SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...home-testing-to-be-made-available-within-days

Some light at the end of the tunnel?

Theres (hopefully) hundreds of thousands of asymptomatic people and people who've already recovered with mild cases. Hopefully in a few weeks time we have enough people in these categories who can emerge from the lockdown situation and restart society. It would be tricky to prove you're "clean" unless we try what the Chinese did and somehow link it with an app or something.

I know for me personally, living in London I've probably been exposed to it. My flatmate had a severe flu a couple of weeks back and I'm pretty sure he coughed enough in the common areas to make sure I got it a hundred times over. However I luckily have absolutely no symptoms of the cold/flu. I found it odd because if it was a normal flu, I probably would have caught it from him.

Thank you for that it's nice to see some form of progress.
 
Seems as bad as the teens (and grownups) who are licking stuff in supermarkets in US for the kicks and tiktok videos.

No it doesn't. It's one thing to be stupid and put yourself at risk, quite another to basically assault another person for laughs.

Although the supermarket stuff is super cnutish, you can wash the products when you get home.
 
Had two electricians in today, he called me beforehand and said I had to stand in another room until they were finished for sanitation reasons.
Weird experience as am quite friendly I never even really seen what they looked like.
 
Had two electricians in today, he called me beforehand and said I had to stand in another room until they were finished for sanitation reasons.
Weird experience as am quite friendly I never even really seen what they looked like.

Hope you counted the family silver after they left!
 
It's getting pretty horrific here now in that respect. Funerals are banned and they have already been sending coffins in army convoys to crematoriums in nearby provinces because they can't cremate the bodies fast enough, and now they are starting to run out of coffins too.

That sounds awful. Sometimes you concentrate so much on the pure numbers and data and graphs, you forget about the human side of it. That's why that Tweet stopped me in my tracks.
 
Thank you for that it's nice to see some form of progress.

Yes indeed its the only thing that makes me feel optimistic. Especially because it would give a massive boost to the NHS as well. I know they've set up a volunteer service, so this would be invaluable for that, especially those coming in contact with elderly and vulnerable members of society.

It will solve a lot of problems in tracing hotspots as well. Its just a no brainer really, this should be available for every man, woman and child in the nation by the next couple of months.
 
The latest global supply shortage being urgently discussed in hospitals right now is the possibility of running out of oxygen. FFS.


Well how is it done? I wondered about 100 pages back if SCUBA shops can do it with their compressors. But I'm expecting that the oxygen contents are different.
 
Yes indeed its the only thing that makes me feel optimistic. Especially because it would give a massive boost to the NHS as well. I know they've set up a volunteer service, so this would be invaluable for that, especially those coming in contact with elderly and vulnerable members of society.

It will solve a lot of problems in tracing hotspots as well. Its just a no brainer really, this should be available for every man, woman and child in the nation by the next couple of months.

It's certainly very good news for care and NHS workers.

For the general public it's probably too soon to make much of a difference. It'll be interesting as we'll still need social distancing for a while, but if you've had it then it won't apply? You almost need some proper certification to allow you to go freely.
 
Well how is it done? I wondered about 100 pages back if SCUBA shops can do it with their compressors. But I'm expecting that the oxygen contents are different.

Your average SCUBA tank just contain compressed air. They don’t add any oxygen.

There are a few different grades of oxygen available: industrial oxygen (for welders etc) diving oxygen (for the divers at the bottom of oil rigs etc) and medical oxygen. The difference being down mainly to gas impurities, which filters can (apparently) sort out. From what I heard, we’re running low on every grade.
 
I was driving back from work earlier and there were 5 young mothers standing on a street corner surrounded by about 12 kids of different ages. I think it was outside one of their houses as the kids were running in and out of the front garden of the nearby house. We need this legislation to go through so they can be fined.
 
Not sure if there's a better thread to ask employment related question.

My employer are a private healthcare provider (care homes and behavioural schools). As our kids are considered vulnerable we have remained open. The company have just sent out a briefing outlining guidelines for different situations. The crux of these were, if you come into contact with a child in work with a confirmed case you are to carry on as normal and not self isolate. If in extreme circumstances where you may live with a high risk person they may pay for alternative accommodation for you for a week. At each point they made they made it abundantly clear that they would not be paying anyone, anything if they self isolate. That includes SSP.

Surely this would be a case for whistleblowing? The directors are endangering the lives of the staff and children as far as I'm concerned and forcing people to ignore the government's advice.

Yes, this would be a case for whistleblowing. In the US I could tell the available avenues. I’m not familiar with the UK’s protocols
 
Intensive Care nurse in her 20s from Kings College hospital where 8 people have died from coronavirus has killed herself.

Can only despair at what she’s been through in recent days/weeks.

RIP
There is going to be quite a few of these. The mental toll of all that despair and death on those who signed up to be 'normal' doctors and nurses, as opposed to those like army medics etc. who see severe trauma in battle, is going to be extreme in some cases.

Worse still is that the mental relief isn't going to come until the crisis is over.

It's a desperate, horrible situation.
 
I think we can safely say if they really do have a vaccine the rest of the world will tell them to do one.
Not quite a vaccine (yet?), more of a treatment. Supposedly it helped a 79 year old in Genoa with underlying health conditions to recover from the virus. Hopefully they are just trying to protect their limited supply from the overwhelming demand so they could do more testing, rather than doing this for profit.
 
In ireland a group of teenagers surrounded a female jogger and kept coughing at her. She happens to be a nurse. Why are teens such little scumbags?
I don’t want to go too far off topic, but this stems from going away from the era where kids (boys) fought and would verbroeit asses beat which tough them humility and respect and there were old kids who wouldn’t hesitate to smack a kid if they were disrespectful.

These days some clown either pulls out a weapon or sues.
 
Alcoholics will suffer serious consequences requiring significant medical intervention if they suddenly stop consuming alcohol. Keeping access to this stuff available is actually very considerate.
Literally my situation. I wouldn't be safe if I bought enough alcohol to last me for a week and I wouldn't be safe if I had no alcohol for two days.
 
I haven't yet mate no. Rang 111 and have been told I could be waiting up to an hour when I don't think its likely I will be getting one. Im surprised myself GP's aren't doing me one, especially seeing as me and the other person I live with are both vulnerable.

hopefully we get one over the next couple of days

My GP said he didn't know if I'd be identified, but he'd be surprised if I wasn't. Yet I know a few who have had texts and letters already. GPs seem oblivious to all thats going on, and there seems to be an infinite loop being created between GPs and 111, with both just batting back to each other.

I'd hope the vulnerable shielding letter will hold more information if each of us get one (I would have assumed asthma would be part of the criteria, given the nature of the virus!) though the PM did say after this coming Sunday would be the start of self-identification for those that slipped through the net of the governments process. I guess that might be the next port of call if you don't hear anything this week.
 
Anyone saw Bolsonaro's thoughts on this ? Dude is pleading for schools to be open and bussiness to get back to normal. Half of the people in Brazil are very angry, the other half follows him blindly.
 
Italy's new active cases down for the 4th day in a row (new cases - dead and recovered).

Total positives 5210, this figure has been hovering around 5500-6000 for about a week so probably enough to say the peak has been reached, but not that we are in decline.
 
Anyone saw Bolsonaro's thoughts on this ? Dude is pleading for schools to be open and bussiness to get back to normal. Half of the people in Brazil are very angry, the other half follows him blindly.
So like Trump then.
 
That would be absolutely despicable if true. Mind you, if it was actually the antiviral we’re all hoping for, we’d have probably known by now.

So what's their angle? That Indian company is basically producing the same medicine right? Our will it be inferior? If not it renders the US version pointless due to price.

I guess either US puts pressure on Modi to discontinue it. Or the Indian version is not allowed into the States for exclusivity reasons and you just milk the American crowd. Problem for us Brits, and the NHS, is how low BoJo goes to BJ Trump? :(
 
So what's their angle? That Indian company is basically producing the same medicine right? Our will it be inferior? If not it renders the US version pointless due to price.

I guess either US puts pressure on Modi to discontinue it. Or the Indian version is not allowed into the States for exclusivity reasons and you just milk the American crowd. Problem for us Brits, and the NHS, is how low BoJo goes to BJ Trump? :(

It’ll give Gilead exclusivity in the lucrative US market.
 
My GP said he didn't know if I'd be identified, but he'd be surprised if I wasn't. Yet I know a few who have had texts and letters already. GPs seem oblivious to all thats going on, and there seems to be an infinite loop being created between GPs and 111, with both just batting back to each other.

I'd hope the vulnerable shielding letter will hold more information if each of us get one (I would have assumed asthma would be part of the criteria, given the nature of the virus!) though the PM did say after this coming Sunday would be the start of self-identification for those that slipped through the net of the governments process. I guess that might be the next port of call if you don't hear anything this week.
I guess you've checked the overview list on:
https://www.asthma.org.uk/advice/triggers/coronavirus-covid-19/
It seems fairly specific on the drugs/dosages that mean someone's automatically in that high risk group.