SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
- Thread starter Don't Kill Bill
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Do you mean 20,000? That's going by the 1/500 estimate that we saw weeks ago, though I reckon the odds are bigger than that in reality. In Italy at some point they were saying the 'safer group' was able to fight the disease for longer, and they saw more deaths from that group at the later stages. Iran recorded I think the deaths of at least 10 professional athletes (in the safer group), I doubt all of them had undiagnosed health problems (w.r.t. the earlier post I was replying to).
There are two ways to improve your case fatality rate: the more difficult way is to care for the at-risk patients better and earlier to reduce the change of them dying (reduce the numerator); the easier is to find more patients with the disease who are unlikely to die in the near future (increase the denominator).
German senior figures are heavily cautioning against them being the bearers of best practice in this crisis, which betrays that they feel the latter is more likely.
Nice stuff, keep it up. Lots of time to improve a few things in our lives now
Read something this week that smokers are substantially more endangered by the virus (as it attacks the respiratory system). And apparently that could be the reason a lot more men have died so far. In China, 50% of men smoke but only 2% of women. That statistic surprised me but I verified it, it's true.
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A lot of people eat their emotions, and a lot of people have a sweet tooth. Don’t be so flip about this, you coked-up cnut!
The corona virus is a reminder that we are all gonna go at some point. A lot of people try to reassure themselves that they do not belong in said "weak group" of individuals susceptible to die from covid and it's a normal process. Personally I don't focus on that because for all I know, a semi truck will run over my car tomorrow morning.
Yeah it’s given me a bit of a motivation, I’ve been following Joe Wicks workouts on YouTube and bouncing on the trampoline when the kids aren’t using it. Plus eating less food of course. Being almost out of food makes you think more about what you’re cramming in your mouth
Vids I saw were from the US, so no need to worry. their government is working tirelessly to limit their access to health care.
I don't have the stats but yeah they also said on CNN that a lot more men die from it than women. I stopped smoking a couple of weeks ago and try to focus on cardio to improve my lungs, whatever little thing that will help I guess.
To be fair, over the last couple of years I've purchased a few things from the supermarket that appear to have been opened and tampered with in the store. I check a lot of stuff now to be sure. Check your ice cream before you buy it.
Canada enforcing the Quarantine Act from midnight tonight, meaning anyone who comes into the country from abroad will be legally required to self-isolate for 14 days.
I live in South Africa so the figures I watch are to see which way I think things are going to go in my country. Our government has placed a 21 day lockdown from tomorrow at midnight so far we have just over 700 infected but their is no where to tell the real figure. We have a large population that has aids and many other problems. A government hospital system that has had very little improvement since the fall of Apartheid. God knows how many ventilators but certainly not enough. South Africa could make Italy look a walk in the park.
And it makes you realize how long you can also go without needing food. It's actually fascinating the needs and cravings we create for ourselves with certain foods.
I have replaced every junk food I used to eat on a weekly basis by oatmeal and milk. That change alone has made big changes in my transit
The world as we know it is changing forever, more than ever our health is our most precious thing to focus on and improve
Self isolated doing a bit of fishing on the rocks today, didn`t catch anything though.
You did, you just haven’t got the symptoms yet
Their measures were more effective. Their health system did not get overwhelmed unlike Italy. They built entire hospitals within 24 hours, and didn't experience any shortage of ICU equipment due to their ability to mass produce. China moved like an actual super power.
I think the spread would have happened before the lockdown but asymptomatic people spread it to more people during the lockdown. In the initial stages of the lockdown people probably weren't taking it as seriously (and therefore not distancing themselves) but have become more serious as time has progressed.
Italy appears to have reached the peak as there has been a slight decline in new cases for 4 consecutive days.
Yeah, any signs of that will have me assuming the worst now.
I live in Djibouti, much much smaller than SA (1 million people tops) and we went from 2 to 11 since yesterday, official numbers are one thing but I suspect there are a lot more sick people already and have been for a while. Chinese workers have been flowing to the country for weeks. The clueless local gvt closed down the airport on the 18th after making the announcement 2 days prior, some planes arrived on the 17th and instead of quaranting/testing the people as precaution, they let them all out.
This kinda incompetence is gonna be the death of us sadly. The local population is addicted to a drug called "khat" improved from Ethiopia and still imported to this day. This shit kills you inside and out, lower one's immune system. We regularly face malarias, chikungunya every fresh season so the local population is weak.
Unless a miracle occurs, Covid will be the death of this poor and small country
No I meant 2,000. That’s 0.1% of 2 million which I think will be about the right rate. I think all mortality rates are going to be inflated now because people can go through this with mild symptoms and not get diagnosed. It was around that in Korea as well.
20,000 would mean 1% dies. That would be very high.
Do UK, USA, Spain etc publish the region or the towns/cities of positive cases?
In SA we only specify the province and it sucks.
In SA we only specify the province and it sucks.
The UK specifies cities, the US only goes down to county level. No idea about Spain.
Yes in the UK
You can get the UK town data on The Guardian website.
Wow bloody hell, all I can say keep your hands clean and best foot forward scary times for us both me slightly less so.
Oh, yeah. I misread that. I thought the 10 million was the safer group.
Must be nice living in an efficient society. Albeit in isolation.
And to think if we just did exactly what China are doing now, without any qualms, we would have been safe from this. But we didn’t want to test/quarantine people coming from China because it would have ‘hurt our economy’. Guess what will hurt it more, locking down entire countries for what could easily be a year or more.
It's unlikely Covid-19 will be swimming upstream.
You got the link? Be interesting to see.
It's exactly the same in Germany since day 1.
I do what I can. I still have to go to work but luckily most staff stays at home so the contact will be limited
Planet Earth is crazy now. Every country basically on lockdown
Oxford University study.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.ft.com/content/5ff6469a-6dd8-11ea-89df-41bea055720b
"The new coronavirus may already have infected far more people in the UK than scientists had previously estimated — perhaps as much as half the population — according to modelling by researchers at the University of Oxford.
If the results are confirmed, they imply that fewer than one in a thousand of those infected with Covid-19 become ill enough to need hospital treatment, said Sunetra Gupta, professor of theoretical epidemiology, who led the study. The vast majority develop very mild symptoms or none at all."
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I think my little boy might have it. Hacking cough and and temperature of 38.6C.
Called 111 and we’ve got to isolate for 14 days. if his temp goes above 38.7 I’ve got to call them back.
my wife, my 8 month old and myself all have the cough but no temperature yet. Scary times
Called 111 and we’ve got to isolate for 14 days. if his temp goes above 38.7 I’ve got to call them back.
my wife, my 8 month old and myself all have the cough but no temperature yet. Scary times