SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

Kentonio said:
It’ll give Gilead exclusivity in the lucrative US market.
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For Gilead (and by that I mean Trump) to have taken this step so quickly surely means the US are preparing to roll out this medication pretty soon (weeks). Fauci will be put in a cage to only sign papers. Insurance premiums are going through the roof, and that's just for the lucky ones that have the right coverage in the first place.

The trump family are going to be so rich. So, so rich.
 
What time during the day is the number of deaths announced? I can't find anything for today.
 
Not been on for an update for a while. Have worked 90hours over the last 9 days so feeling pretty tired now but tonight is my last night and then 3 days off!

Hospital is steadily becoming more organised, many specialist wards have closed and re-opened as Covid wards now. It's incredible to see that in the current climate, how dead ED is and just goes to show how badly abused the service was. Proper guidelines regarding PPE have been updated since I last posted however, they are just saying to use surgical face masks which, I personally don't agree with. Donning and doffing the PPE is a ball ache and my hands are red raw from all the hand washing we do.

The cases are steadily ramping up now, spoke to one fot he doctors this morning who said just over half of her handover this morning was suspected covid (A very tiny % will actually be covid if any). Staff shortages is still a massive issue. On the bank service, there were 68 HCA gaps and 76 Nurse gaps to be filled for today. Unheard of but people are obvisouly self isolating or just don't want to put themselves or their family at risk.

I'm looking forward to it being my last night shift for a week and probably a free dominos delivery for us. Otherwise it's going to be depressing and hectic. Stay safe peeps.
 
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Buster15 said:
That is quite typical. Yes he comes across as stubborn. But he has probably lived his life as a father and husband who felt it his duty to be strong and not rely on anyone.

These are ingrained habits and he is trying to maintain his social standing in the family as the strong one.
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I've never really understood that. I've 2 girls who I love like you can't believe. I've been there for and supported them in all their
development, good times and bad (just like most kids) . But we've been there for each other during some horrific times the last few month. Real families share the load and support each other. I know I would have struggled without their love and support these last 6 months and vice versa and this stubborn thing (pride, selfish take your pick) men think they have to portray annoys me greatly.
My own Dad an ex para even see's the value of self isolation and even though he's bored shitless he knows the benefit.
 
Dumbstar said:
For Gilead (and by that I mean Trump) to have taken this step so quickly surely means the US are preparing to roll out this medication pretty soon (weeks). Fauci will be put in a cage to only sign papers. Insurance premiums are going through the roof, and that's just for the lucky ones that have the right coverage in the first place.

The trump family are going to be so rich. So, so rich.
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RICHESTEST PRESIDENT EVER! OBAMA POOR SO POOR. Or something like that.
 
How is it possible that we're so behind in providing our front line NHS staff with the protective equipment they need.

Did we simply leave it too late to bother trying to source or organise production?
 
Dwazza Gunnar Solskjær said:
No it doesn't. It's one thing to be stupid and put yourself at risk, quite another to basically assault another person for laughs.

Although the supermarket stuff is super cnutish, you can wash the products when you get home.
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Some vids show youths taking the lids off tubs of ice cream and giving it a lick, good luck washing that off.
 
Smores said:
How is it possible that we're so behind in providing our front line NHS staff with the protective equipment they need.

Did we simply leave it too late to bother trying to source or organise production?
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It's practically impossible to prepare for, people don't seem to realise what a one off event this really is.

Italy is currently using 3 million masks per day, and at between $25-50k each health services could hardly go buying the thousands of ventilators they now need before the event actually happens.
 
Smores said:
How is it possible that we're so behind in providing our front line NHS staff with the protective equipment they need.

Did we simply leave it too late to bother trying to source or organise production?
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What health system, which is dealing with a major outbreak, has all the equipment they need?
 
OnlyTwoDaSilvas said:
I dont have asthma, the lad I was replying to does, so I don't know anything severity or medicine for it. I'm on immunosuppressants for something else, which there's only very vague guidance on at the minute.
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Ah sorry, I saw the dialogue and got the replies the wrong way round. The only stuff I've looked at on immuno-suppressants was written in the context of arthritis treatment, because I've got a family member in that category: https://www.rheumatology.org.uk/news-policy/details/Covid19-Coronavirus-update-members
They've got a risk stratification guide (that identifies some medicines etc) and a scoring grid - but it's targeted for use by rheumatologists, though I guess some patients will be able to identify themselves from it.
 
711 said:
I'm close enough to that to understand. Look after yourself.
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I'm doing my best. Local addiction clinic has been in touch and I have a phone appointment booked for tomorrow, so i'm being looked after as best I can in the circumstances.
 
11101 said:
I will bet that in her autopsy it's found she had some unknown underlying condition. Still, sad news and RIP.
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Why? Nothing I've read says that being healthy and young makes you immune to die from this.
 
Perhaps a dumb question, but one Google couldn’t help answer.

If you have got a few FFP3 masks, would cycling them be a way to safely reuse them? For example, if I stored the mask I wore today to go to the shops for 3 weeks in a paper bag, could I wear that again in 3 weeks with there being virtually zero chance of the coronavirus being live on the mask?

I know they are intended to be disposable, but using them for a couple of hours at a time in areas that put them under a very light load (i.e. fresh or supermarket air, not a building site), is barely using the mask and is not compromising its structure.

I was surprised that there was no research into it.
 
Dumbstar said:
For Gilead (and by that I mean Trump) to have taken this step so quickly surely means the US are preparing to roll out this medication pretty soon (weeks). Fauci will be put in a cage to only sign papers. Insurance premiums are going through the roof, and that's just for the lucky ones that have the right coverage in the first place.

The trump family are going to be so rich. So, so rich.
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It’ll certainly add fuel to the conspiracy fire about the US producing this virus
 
Prometheus said:
Why? Nothing I've read says that being healthy and young makes you immune to die from this.
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It makes you unlikely to die but not impossible. When the volume of cases goes up, more and more young people will die. It gets reported now because it's quite rare, therefore you see a lot of these '30-year old dies from covid-19' reports but people will get used to this happening when there are more cases. If there are 10 million cases worldwide, and 2 million are in the 18-40 range that is technically 'safer' group, still 2,000 or so of them will die.

Every coronavirus death report in Poland right now says that 'patient had other diseases' as if it's supposed to make everyone else feel safer.
 
Munkehboi said:
Not been on for an update for a while. Have worked 90hours over the last 9 days so feeling pretty tired now but tonight is my last night and then 3 days off!

Hospital is steadily becoming more organised, many specialist wards have closed and re-opened as Covid wards now. It's incredible to see that in the current climate, how dead ED is and just goes to show how badly abused the service was. Proper guidelines regarding PPE have been updated since I last posted however, they are just saying to use surgical face masks which, I personally don't agree with. Donning and doffing the PPE is a ball ache and my hands are red raw from all the hand washing we do.

The cases are steadily ramping up now, spoke to one fot he doctors this morning who said just over half of her handover this morning was suspected covid (A very tiny % will actually be covid if any). Staff shortages is still a massive issue. On the bank service, there were 68 HCA gaps and 76 Nurse gaps to be filled for today. Unheard of but people are obvisouly self isolating or just don't want to put themselves or their family at risk.

I'm looking forward to it being my last night shift for a week and probably a free dominos delivery for us. Otherwise it's going to be depressing and hectic. Stay safe peeps.
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Thanks for your hard work. Stay safe
 
kouroux said:
Bro, I've seen people stocking 8-9 boxes of ice creams. Like wtf ? Is it really a vital thing to buy in these times ?

Also regarding the dish soap, what about this ?
http://homeorchard.ucdavis.edu/8121.pdf
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Mostly good foodsafe handling info, but I disagree with the bit about not using washing up liquid because of the risk of residue being on the food. The same logic would apply to the dishes we wash everyday and use to eat and drink from. If there was significant risk from liquid dish soap, we'd have plenty of evidence at this point. Just make sure you rise everything well.

In these times, washing them with water will not kill any viruses on the food. Soap will. The risks from residue are wholly negligible compared to the risk of handling an item contaminated with the virus and then infecting yourself.

Caveat - do not use soap meant for your dishwashing machine.
 
So Italy from Feb 20th until today have had 7503 deaths sad news indeed , lockdown kicked of 9th March deaths at that stage 463 so Italy God rest their souls have lost 7050 during lockdown.

Whole of China from the date that Wuhan went on lockdown which was the 23 January, Lockdown deaths where 23 at that stage 8th February same period of Lockdown has Italy 811 deaths from whole of China. Lose of life under lockdown 788.
Big difference between the 2. Either the Chinese got in early and controlled the spread or something else not adding up.

But the Italian lockdown seems to be having very little effect at the moment. Maybe early days but scary what is happening in Italy and unfortunately Spain.
 
Maagge said:
Given they're about a sixth of the world's population you'd expect them to be one of the most likely candidates right off the bat. Then if you account for living standards, how they might handle e.g. animals then it might be even more likely.
I don't know why it's not India though, they should be about as likely candidates.
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I see what you did there. :wenger:
 
Dwazza Gunnar Solskjær said:
Mostly good foodsafe handling info, but I disagree with the bit about not using washing up liquid because of the risk of residue being on the food. The same logic would apply to the dishes we wash everyday and use to eat and drink from. If there was significant risk from liquid dish soap, we'd have plenty of evidence at this point. Just make sure you rise everything well.

In these times, washing them with water will not kill any viruses on the food. Soap will. The risks from residue are wholly negligible compared to the risk of handling an item contaminated with the virus and then infecting yourself.

Caveat - do not use soap meant for your dishwashing machine.
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Thanks a lot doc. I will implement this now because I still wanna eat vegetables and fruits. It'd be too easy to just consume processed foods
 
kouroux said:
2 is well below 8-9 :lol: Honestly, as stupid as this may sound, I'm using the confinement as a way to lose and burn fat. Just trying to focus on a goal, it'd be so easy to let myself go and go crazy with the calories
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I’ve dropped 2.5kg since self isolating
 
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