It is a killer that is for sure.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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It is a killer that is for sure.
Yeah, but good luck expecting the average Joe to be sensible if you tell him that. Unfortunately you can't.
Government here allows going out for exercise (maximum of two people in a group), guess what happened on the first sunny day that followed? Crowds gathered in sportswear on those niche scenic places to exercise (boardwalks, parks) instead of distributing themselves through the enormous amount of low-traffic (even lower now) streets that every city has.
The Clinical Director of the biggest oncologic hospital in Portugal did that yesterday. Terrible news, but must be seen in the context that suicide in health professionals is above average always, and they could have done that for a myriad of different reasons.
Our lunatic president Bolsonaro made a surreal speech today calling for the end of the quarantine. Said covid is a little flu and not many of us will die, because we are young.
That is quite typical. Yes he comes across as stubborn. But he has probably lived his life as a father and husband who felt it his duty to be strong and not rely on anyone.
These are ingrained habits and he is trying to maintain his social standing in the family as the strong one.
Not a chance. And the greedy people who emptied out the supermarket shelves will be patting themselves on the back singing how we all came together to help each other out.feckin hell.
I desperately hope there's a public outcry to help all those in the NHS after the dust has settled. They all need support.
What these last few weeks have confirmed for me is that 35 - 40% of us are fecking idiots, super rich people and corporate profits are fecking useless and the majority conservatives continue to be a heartless pack of rabid cnuts.
People who are assuming that this will affect only very old people are just being naive. It is going to affect all.
And there are many youngsters (<40) who have different illness related to obesity, undergoing treatments of different kinds including mild cancer and all. All of them are in the so called vulnerable list.
And there are many youngsters (<40) who have different illness related to obesity, undergoing treatments of different kinds including mild cancer and all. All of them are in the so called vulnerable list.
This is the same leader who wants to burn down all of the Amazon Rainforest.
You have such a big country there, too, it's not like he's boss of the Isle of Man. How frightening to have a leader that says things like that.
Isn’t this basically the danger of this virus? It causes severe pneumonia.
I don't think anyone denies this.
Naive to say the least. Especially when there is no hospital beds to treat 23 year old Brad who thought licking toilets on spring break between ass munching was good fun during a global pandemic.
I will bet that in her autopsy it's found she had some unknown underlying condition. Still, sad news and RIP.
Even if 0.3% of people under 40 die, considering that about 99% with change make it from 20 to their 40th birthday, bar accidents and suicides which are not health related, it’s a significant risk that wasn’t there before. You basically have less than 1% chance of dying before 40 due to any illnesses right now, if coronavirus increases it by even 0.3% it’s a lot.
We probably need someone like him to drop dead with the virus for right wingers to open their eyes. Even then they will still see it as a conspiracy.
Yes, he can't force governors to do nothing because is a Federation. The States are not going to following his ideas in this case.
That would be enough to crash the mortgage/life insurance market surely? Especially if the fatality rate is higher as it is closer to 40
Yeah, at a much higher frequency and speed than that of normal flu.
Hopefully he will and good riddance.
Went for a short walk this afternoon and heard people coughing in their gardens, a jogger on the other side of road coughed once, then a cyclist breathing heavily passed by about 7 metres away at the end of the road where we'd be soon.
I think the chances are incredibly small and would expect it to dissipate but you just never know what's around the corner, a heavily breathing cyclist could pass close by behind you, it can look quiet one minute but suddenly there's joggers and cyclists sweating and breathing hard.
I think the chances are incredibly small and would expect it to dissipate but you just never know what's around the corner, a heavily breathing cyclist could pass close by behind you, it can look quiet one minute but suddenly there's joggers and cyclists sweating and breathing hard.
Which bit are you referring to of my replay? The endangering element or the SSP?
Yes, it's not exclusive to this virus, it can happen at any time without Covid-19 is my point. I think it's important for young people to take precautions and respect social distancing but I don't think that worrying about it has much value. The real danger is passing it on to someone more vulnerable.
The part I quoted from link you provided.
Absolutely disgusted by the number of cars and people out and about when I walked to the shop earlier.
Yeah pretty much. Severe viral pneumonia.
It's hard to keep up with this thread moving so quickly... has any explanation been given why Germany's deaths/cases ratio is so incredibly low?
Is it how they classify the deaths or is it that they are testing very widely and recording even people with mild symptoms? Or something else I haven't thought of?
Is it how they classify the deaths or is it that they are testing very widely and recording even people with mild symptoms? Or something else I haven't thought of?
Absolutely disgusted by the number of people walking to the shops when I when drove to one earlier.
Agreed. I have been 'social distancing' for the last two weeks and I'm not really finding it that difficult to be honest. Of course I hope I'll be able to travel to Manchester for football in October/November this year again, that I'll be able to go to a pub with mates and watch football, or that basketball will be back so I can lose my sleep to watch playoffs but the current situation is not that difficult. There is still so much to do at home, I still get to walk my dog which is at least 1.5 hours activity per day, working from home has allowed me to be much more creative and productive than I am in the office with the whole team around me and I am one of the lucky ones who is still bringing home income despite not going to my workplace which I have to appreciate. I'm really more concerned about other people than myself and will try to help wherever I can, but I've chosen to help dog shelters for now because they are extremely screwed with lack of funding and lack of donations, and government is not going to help them.
It probably didn't help that the media laboured the point so constantly that "old" people are most at risk.
A lot of people (wrongly) took that as meaning for younger people it's less of a risk, and thus not a risk really. Just like flu etc.
People are starting to get that's totally wrong now.
I think it's that wide testing from the outset has allowed them to get in front of the disease. They're finding people with milder symptoms but also those at an earlier stage which are yet to impact the number of deaths. They also have relatively shit hot coverage when it comes to ICU availability.
As a dog lover that's a shame. Might check the dog shelters round here, see if they need donations etc.
Are there any estimates how many people have had it in total in Lombardia and in italy? Are they 5%/10%/20%40% through the whole epidemia (in numbers, not time)
I'm not sure if this is a serious post or not.
They test way more than other countries. Specifically more young people and people with mild symptoms. Average age of people tested in Germany is ~45, in Italy and the UK it is ~65. Germany's death rate is therefore much more accurate. But probably still way off as the true number of infections is higher in reality.
They don't classify deaths any differently. This has been denied by officials when they were asked about it in press conferences.
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The shops were empty, people weren't going there. They were just fecking about in the park having a whale of a time.
Ok, sorry not trying to sound facetious but what are you after from them? To close down the workplace? They're a school so they should have some elements of essential work to them, especially if there are kids of essential workers.
The bit i don't think they should be promoting is that if someone has symptoms of coronavirus is that they come into work (not sure if they're saying that from their story). Equally SSP for Coronavirus specifically is agreed with the government, this is on the proviso that this company pays you directly (not freelance or self employed), they cannot hold this back from you unless they have doubts and begin an investigation, which is not going to happen given the severity.
To exercise on their own.
Not to sit on benches, not to play football, not to lie on the grass.
1 in 20 in the most vulnerable group that covid19 affects would have died within 1 year regardless of covid19. So of that 1.5 million, that's 75,000. I'm using the 1.5 million that the government sent the letter to telling them to stay in for 3 weeks.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/health-51979654
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/health-51979654