how it would spread sooner in Italy than in Istanbul for example?
For comparision, Malpensa airport in Milano had 28 mil passangers last year, Ataturk Airport had 68 mil in 2018.
Same can be said for USA though.
Can you answer the question above yours?
Are we saying that people are getting infected in the home from already infected house mates or?
I'm guessing that it has to do with it starting in the north and everyone escaping to the south when the government started talking about lockdowns.
So the south is a few weeks behind the north and also poorer, so it might end up even worse there although you'd hope lessons were learnt from the north.
Well you have thousands of people that caught it during the handful of the days prior to the lockdown, these people aren't necessarily living alone or totally isolated, so between the incubation period and the first symptoms they most likely contaminated a handful of people who are only going to show signs this week and next.
So people took it from the North to the South 3.5 weeks ago and are infecting family & housemates on lockdown?
The majority of people don't live on their own they live in a family unit.
Secondly manufacturing didn't close down until last week so people were still going in to work in an environment where it was impossible for them to keep a 2m distance. That's still happening here.
That’s been my worry all along. I just think it’ll find a way to keep getting past on this bastard.