SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

I'm starting to believe a lot more people than we think have or have had this virus with little or no symptoms whatsoever.

Absolutely certain.

I know a woman who was in China for work in early Jan, came home and felt ill, but didn't think too much about it.

But now, a couple of months on, and awareness being sky high, now realises she probably had it!
 
Have to make an early trip to the shops in the morning. I've literally nothing in the fridge. Its kinda dumb not giving people a day to get their shit together before total lockdown. I'm buying a load of food. Good thing I dont eat much anyway.

But if it's serious enough to need a lockdown, they're not going to encourage everyone to storm to the shops all in one go are they? That'd ensure extra spreading.
 
What was it?
Listen. Understand. That virus is out there. It can't be reasoned with, it can't be bargained with. It doesn't feel pity of remorse or fear and it absolutely will not stop. Ever. Until you are dead.

Good choice of quote. Hopefully people stay in now.
 
I'm starting to believe a lot more people than we think have or have had this virus with little or no symptoms whatsoever.

The next few months are going to be completely defined by what is revealed when anti-body tests become widely available
 
Can you post a summary, it's unavailable to most European countries.

I cut out the most informative parts. (There were no "real pictures" of eyes like this.) :

Nurse Chelsey Earnest told CNN that as she worked with coronavirus patients at the Life Care Center in Kirkland, Wash., she began to notice that the sickest ones had a single thing in common.

“It’s something that I witnessed in all of them,” she told CNN. “They have, like ... allergy eyes. The white part of the eye is not red. It’s more like they have red eye shadow on the outside of their eyes.”

Rapid breathing and a cough were the other two hallmarks, she said.

“Several reports suggest the virus can cause conjunctivitis and possibly be transmitted by aerosol contact with conjunctiva,” the American academy of Ophtalmology said Sunday in a note to its members.

“We’ve had patients that just had the red eyes as the only symptom that we saw and go to the hospital and pass away,” she said. “I’ve even had the disaster medical control physician say, ‘Do they have the red eyes?’ And I will say yes. And he’ll say, ‘I’ll find you a bed.’ It’s just something about this, the way that it affects these patients.”
 
"Mr Varadkar says he is reluctant to use the term 'lockdown' to describe the measures.

He says they are "very restrictive" measures, and there is not much more beyond this they could do.

On the 2km radius - beyond which people cannot travel from their homes - Mr Varadkar says there will be an element of people having to comply with it, but gardaí will be available to police it"

Just say you don't have a supermarket within 2km of your house to get food?
 
I cut out the most informative parts. (There were no "real pictures" of eyes like this.) :

Nurse Chelsey Earnest told CNN that as she worked with coronavirus patients at the Life Care Center in Kirkland, Wash., she began to notice that the sickest ones had a single thing in common.

“It’s something that I witnessed in all of them,” she told CNN. “They have, like ... allergy eyes. The white part of the eye is not red. It’s more like they have red eye shadow on the outside of their eyes.”

Rapid breathing and a cough were the other two hallmarks, she said.

“Several reports suggest the virus can cause conjunctivitis and possibly be transmitted by aerosol contact with conjunctiva,” the American academy of Ophtalmology said Sunday in a note to its members.

“We’ve had patients that just had the red eyes as the only symptom that we saw and go to the hospital and pass away,” she said. “I’ve even had the disaster medical control physician say, ‘Do they have the red eyes?’ And I will say yes. And he’ll say, ‘I’ll find you a bed.’ It’s just something about this, the way that it affects these patients.”
Cheers pal
 
Yeah they probably are overworked, and it must be hard to remember to always keep a 2m distance from people over an 8+ hour shift.

From the little i've experienced it the staff in most places seem to be really professional about it all. The only problems i have seen is some customers who can't or won't get on board with it. On monday before i finished work i was in a garage with about 12-15 people all queuing 2m apart right to the front door. Then in waltzes one guy undeterred by everyone else complying with the social distancing, walks past everyone and butts in front of a lady about to be served and throws £40 on the counter and says diesel pump 6. :lol: Tosser.
:lol: Deary me. What a prick indeed.
 
Listen. Understand. That virus is out there. It can't be reasoned with, it can't be bargained with. It doesn't feel pity of remorse or fear and it absolutely will not stop. Ever. Until you are dead.

Good choice of quote. Hopefully people stay in now.
He didn’t say that, did he? That’s a piss take right..
 
America will hit insane numbers at this rate. I haven’t been following them much, have they imposed any sort of lockdown or closures?
Mostly schools/non-essentials closed. Restaurants are take out/delivery only.

Parts of the country will be able to weather it easier than others, but the places with busy airports (Atlanta, Denver, etc) will have problems and NYC, Louisiana, and Detroit (for some reason?) are fecked and their hospitals will be strained to the max if they aren‘t already.
 
"Mr Varadkar says he is reluctant to use the term 'lockdown' to describe the measures.
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Good thing I can't view it. What you've written alone nearly sent me running to the hospital.

:lol: sorry mate, I would not have written it like that if I knew you could not see the article. I found another from the sun. Not excactly the same though but quoting the same worker:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11249735/red-eyes-telltale-sign-coronavirus-nurse-warns/

I guess this does not need to be true for all infected, and there is no "study" yet, but might be an additional sign to look for if one self or others are sick.
 
"Mr Varadkar says he is reluctant to use the term 'lockdown' to describe the measures.

He says they are "very restrictive" measures, and there is not much more beyond this they could do.

On the 2km radius - beyond which people cannot travel from their homes - Mr Varadkar says there will be an element of people having to comply with it, but gardaí will be available to police it"

Just say you don't have a supermarket within 2km of your house to get food?
Thats most of rutal Ireland
 
"Mr Varadkar says he is reluctant to use the term 'lockdown' to describe the measures.

He says they are "very restrictive" measures, and there is not much more beyond this they could do.

On the 2km radius - beyond which people cannot travel from their homes - Mr Varadkar says there will be an element of people having to comply with it, but gardaí will be available to police it"

Just say you don't have a supermarket within 2km of your house to get food?

There will allowances for this I'd assume, unless they expect half the country to starve to death instead. Actually that might be a decent way to slow down the virus.
 
America will hit insane numbers at this rate. I haven’t been following them much, have they imposed any sort of lockdown or closures?
Almost everything is closed, and while people are supposed to stay home, I don't think it is as strict as in Italy for example.
 
That's seems a bit of stretch, Charles is nothing more than a pointless celebrity living off state benefits and Boris is a elected official. There's a massive difference imo. Also while it's easier to test one person than millions of Nhs workers, doesn't mean it should be the option we chose.

Now having all of that I don't think we should have tested Boris, at least not this early anyway. He did after all say we'd have to take this one on the chin. At least give him a couple of rounds against the virus.

Incorrect. Charles does not receive money from the Civil List. His income comes from the Duchy of Cornwall, an estate comprising agricultural, commercial and residential property. The Duchy also has a financial investment portfolio.
 
As the company said in a follow-up tweet, it's scandalous that a health service has to go cap in hand to a fetish company for PPE.


Yep. I wonder how many of those out 'clapping' last night voted for the party that has regimentally stripped this NHS to its bare bones over the past decade? But at least they'r doing their bit, right, out clapping in the street? Part of something. Part of a cause. Don't make me fecking laugh.

I saw a good tweet earlier, 'in germany we applaud our health service by adequately funding them' or similar. Boris out there clapping was an absolute travesty. A complete travesty.
 
I'm sure it's not going to get better soon. Thanks for keeping the peace.

No need to thank me my friend. The NHS are the real stars. We all just need to do our bit and globally we will get through this together.

feck sake. I don't know how you keep it together when you come across 'people' like that.
And do you not think that a 30 quid find is a joke of a fine. Hand down £1000 on the spot would work better imo?

The issue is people are struggling for money and is hammering them the right thing to do? It's tricky isn't it but the government need to really tighten it up as it seems rather than listen people just want to try and find ways to work around what's been said.

Seriously WTF ? Not sure how you all hold your nerve in situations like this.

You really do get to see the very best and worst of humanity.
 
Incorrect. Charles does not receive money from the Civil List. His income comes from the Duchy of Cornwall, an estate comprising agricultural, commercial and residential property. The Duchy also has a financial investment portfolio.
From 2012

Prince Charles's public funding increases by 11.8%
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18645331

Also

Prince Charles's £700m estate accused of tax avoidance

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/dec/14/prince-charles-estate-tax-avoidance

This Doctor who had just worked a 14 hour shift manages to smile in his donated scrubs
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:lol:

As the company said in a follow-up tweet, it's scandalous that a health service has to go cap in hand to a fetish company for PPE.
Can you please not make this about politics. Now dear sir go outside and clap like a seal for the NHS.

But really you're right, it's disgusting that NHS workers have to deal with stuff like this.