Rashford was just on BBC Breakfast talking about his charity work to get school meal replacements to kids. He came across really well.
Good lad.
Good lad.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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Man that is scary stuff
'Early signs' spread slowing down in UK
Today Programme
BBC Radio 4
The spread of coronavirus in the UK is showing "early signs" of slowing down since the lockdown, according to a leading government adviser.
Strict measures came into place across the country a week ago.
Prof Neil Ferguson, from Imperial College London, says some indicators, such as the numbers of new hospital admissions per day, suggest the spread does "appear to be slowing down a little bit".
He told the BBC's Today programme that the numbers hadn't "plateaued" yet and were still increasing each day, "but the rate of that increase has slowed".
However, he added that this pattern hadn't been reflected in the number of deaths - but these usually lagged a long way behind.
Today Programme
BBC Radio 4
The spread of coronavirus in the UK is showing "early signs" of slowing down since the lockdown, according to a leading government adviser.
Strict measures came into place across the country a week ago.
Prof Neil Ferguson, from Imperial College London, says some indicators, such as the numbers of new hospital admissions per day, suggest the spread does "appear to be slowing down a little bit".
He told the BBC's Today programme that the numbers hadn't "plateaued" yet and were still increasing each day, "but the rate of that increase has slowed".
However, he added that this pattern hadn't been reflected in the number of deaths - but these usually lagged a long way behind.
They cite the daily mail but you lose any hope for humanity if this continues: https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/h...9/news-story/104a81601ff7b94fec6dae3e158ad0a1
We all know nothing significant will happen to Fox News.
Compared to the US with their fragmented healthcare system and obesity problems? I can't see it being much better.
This is the trade-off - your rights as an individual to privacy, versus the government's responsibilities to stop a pandemic by any means possible.
If you tried that in the USA, there would be mass protests. In other countries, there's more trust in the government and willingness to sublimate individual liberty for the common good.
Of course (from a human rights point of view), once this kind of surveillance is in place it's always more likely that it'll be continued when there isn't a pandemic, which most people would find unacceptable. Too much like Big Brother.
Anyone know if there is somewhere we can see total UK deaths daily (not just coronavirus cases).
Which country? It's something that is/will happen all over the world, but it's still useful to have a sense of where we're looking at right now.
Penna answered what I meant for "white text". I don't believe remotely that is a good idea. They are trying shit loads of new technology, specially tracking and detection with that excuse, and be sure they will use it or publicly or privately or legal or ilegal or everything at the same time
Average around 1600 in 2018
https://www.ined.fr/en/everything_a...developed-countries/population-births-deaths/
Belgium.
I found that very informative. I then compare that with the tripe coming from the US......
Just to put it into perspective, 279 18-24 year-olds died on Britain's roads in 2018. I'll be surprised if more 18-24 year-olds die from COVID-19 this calendar year. Provided you follow the government guidance, I'd suggest that if you are young and healthy being overly concerned about COVID-19 is an irrational fear. Are you "shite scared" every time you go for a drive? No, because you take all the necessary precautions to minimise the risk likelihood and then accept the residual risk that remains. As with driving, you have a lot of agency in reducing the likelihood you catch the coronavirus.
Young, healthy people are exactly those who we need to help out their communities with selfless actions taken with the requisite precautions. A bit of nuance is required in describing the risks to people. Trying to put the fear of God in people is a little irresponsible.
Seen on Twitter something about the UK lockdown going on until June?
Has this been confirmed?
Has this been confirmed?
Don't think so, BBC news usually pretty up to date. My mate just messaged me about it too but he always talks out his arse.
I don't get how gloves help, for example benefits of food shopping with gloves and without gloves. You can't contract the coronavirus through your hands. Surely the important thing is just very thoroughly sanitising your hands once you are done with your business outside, and never touching your face or eating until you are done.
Wearing a FFP3 mask correctly fitted helps with that too. I'm cycling masks and leaving them 4-5 weeks between uses. I'm assuming my car interior and door handle is no longer a safe space and my phone, wallet and keys aren't until they have been cleaned. Any clothes I go to the shops in are immediately laundered when I come home.
Hopefully the video will enlighten me.
Medical woman on news said it yesterday and it could be anything upto 6 months.
Will drive people up the wall being inside for 6 months.
How long do we expect to be in lockdown?
Taken from Italy, where lockdown was gradually tightened to the whole county between 8 and 10 March, and then on 20 March tightened even further to exclude all non essential outdoor movement. The highest number of cases was reached 13 days after 8 March, and 22 days later the government is finally saying whilst we are still right at the peak, there is a downward trend emerging, especially in hard hit areas that took the lockdown seriously from day 1.
China hit their peak almost 6 weeks ago and are only now emerging from restrictions in badly hit areas. Their downward trend was also slower than the initial growth (ignore that one day where they changed the testing criteria).
I'd say based on that, Italian restrictions won't be relaxed until May and the UK is a couple of weeks behind, at least.
Taken from Italy, where lockdown was gradually tightened to the whole county between 8 and 10 March, and then on 20 March tightened even further to exclude all non essential outdoor movement. The highest number of cases was reached 13 days after 8 March, and 22 days later the government is finally saying whilst we are still right at the peak, there is a downward trend emerging, especially in hard hit areas that took the lockdown seriously from day 1.
China hit their peak almost 6 weeks ago and are only now emerging from restrictions in badly hit areas. Their downward trend was also slower than the initial growth (ignore that one day where they changed the testing criteria).
I'd say based on that, Italian restrictions won't be relaxed until May and the UK is a couple of weeks behind, at least.
Big businesses around the world are the absolute scum of the earth, but if I was given this story and had to pick the one country I thought this happened in, my first guess would always be America.
No, the shares have bottomed out!
It's about touching surfaces then touching your face, not the virus going through your skin.
Without carrying hand sanitizer, I wear gloves, it can help remind you, as I stated clearly, to not touch your face. It can also prevent me cross contaminating my car and having to wipe it down. I've not seen hand santizer available anywhere and use soap and water at home. I use gloves outside for clearly stated reasons. Masks can help train you too as he says.
Watch the video.
The Deputy CMO said it in the briefing yesterday, but it was framed more like a warning than it being an announcement. Either way they're going to review it at Easter and then decide from there, but from what she said, we're looking at, at least the next three months of the current restrictions.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-last-six-months-deputy-chief-medical-officer
I am Nigerian so will use Nigeria as an example. We have wet markets(live animals) not to the extent of the Chinese who sell live wild animals. Ours are mainly cattle and chicken. I cannot imagine a situation where Nigeria no longer has any wet markets. It's ingrained in the culture. Some people just refuse to buy any meat that is dead. To ensure it is fresh, they buy it live.
I don't k ow what motivates the Chinese.
Please...please take them to court.
Don't think she said full lockdown for six months, but the measures to some extent could be here till then.
I can't imagine complete social distancing will be a thing for the entirety, at some point groups of 2-3 meeting up will be permitted as some sort of middle ground.
It's pretty much the exotic animals that are the problem. From snakes to bats, deer, pangolins etc.
Fair enough. I am watching the video now and feel reassured that it chimes with my current understanding.
I have plenty of hand sanitiser for outside and enough masks. I have zero suitable gloves though!
Never seen those in Nigeria. Just the usual, cattle, chicken, turkey and pigs.
5 min walk from Mulhuddart village
Are you in ireland?
really poor choice by the carer there. Have the company not spoken to them about staying out of the care home if they have any symptoms?
If it is Covid-19 it’ll spread quickly throughout that care home
Probably not the right place to ask, but does anyone know if a BlueLightCard is acceptable to get in to the supermarkets in NHS hour?
I use single use gloves when I go to buy food. Only so that when I am finished, I take of the gloves and throw them in a bin, and if I then forget myself and touch my eyes (which is an old habbit of mine) then I at least do not have anything on my hands. Other than that, little use for the gloves.
Here in Norway nobody have been able to buy personal PPE or hand sanitizer since this began, it was hoarded in one day and we produce so little ourselves, having outsourced so much of our industries. I think it would have made a huge difference if people could actually get their hands on protective equipment.
For me the only risk is when I go to the supermarket, otherwise many healthcare workers aming my relatives so I do not see my sister or brother etc.
When it comes to the Covid-19 not being airborne. Yes, not airborne. BUT.. it is kind of borne on air. Studys have earlier showed that air in closed small compartments like toilets etc, where an infected has been can be contagious, also that other cases can appear where covid-19 aerosols can be blown up and into the air, from for example a toilet being flushed or other different scenarios. Of course hospitals have the worst of these scenarios with all the respirator equipment and infected patients, but I do think one should be really careful in small shops with air circulation keeping the air moving, or small compartments like small toilet rooms at gas stations and shops.
When it comes to shopping, we all know Covid-19 can survive for a long time on plastic, and most foodproducts are packed in plastic so disinfecting those, especially when living in a really conatimated area, should be done imo. Also fruit. Some people do touch the fruits to turn them over and see if they are rotten or have marks. So I avoid fruits, if they are not packed in bags. In my local shop they now pack oranges in plastic bags to avoid this. Apples though, not, so I have stopped buying them.
I also found out that I am allergic to soap perfume
Had to buy new soap, since all the washing made my hands look like a crater I am so lucky to live in the outskirts of my town below the forrest and mountain here, so during the summer I am going to spend a lot of time in the wilderness, picking berries and mushrooms and spending a lot of time out in the wild with my son, camping in tent, fishing etc. No people to meet far out in the wilds. Just have to wait for the snow to begone and the temperatures to rise a bit
Unlikely. The question is why would you try. Any NHS employee will have an ID badge
They appear to be selling cats, dogs, pangolins and bats right there and we are still in the middle of a pandemic. The only difference being no photography allowed.
I've been wondering how long we can expect to be in lockdown recently, for me this is week 6 of home working/social distancing/isolation/whatever you want to call it, and week 4 of actual lockdown.
Taken from Italy, where lockdown was gradually tightened to the whole county between 8 and 10 March, and then on 20 March tightened even further to exclude all non essential outdoor movement. The highest number of cases was reached 13 days after 8 March, and 22 days later the government is finally saying whilst we are still right at the peak, there is a downward trend emerging, especially in hard hit areas that took the lockdown seriously from day 1.
China hit their peak almost 6 weeks ago and are only now emerging from restrictions in badly hit areas. Their downward trend was also slower than the initial growth (ignore that one day where they changed the testing criteria).
Obviously the absolute numbers are all going to be off, but as long as the testing criteria stay the same in each country, it gives a representation of the trend. These are the figures the Italians are using and the Chinese used to assess the effectiveness of the measures they had put in place.
I'd say based on the above, Italian restrictions won't be relaxed until May and the UK is a couple of weeks behind, at least.
Taken from Italy, where lockdown was gradually tightened to the whole county between 8 and 10 March, and then on 20 March tightened even further to exclude all non essential outdoor movement. The highest number of cases was reached 13 days after 8 March, and 22 days later the government is finally saying whilst we are still right at the peak, there is a downward trend emerging, especially in hard hit areas that took the lockdown seriously from day 1.
China hit their peak almost 6 weeks ago and are only now emerging from restrictions in badly hit areas. Their downward trend was also slower than the initial growth (ignore that one day where they changed the testing criteria).
Obviously the absolute numbers are all going to be off, but as long as the testing criteria stay the same in each country, it gives a representation of the trend. These are the figures the Italians are using and the Chinese used to assess the effectiveness of the measures they had put in place.
I'd say based on the above, Italian restrictions won't be relaxed until May and the UK is a couple of weeks behind, at least.
1 in 20 (approx) admitted to hospital. Which is what I said.
So, cummings has symptoms and is self isolating.
These people weren't even practicing what they preached behind closed doors.
In a sensibly run business, even a smaller one, senior management will never fly together on the same plane. This should have been approached the same way.
Johnson and hancock shouldn't have been in the same room since January.
These people weren't even practicing what they preached behind closed doors.
In a sensibly run business, even a smaller one, senior management will never fly together on the same plane. This should have been approached the same way.
Johnson and hancock shouldn't have been in the same room since January.
I think it’s going to be minimum until the end of May and realistically until the end of September. Then places like restaurants will open but with limited capacity and additional safety measures. By mid-2021 we could be back to normal with people back in stadiums and crowded pubs.I've been wondering how long we can expect to be in lockdown recently, for me this is week 6 of home working/social distancing/isolation/whatever you want to call it, and week 4 of actual lockdown.
Taken from Italy, where lockdown was gradually tightened to the whole county between 8 and 10 March, and then on 20 March tightened even further to exclude all non essential outdoor movement. The highest number of cases was reached 13 days after 8 March, and 22 days later the government is finally saying whilst we are still right at the peak, there is a downward trend emerging, especially in hard hit areas that took the lockdown seriously from day 1.
China hit their peak almost 6 weeks ago and are only now emerging from restrictions in badly hit areas. Their downward trend was also slower than the initial growth (ignore that one day where they changed the testing criteria).
Obviously the absolute numbers are all going to be off, but as long as the testing criteria stay the same in each country, it gives a representation of the trend. These are the figures the Italians are using and the Chinese used to assess the effectiveness of the measures they had put in place.
I'd say based on the above, Italian restrictions won't be relaxed until May and the UK is a couple of weeks behind, at least.